Microsoft Bans up to One Million Xbox Live Accounts
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Rich? Do you think I'm rich?ph3onix said:
Every game I bought comes from my own pocket, money I earned whilst still paying to live at university to study nanotechnology, I am the head of a news team for an online 360 clan (which basically means I have to teach a group of americans how to speak English and then scour the internet for information on upcoming games) and I also work 2 bar jobs AND study like buggery for my course, I aren't rich by any measure of it, but I still have a 65+ game library on my 360 alone because it is what I love, and if I have to pay that sort of cash to do what I love, then damn it they should too
1 million banned... but they don't say how many of them are legal owners. Who knows modding ( I'm in game-dev so I'm interested in how it works as to fight something you have first to know it is done ) knows that they are hooks inside the machine. For the software mod-chips by default are invisible. It's the typical blue-pill problem. Hence they can only detect mod-chip users who are stupid enough to play something that they can not play in their region. But again this is not fault tolerant. It's the same as banning on VAC or any other cheating/hacking prevention system. It utterly fails and you only catch the total morons which don't know what they are doing. The real mod-chip users they can not get this way. So in general this is a rather uninteresting news since real mod-chip users are not affected and the total mod-chip n00bs grow faster than they can ban. Hurray for a Sisyphus task with no hope of winning 
( what M$ is best at ).
( what M$ is best at ).
Socially responsible? I don't really see how this helps society at large unless you come from a perspective where the games industry is the only part of society with any value.Matu Flp Krwfe said:
This sort of thing sets precedent to how much a company can get away with. You might think that it is delusional for me to care about what I am spending my money on and what rights I have to it but it is my choice to spend my money where I want.
i found this thread very interesting. i pirate games and have done for over a year, and although i acknowledge that it is in essence stealing, its not the worst thing in the world. plus more importantly games are stupid prices nowadays. take gears of war 2 for example, they sell the game at £40 on release, then bring out map packs afterwards at about £10 worth of microsoft points per set. and with a couple of map packs that brings the cost of the game to about £60, which in my opinion is an insult to the gamers. all these games like gow2 , cod and the halo series can fit all the maps onto the game when its sold or even release them as free downloads but they dont, they're getting greedy which is the same as what pirates do. pirates will never be stopped by the different companies and im talking about games, music and film, as long as a person is creating a new way to stop downloads, they're will always be someone with an education to be able to find a way around it. rather than moaning about pirates, maybe you should moan about the dole scum that sit around, do nothing and spend your hard earned taxes because they steal more money from society than any other set of people.
Dude, there was this bloke at my old college who LITERALLY scored a girl because he was "fighting the system" why was he? because he got Prince of Persia (the new crappy one) for free because he had his XBox modded, and he was all like "yeah I don't believe that Microsoft should be making us pay for this software, we should all contribute man, you put something up, we will too and we will all enjoy it together!"THAC0 said:
yeah he was an arts student... and yeah I was seeing that girl at the time... I am very bitter
Agreed, M$ is fighting a losing battle. As you said they are only catching the people that don't have the common sense to NOT get caught. On top of that, Id be happy to wager the majority will be back online sooner rather than later.Odjin said:1 million banned... but they don't say how many of them are legal owners. Who knows modding ( I'm in game-dev so I'm interested in how it works as to fight something you have first to know it is done ) knows that they are hooks inside the machine. For the software mod-chips by default are invisible. It's the typical blue-pill problem. Hence they can only detect mod-chip users who are stupid enough to play something that they can not play in their region. But again this is not fault tolerant. It's the same as banning on VAC or any other cheating/hacking prevention system. It utterly fails and you only catch the total morons which don't know what they are doing. The real mod-chip users they can not get this way. So in general this is a rather uninteresting news since real mod-chip users are not affected and the total mod-chip n00bs grow faster than they can ban. Hurray for a Sisyphus task with no hope of winning
I see your point, but you mentioned Paris Hilton and the Conservatives, that's what bothered me.LGC Pominator said:
I remember back in the day when I tried to order a mod chip for my PS2 that would allow me to play burned games. I never got the chip, and I can only assume the money ended up in a Mexican drug cartel. I've never bothered trying modding or pirating since then. Then again, if there was a way to solely pirate from Micro$oft and not the developers of the games, I'd probably do it. The money grubbing bastards deserve it.
On a vaguely related not, Windows 7 is surprising not terrible. Shove that up your smug backside, Mac.
On a vaguely related not, Windows 7 is surprising not terrible. Shove that up your smug backside, Mac.
Ah, well, I explained in an earlier post that the jab was just in fun, as I personally cannot stand either, but I find both funny, it wasn't intended to offend, unless you are FOX news, in which case HI, be offended by my liberal america hating terrorist ways!ph3onix said:
(I aren't actually liberal or conservative, im not a terrorist and I dont hate america that much, in fact i want to live there one day... maybe)
My friend is a pirate and brags about his large pirated game collection, he recently got Xbox Live. I wonder if he got blocked. That would be funny!
I told him it would happen.....mwehehehehe.
I told him it would happen.....mwehehehehe.
why don't they do this more often? if they want to keep modded consoles away, they should really consider more frequent checks
If you are modding an xbox (or whatever) with the goal of using pirated games, then you get what you deserve with this ban. Heck... I wish some real legal action could be taken against these people.
How can you justify hurting the medium you love? Just get Gamefly or something.
How can you justify hurting the medium you love? Just get Gamefly or something.
I might have considered modding my machine if I'd got a 360 years back, but now, if and when I get one, I'm damned if I'm modding it, the still scary chance of it breaking on me, combined with the fact I can get hundreds of games, either old or preowned ones for about £5 a time, means the console is far more valuable than the games I might have pirated.
Also I remember during the Dreamcast days, (I'm guilty, yes), that was so easy to pirate that it ended up being more about collecting the titles pokemon style than actually playing the damn games, I've probably still got over a 100 discs of DC stuff, and I probably only played 5 or 6 games more than once. Honestly, my friend was worse than me, he had so many japanese games where we had no clue what to even do, but it another game that other people didn't have.
In fact, the dumbest part of it, is back then with the price of blank cds, I probably spent more pirating Dreamcast games than I would have if I'd just bought the games I liked. However, I was a dumb and ignorant gamer back then and didn't realise I pretty much helped kill the DC off.
I think part of it is a craving for easy free stuff (ignoring the morality for a moment), and there still seems to be no simple answer to piracy, as you just can't punish your legit customers or they'll rebel, as seen so often in terms of MW2, EA's install limits, etc.
I am surprised to see such a high number tho, a million modded machines caught? I really didn't expect that, as I know NO-ONE who owns a modded PS2 or PS3, and I know they're both able to be modded.
I in fact think one of the best moves MS ever made against modding your console was making a shoddy piece of hardware that failed so much in the early days, making people really want to keep their warranty intact (Yes, I know they've improved, but I'd still genuinely take that into consideration.)
I will state that yes, I still do pirate some games, some movies, etc, but as recent studies have shown, I like many others still buy GOOD games, movies and music.
Also I remember during the Dreamcast days, (I'm guilty, yes), that was so easy to pirate that it ended up being more about collecting the titles pokemon style than actually playing the damn games, I've probably still got over a 100 discs of DC stuff, and I probably only played 5 or 6 games more than once. Honestly, my friend was worse than me, he had so many japanese games where we had no clue what to even do, but it another game that other people didn't have.
In fact, the dumbest part of it, is back then with the price of blank cds, I probably spent more pirating Dreamcast games than I would have if I'd just bought the games I liked. However, I was a dumb and ignorant gamer back then and didn't realise I pretty much helped kill the DC off.
I think part of it is a craving for easy free stuff (ignoring the morality for a moment), and there still seems to be no simple answer to piracy, as you just can't punish your legit customers or they'll rebel, as seen so often in terms of MW2, EA's install limits, etc.
I am surprised to see such a high number tho, a million modded machines caught? I really didn't expect that, as I know NO-ONE who owns a modded PS2 or PS3, and I know they're both able to be modded.
I in fact think one of the best moves MS ever made against modding your console was making a shoddy piece of hardware that failed so much in the early days, making people really want to keep their warranty intact
(Yes, I know they've improved, but I'd still genuinely take that into consideration.)I will state that yes, I still do pirate some games, some movies, etc, but as recent studies have shown, I like many others still buy GOOD games, movies and music.