Meth junkie burns down 3,500 year old tree

[him over there]

Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.

Should we let the Empire State Building burn, should we let Auschwitz burn, should we dig up Indian burial grounds, or plug up Old Faithful? After all these are all inanimate objects/places/natural locations. The tree and those listed are both natural, and man made wonders, and the buildings all serve as a reminder, or are testament to mankind, or they're sacred to people.

I'm not saying we should purposely seek out to destroy anything, plus most of those things have symbolic emotional value, this tree is just really old. Also I wouldn't be very angry if someone did plug old Faithful.

 

[him over there]

Individuals and their day to day lives are more important than any sort of pseudo immortality history bull. Humans are the only thing on this planet with any sort of real intrinsic value and we should treasure eachother. If you disagree than you disagree I guess.

 

[ChaplainOrion]

Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.

Should we let the Empire State Building burn, should we let Auschwitz burn, should we dig up Indian burial grounds, or plug up Old Faithful? After all these are all inanimate objects/places/natural locations. The tree and those listed are both natural, and man made wonders, and the buildings all serve as a reminder, or are testament to mankind, or they're sacred to people.

I'm not saying we should purposely seek out to destroy anything, plus most of those things have symbolic emotional value, this tree is just really old. Also I wouldn't be very angry if someone did plug old Faithful.

Well besides causing some sort of ecological disaster, all that water and steam will have to go somewhere right, Old Faithful is one of our nations most prized natural landmarks.

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

Poor girl, she looks totally fucked, more like a 60+ year old than 26. Hope she finds a way to sort herself out.

 

[Amaror]

Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.

It doesn't think or feel, but it's still allive. That's not some Hippie crap, that's a fact. And since this drud addict did nothing of value in her life whatsoever and considering that this tree cleared masses of air and probably created masses of life (Other trees) then it's damn well more worth than her.

 

[Panorama]

It's such a shame something old and magnificent burned down.
...and now I'm over it.

This sums my opinion quite well, if it had been a forest or a village or something then give me a shout.

 

[him over there]

Being old isn't worth anything. The tree doesn't think or feel, let it burn. Nothing of value is lost.

It doesn't think or feel, but it's still allive. That's not some Hippie crap, that's a fact. And since this drud addict did nothing of value in her life whatsoever and considering that this tree cleared masses of air and probably created masses of life (Other trees) then it's damn well more worth than her.

Being alive without thinking or feeling is the same as not being alive at all. This whole tirade though is essentially becoming "My subjective morals and values are different to someone else's, I better prove them to him." So I'll show myself out.

 

[coolman9899]

More seriously though, it's not "some tree" that got burnt. It's an extremely old tree that's lived through countless wars among other things, that's probably contributed more than she has or ever will.

It's an addict, so its self induced. And she's so far gone I doubt help will help. That she needs help is however obvious.

The tragedy is the tree, which isn't just a random tree, but a real natural wonder.

Dude this tree is older then you... by like 116 times over, and why would they... most people would care about the tree more anyway, lol.

It's a damned tree, no matter how old it is I find it pretty fucking disgusting that people value it over a person. It's a tree it doesn't have a personality, it can't think or feel things. I'm not quite going as far as to say this story should be all about the junkie, that's not what makes it noteworthy; I just don't like how Eri has written her off completely without a thought to rehabilitation or even knowing much about them.

Dude, why are you getting worked up? I know at least 15 people that do drugs. None of them (and I've been told by them that they wouldnt give it up for the world) want the slightest bit of help (yet). Maybe she doesn't want help? Maybe she is part of the 98% of people that after rehabillitation, go right back to abusing drugs. You don't know any more than any of us. Infact none of us ever said that we dont care about her, you are bending words. Also have you been to a museum? Those artifacts in there are younger than most prized artifacts, so yeah some may say that they care about the tree(artifact) more than a single person.

 

[renegade7]

This could maybe be a Darwin Award Honorable Mention...she set fire to the tree to get a better view (of what??) WHILE INSIDE IT!

 

[Redlin5_v1legacy]

Don't blame the man, blame the evil society that forced him to take up a life of illegal activities such as drugs.

That's a woman. I was fooled too.

OT: Poor tree... That's living history destroyed forever. Well so much for that.

 

[Simalacrum]

You can get arrested for burning down a tree? /: Arson, I guess...

Well I'm pretty sure there are laws specifically for destruction of national monuments and the like...

 

[dobahci]

It's a damned tree, no matter how old it is I find it pretty fucking disgusting that people value it over a person. It's a tree it doesn't have a personality, it can't think or feel things.

Just a tree? Certainly not. Would you say that the Mayan ruins or Easter Island moai are just a bunch of rocks?

 

[him over there]

It's a damned tree, no matter how old it is I find it pretty fucking disgusting that people value it over a person. It's a tree it doesn't have a personality, it can't think or feel things.

Just a tree? Certainly not. Would you say that the Mayan ruins or Easter Island moai are just a bunch of rocks?

That isn't really an apt comparison, The mayan ruins and moai are impressive testaments to human ingenuity, the tree just happened to live a long time.

 

[cameron112497]

and the tree is an impressive testament to natural beauty, and how even parts of the past survive to the present.

Now again, what makes the tree different to the mayan ruins and moai? besides that you like the ruins more?

 

[him over there]

and the tree is an impressive testament to natural beauty, and how even parts of the past survive to the present.

Now again, what makes the tree different to the mayan ruins and moai? besides that you like the ruins more?

Natural beauty doesn't have any intrinsic value though.

 

[dobahci]

That isn't really an apt comparison, The mayan ruins and moai are impressive testaments to human ingenuity, the tree just happened to live a long time.

That's just a matter of definition though. The only real difference is that the Mayan ruins and the Moai were "intelligently designed" whereas the tree just happened to be fit enough for survival to last 3,500 years. Why define the former as a "testament" and the latter as a mere chance coincidence? That's seems a rather arbitrary distinction to make.

If you ask me, the tree is a testament as well. It's a testament to the survival of a tree! The "creations" (I use the word loosely) of nature are no less wonderful than the creations of humans. The existence of humans and every other species on earth, might be said to be a combination of "just happened to live a long time" stretched out over a period of aeons, and each is as worthy of preservation as any work of human ingenuity.

 

[him over there]

That isn't really an apt comparison, The mayan ruins and moai are impressive testaments to human ingenuity, the tree just happened to live a long time.

That's just a matter of definition though. The only real difference is that the Mayan ruins and the Moai were "intelligently designed" whereas the tree just happened to be fit enough for survival to last 3,500 years. Why define the former as a "testament" and the latter as a mere chance coincidence? That's seems a rather arbitrary distinction to make.

If you ask me, the tree is a testament as well. It's a testament to the survival of a tree! The "creations" (I use the word loosely) of nature are no less wonderful than the creations of humans. The existence of humans and every other species on earth, might be said to be a combination of "just happened to live a long time" stretched out over a period of aeons, and each is as worthy of preservation as any work of human ingenuity.

Okay I'm just going to stop here because we obviously have different moral beliefs and values. You see the beauty in everything or whatever and I think humans are the only thing with value because we have the ability to think, explore, create and love things. So agree to disagree, it isn't like either one of us is going to change eachother's minds.

 

[Loonyyy]

Wow. A tree burnt down. You know, I'm pretty sure thousands of others are felled every year. I'm pretty sure we use so many trees for firewood, that this one is inconsequential. Why am I meant to care again? Oh news, why you always so silly.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

My workmates and myself found this news byte hilarious, depressing at the same time but mostly hilarious.

 

[dobahci]

Okay I'm just going to stop here because we obviously have different moral beliefs and values. You see the beauty in everything or whatever and I think humans are the only thing with value because we have the ability to think, explore, create and love things. So agree to disagree, it isn't like either one of us is going to change eachother's minds.

Fair enough, agree to disagree.

*grumble grumble*