Max Payne vs Mass Effect - Which is better trilogy?

Max Payne or Mass Effect?


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Ezekiel

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The vast majority of the Brazil sections of the game are utterly destroyed by not having subtitles. World building? Gone. Tactical advantages in combat? Gone. Details subtle and otherwise? Gone. A large amount of details of the plot? Gone.

It doesn't benefit the player, it doesn't make the game more immersive, it in fact ruins immersion, and it just annoys the player. There's no reason for it whatsoever and it provides absolutely nothing.
It annoys YOU. Your preference absolutely would hurt immersion, just as it would hurt plenty of films.

There's little strategy or variety in Max Payne 3, so I don't know what you're talking about. You're not missing anything gameplay-wise by not understanding the enemies, at least nothing that you can't already see. The enemies aren't very lifelike, and you kill them usually with the same playstyle.
 

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The problem wasn't the three choice thing as much as the fact that none of those choices made any sense whatsoever. And in fact, they went against the established rules of the Mass Effect universe. Everything about the ending was nonsensical. The fact that it was a three-choice ending was just the cherry on top, because Casey Hudson literally lied about it months before the release of the game.
The problems started further back then that. The original purpose of the Reapers, as hinted at in ME2, was going to be that Dark Energy was causing stars to age and die prematurely, threatening the universe. The reapers were going to tie into that but since the lead writer left midway through, that whole plot thread got dropped and turned into the whole "Organics vs Synthetics" thing, which they had to try to find a way to find a solution to. The fact the catalyst is also one giant Deus Ex Machina that is never really explained at all(nor how each civ can add onto something they don't understand how it works to begin with) doesn't help either.

It's where all of Sheps action were controlled by the Repears to get them to press one of the buttons at the end

Edit: Synthesis ending definitely went full BSG
You can also shoot the Space Brat and get the bad ending aka one that doesn't involve pushing a button to "win".
 

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The problems started further back then that. The original purpose of the Reapers, as hinted at in ME2, was going to be that Dark Energy was causing stars to age and die prematurely, threatening the universe. The reapers were going to tie into that but since the lead writer left midway through, that whole plot thread got dropped and turned into the whole "Organics vs Synthetics" thing, which they had to try to find a way to find a solution to.
Yeah. The original plot was a lot smarter than what we got in the end.
 

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The problem wasn't the three choice thing as much as the fact that none of those choices made any sense whatsoever. And in fact, they went against the established rules of the Mass Effect universe. Everything about the ending was nonsensical. The fact that it was a three-choice ending was just the cherry on top, because Casey Hudson literally lied about it months before the release of the game.
The 3 choices are like the 3 things that would end a synthetics vs organics war. Trunkage mentioned how the one option is straight out of BSG.
 

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Well, being completely different games, setting camera aside, i guess it comes down to whether you preffer "alright" shooting, with sprawling story and universe, or the opposite.

That being said, i'd rather replay Max Payne 1 again than ME1 for the 2nd time.

(This whole thread will also become moot, once Knack 3 comes out and claims supremacy as the best trilogy in gaming.)

Superficial.
Deliberate.

(...)gave subtitles to all the foreign language in the game it would at least be tolerable.
But those were one of the touches that i actually liked. It amps up the "stranger in a strange land" vibe.

The original purpose of the Reapers, as hinted at in ME2, was going to be that Dark Energy was causing stars to age and die prematurely, threatening the universe.
Which was also tied to the titular 'mass effect' and the usage of relays. I'm so miffed it was dropped. It was such more interesting premise than another AI vs. Organics war.
 
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