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Therumancer

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erttheking said:
I have to agree, I never quite get why people get up in arms every time there's a ME3 update...or any time a game developer decides that they want their female character to actualy be pleasent to look at.
Well, with Mass Effect 3 it's easy to understand. Mass Effect was supposed to be a series of space opera RPGs, a spiritual successor to "Knights Of the Old Republic" in a unique universe given that they didn't have the Star Wars/D20 liscence to work with at the time. With Mass Effect 2 they turned it from an RPG into a shooter with cinematics and removed a lot of the depth and itemization from the game rather than improving what was there. The third game has a lot of people up in arms because it's supposed to be even more of a shooter than ME2...

Also remember Bioware slotted off a LOT of people over "Dragon Age 2" for reasons ranging from the brawler type combat as opposed to stat based RPG combat like the first one, to the re-used enviroments, to their attitude in asking for fan feedback on whether or not it was okay to remove most character generation from the game and limit Hawke to simply being human with one origin, which received an overwhelmingly negative response, followed by Bioware claiming that the fans approved... which is a great way to start a riot honestly.

After years in development, there are a lot of mixed impressions of "Old Republic Online" as well. After the amount of time spent in development and the sheer amount of hype, a lot of people expected more, even if the game wasn't perfect. The amount of content is very limited, and the endgame is more or less a joke. The biggest defenses made about it being "well many MMOs, like WoW itself, launched with less" but that really isn't a good defense when your considering that it's not up against WoW when it launched. Given the sheer amount of time under development people expected more content especially at the high end which is where most people spend their time. Right now you have a lot of people going on about how once their storyline is done there is little motivation to do anything but sit around in the fleet and wait in queues. What's more in the process of making the game approachable, it shoots out high end gear like a pez dispenser. Part of what fuels endgame players is getting gear that is difficult, or very time consuming to get, and most other players won't ever be able to obtain equivilents to... this gear being used to face increasingly difficul challenges to get even sweeter gear. The thing is that you can obtain top tier gear just by sitting around and having your companions run crafting and crew skill missions, or just zerging the PVP queue since PVP rewards are fairly generous even for the losers compared to the actual cost of high end PVP gear. You can pretty much blow through the the two major tiers of endgame gear inside of three weeks, and you don't really have to do anything.

Fanboys will of course resent the point, but do some websearches for "The Old Republic Endgame" and look at the complaints and how echoed they are accross a lot of places. It doesn't get as much attention as the positive media blitz, but it's been noticed.

The point of mentioning all of these divergent topics is that they come down to problems with Bioware and it's relationship with the fans that got it this far. "Dragon Age", the spiritual successor to "Baldur's Gate" is nothing like what it was supposed to be. "Mass Effect" the spiritual successor to the single player "Knights Of The Old Republic" games has increasingly been turned into a cinematicly driven game combining Gears Of War and maybe a simplified version of Hellgate: London.

Joining forces with EA, Bioware has become increasingly about the business aspects of reaching the biggest possible audience of casual gamers, and that has even come out in "ToR" and it's version of an endgame... which is an endgame everyone can pretty much max out, literally getting top tier gear by just sitting there and clicking buttons and watching timers count down in your crew window which if you do a search some have likened to Farmville....

Probably more of an explanation than you wanted. For those that read this far I'm not really entertaining "yeah buts" or arguements here. This isn't about me attacking Bioware personally, or daring people to defend them, it's me simply stating WHY these issues exist and why Bioware is generating so much rage which would have been unheard of a few scant years ago. Whether you agree with the reasons or not, there they are. Of course I'm condensing a lot of things that could be easily figured out with a bit of research, reading the rants and complaints themselves, and noticing the common threads and issues which go beyond what ONE fanboy is saying. These are the things that create trends because thousands upon thousands of fans share the same sentiments which fuel them to attack Bioware. With all the arguements over the last few years about Mass Effect and it's trnasformation into yet another third person shooter, and the disapproval from vast legions of fans over it (even if there are plenty who support it), it would be more surprising if Bioware *wasn't* under siege during their annoucements.
 

Jim Profit

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I do not get the joke at all. Unless it's supposed to be that she'll probably die as in every mass effect happens if you screw up at all.

Thus she'd fit right in, in that he hates them anyway... I know that's why I didn't mind losing half my team. The only ones worth a damn were Grunt, Garrus, (who supposedly is so bad ass, but in-game can't handle a strawberry schnopps.) Zaed, (which is DLC so doesn't count) Tali, and Samra.
 

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Man, reading this comic was a risk in and of it's own.

Concerning almost everything related to Mass Effect 3, I've had a major media blackout. I've been avoiding every tidbit of information related to the game because I don't want any spoilers. I got some spoilers with the first two games, and as some random deity as my witness, I'll have none of it in Mass Effect 3. I'm even missing out on the multi-player demo of it.

Hell, the only thing I've done was the Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning demo for the free ME3 Weapon and Armor. The game's not bad, but it's good enough if it's got free stuff for the upcoming game that's making every author on the planet either cringe or cry out for joy.

I'm the author who does both.

Cringe, because I'll probably never write something so grand in me life, and cry out for joy because it's one of the greatest stories ever told, perhaps on par with Tolkien, H.G. Wells, and J.K. Rowling.

But I'm thankful that this wasn't something major.

Keep up the good work, John Carter.

You've no idea how hard I'm resisting saying "You're humanity's only hope, John Carter."

But I've said it.

And now I'm happy for at least half the day.

Again, keep up the good work.

The General
 

Generalfoley

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Dude, you're a monster.

Don't take it the wrong way, because in reality you're probably a very nice person.

But in Mass Effect 2, sacrificing half of your team?

By god, that's awful. That's horrible. That's... That's just monstrous.

The point of Mass Effect wasn't in that you could sacrifice teammates you didn't like willy-fucking-nilly. The point is to connect with the characters in a way that you feel emotionally attached to them, like Shepard seems to be.

At least that's how I played it.

The fact that you played it as any other game makes it clear why you don't get the joke. It's because Shepard's choices are your choices. You're the one who's making them, you, for all intents and purposes, are Shepard.

So if you sacrificed your team, Shepard, and in turn you, are a monster.

So if you think sacrificing half of your team isn't a big deal, I'd hate to be the human race when you fight the Reapers in Mass Effect 3. Or any other sentient species, for that matter.

Because you'd kinda suck in saving us all.

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Generalfoley

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Generalfoley said:
Dude, you're a monster.

Don't take it the wrong way, because in reality you're probably a very nice person.

But in Mass Effect 2, sacrificing half of your team?

By god, that's awful. That's horrible. That's... That's just monstrous.

The point of Mass Effect wasn't in that you could sacrifice teammates you didn't like willy-fucking-nilly. The point is to connect with the characters in a way that you feel emotionally attached to them, like Shepard seems to be.

At least that's how I played it.

The fact that you played it as any other game makes it clear why you don't get the joke. It's because Shepard's choices are your choices. You're the one who's making them, you, for all intents and purposes, are Shepard.

So if you sacrificed your team, Shepard, and in turn you, are a monster.

So if you think sacrificing half of your team isn't a big deal, I'd hate to be the human race when you fight the Reapers in Mass Effect 3. Or any other sentient species, for that matter.

Because you'd kinda suck in saving us all.

The General
I meant this to reply to Jim Profit's post. Apologies.

The General
 

Aisaku

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And here I thought I was so clever figuring out the ruder joke... *shrugs* ah who cares it's Tali! Well done, you.
 

Proverbial Jon

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mysecondlife said:
Proverbial Jon said:
mysecondlife said:
I find her really pretty. But its really her voice work that matters for this game... (bioware's going to fuck up the faces anyways) and although I'm not sure she'll do a good job, its way early for me to judge.
True. I have been trying to avoid any reveals about Mass Effect 3. Mostly because after all the constant character reveals for ME2, I feel it just ruined some of the experience for me. Sadly it is hard to avoid ALL news on ME3 when I insist on frequenting this website... or the internet in general I guess.

So either way I don't mind. If she turns in a solid voice acting performance and her character is more than just simple fan bait (Did anyone actually WANT this to happen?) then I'll be happy.

We had the likes of Seth Green, Martin Sheen, Tricia Helfer, Claudia Black etc.. on board for ME2 and every one of those voice actors were used, imo, to their full potential and made for a really rich and believable world. There's no reason why that wouldn't be the case this time, despite the origins and professions of some of the contributors.

If it weren't for that stupid Liara bishoujo statue they made, Bioware would have 100% of my trust. For now they'll have to settle with about 90%.
Tricia Helfer's in it? Wow. They've gone all in on voice actresses.
Yeah, she's the voice of EDI.
 

Nuke_em_05

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Zachary Amaranth said:
I assumed, with the prior mention of fellatio that this was an indication that knocking her teeth out would improve her "service."
Souplex said:
It's either saying that Chobot isn't a real journalist so Shepard won't punch her, or that her lack of teeth will improve her fellating of handhelds.
Not sure which one though, as it can be read either way.
Glad I wasn't the only one who went there. I got the "journalist" jab as well, but I'm male so if there's a sexual interpretation, that's where my mind goes first.

I guess I prefer that interpretation anyway, considering the "Journalism" and "ME3 sell-out" conversations that have developed on page 2... to which my contribution is a solid: "meh".

Good comic as always.
 

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Undead Dragon King said:
antipunt said:
I'll admit it... I watched her get punched about 5 times before closing the vid
There's just one more I want you to watch. The best of the bunch.

Oh god.. that's just amazing, especially considering the advent of Abraham Lincoln, vampire hunter
 

TheOneMavado

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octafish said:
...I'm surprised and pleased that there is no fanboy gushing about the prospect of Tali and her chicken legs in a one-piece swimsuit. Well done everybody. Oh just checked the comic again, now I'm disappointed that Tali is drawn with human legs.
She has too many fingers as well...
 

ABLb0y

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Ilikemilkshake said:
Greyfox105 said:
I... fail to get that one >.>
I guess I'm just in daft mode after walking the dog.

Also, I'd love to see some of the submissions you've had. Hell, I might actually be smart enough to understand some of them.
I think Erin is implying Chobot isnt a real journalist, so Shep isnt going to punch her.

Anyway good strip and seeing the submissions would be pretty cool.
Really? I thought it was an oral sex joke...
 

Dumoras

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her character was soso but the way they rendered her. damn. she looked like she was wear a piece of plastic that caught fire was sanded down and then airbrush painted