Max Payne vs Mass Effect - Which is better trilogy?

[Xprimentyl]

they both are third person shooters first and foremost and part of trilogies. they are comparible.

You have to understand you can't really compare two things based on general, fundamental similarities alone, right? Steak and chocolate cake are both foods, but which is "better" requires a further refining of their unique, subjective qualities at which point a rational person will find the comparison becomes moot.

 

[Chimpzy]

just running over Geth in the Mako just makes me chuckle a certain way.

Also, Mass Effect is better.

 

[CriticalGaming]

they both are third person shooters first and foremost and part of trilogies. they are comparible.

Mass Effect isn't a strictly a shooter. . How are they comparable again?

Compare Gears of War and Max Payne then.

Compare GTA to Assassin's Creed because they are both open world.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

they both are third person shooters first and foremost and part of trilogies. they are comparible.

That's like comparing Dracula to Jacob's Ladder. "They're both horror movies!".

 

[Kae]

Guys we're all forgetting the true purpose of this thread, which is shitting on Max Payne 3!

Like seriously do you think Dan Houser thinks he did a good job because he was like, "Max is a depressed, drug addicted alcoholic ex-police and so is Denzel Washington in Man on Fire, therefore Max Payne 3 should be Man on Fire but without any likeable characters, because those require actual talent to write and I definitely don't have that!"

 

[Ezekiel]

The similarities between Max Payne 3 and Man on Fire are superficial.

 

[Kae]

The similarities between Max Payne 3 and Man on Fire are superficial.

Not really there are a lot of themes and plot points in common between the two, of course there's a ton of differences too chiefly because Max Payne 3 lasts like 7 or 8 times the runtime as Man on Fire, yet it manages to have a much worse story, it's a true achievement!

No originality whatsoever, blatant disregard of the previously established character arc for Max, being the longest Max Payne game yet being the one with the lowest amount of memorable or likeable characters, a true lesson on how to write a crappy game!

 

[Ezekiel]

Not really there are a lot of themes and plot points in common between the two, of course there's a ton of differences too chiefly because Max Payne 3 lasts like 7 or 8 times the runtime as Man on Fire, yet it manages to have a much worse story, it's a true achievement!

No originality whatsoever, blatant disregard of the previously established character arc for Max, being the longest Max Payne game yet being the one with the lowest amount of memorable or likeable characters, a true lesson on how to write a crappy game!

Superficial.

I agree that Dan Houser isn't a good writer. I'd still take Max Payne 3's tighter, more serious story over the bloated, dragged out, unfunny stories in many of his other games. I wanna say I'm glad he's gone, but I doubt it will mean any real improvement. Rockstar knows what people want, and their games always receive so much praise, which I don't really understand.

 

[Jarrito3002]

Also, Mass Effect is better.

Link is broken on my end.

But yeah Mass Effect is better just on paper it has so much more going on with it.

 

[happyninja42]

The similarities between Max Payne 3 and Man on Fire are superficial.

Burned out American with a violent past/profession, hired as a personal bodyguard for the daughter of a rich guy from South America. Daughter gets abducted by criminals and he has to go in by himself to take them out. That is the entire premise of the film and game. Also, the visual callbacks to that film are so prevalent it's not even funny. Whoever was in charge of developing the visuals for that game, was clearly a fan of that film.

 

[Ezekiel]

Burned out American with a violent past/profession, hired as a personal bodyguard for the daughter of a rich guy from South America. Daughter gets abducted by criminals and he has to go in by himself to take them out. That is the entire premise of the film and game. Also, the visual callbacks to that film are so prevalent it's not even funny. Whoever was in charge of developing the visuals for that game, was clearly a fan of that film.

Mexico is in NORTH America.

Man on Fire was about revenge. He thought she was dead and wanted to punish her kidnappers. In the end, he himself is punished for his sins. Max Payne 3 is about a man being manipulated and then trying to fix the situation by getting the women back. It ends with him winning back control, over the job as well as his personal life, and being in a better position than he was in at the start.

Like I said, superficial. Bodyguarding would be one of the first jobs I'd imagine a disgraced cop doing.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

Burned out American with a violent past/profession, hired as a personal bodyguard for the daughter of a rich guy from South America. Daughter gets abducted by criminals and he has to go in by himself to take them out. That is the entire premise of the film and game. Also, the visual callbacks to that film are so prevalent it's not even funny. Whoever was in charge of developing the visuals for that game, was clearly a fan of that film.

Also the fact that he's essentially hired as a patsy and both the cops and the family are in on it. The similarities are borderline beat-for-beat.

 

[Kae]

Mexico is in NORTH America.

Man on Fire was about revenge. He thought she was dead and wanted to punish her kidnappers. In the end, he himself is punished for his sins. Max Payne 3 is about a man being manipulated and then trying to fix the situation by getting the women back. It ends with him winning back control, over the job as well as his personal life, and being in a better position than he was in at the start.

Like I said, superficial. Bodyguarding would be one of the first jobs I'd imagine a disgraced cop doing.

While true I'm in México and I'll say it still counts, just change México city for Rio de Janeiro.

 

[Johnny Novgorod]

While true I'm in México and I'll say it still counts, just change México city for Rio de Janeiro.

I mean if we're splitting hairs we can just say both stories take place in Latin America and get it over with. Both cities are depicted the same way anyway.

 

[Trunkage]

Mexico is in NORTH America..

Ah. You’re wrong. Trump says anything south of the US is Mexico

 

[Phoenixmgs]

Guys we're all forgetting the true purpose of this thread, which is shitting on Max Payne 3!

Like seriously do you think Dan Houser thinks he did a good job because he was like, "Max is a depressed, drug addicted alcoholic ex-police and so is Denzel Washington in Man on Fire, therefore Max Payne 3 should be Man on Fire but without any likeable characters, because those require actual talent to write and I definitely don't have that!"

The style of his writing really seems that way. He has characters talking about important things/issues all the time. Every line Max says comes off as something a high school teanager would bring up to his english teacher asking "This is really awesome, right?" I don't remember the specifics of MP3's plot that well but I do remember there were all these twists for basically no reason; I think the main bad guys changed at least 2 or 3 times (even though the player couldn't care less) and then your partner was even in on it for a bit but then had your back anyways, it was such a shitshow. The entirety of MP3 really comes off as someone thinking they made this hardcore, gritty, epic cop movie but it's anything but. Dan Houser would get roasted on the level of Michael Bay by critics if he made movies instead of video games.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

they both are third person shooters first and foremost and part of trilogies. they are comparible.

If you think that Mass Effect is a 3rd person shooter first and foremost you have no idea what Mass Effect is supposed to be.

 

[09philj]

I don't even have to look at the OP to know I'm looking at a B-Cell thread, because nobody else on this forum would conceive of the idea to do a like for like comparison between two series with such radically different visions as Max Payne and Mass Effect. One, a series of action oriented third person shooters which places combat first and foremost, and the other a series of RPGs which uses third person shooting as the almost-token gameplay sections between the story sections where the creator's interests clearly lay. Mass Effect 3's gameplay is far better than the other two in the series, but I still like Mass Effect 2 more because the story is more involving,

 

[Adam Jensen]

Oh, he's serious. And you wanna know the best part? The only reason he thinks that Max Payne 3 is better than Max Payne 2 is because in Max Payne 2 there's a level where you have to play as a woman.

Anyway, another day, another braindead topic started by one and only B-Cell, who now can't differentiate between a 5h long third person shooter with only one extra feature and a fully fledged 20-50h squad-based RPG with branching storylines, leveling, upgrades, hub worlds, vehicle sections, romantic choices, morality choices, gender choices and character creator.

It would be sad if it wasn't so freakin' funny.

 

[B-cell]

Oh, he's serious. And you wanna know the best part? The only reason he thinks that Max Payne 3 is better than Max Payne 2 is because in Max Payne 2 there's a level where you have to play as a woman.

Anyway, another day, another braindead topic started by one and only B-Cell, who now can't differentiate between a 5h long third person shooter with only one extra feature and a fully fledged 20-50h squad-based RPG with branching storylines, leveling, upgrades, hub worlds, vehicle sections, romantic choices, morality choices, gender choices and character creator.

It would be sad if it wasn't so freakin' funny.

and those 5 hours are 5 epic hours and more intense than 50 hours of boring RPG games.
beside Mass effect is third person shooter with dialogue system. Mass effect 2 doesnot even have inventory.

they are more of gears of war clones.