Microsoft Exec: Offline Gamers Should Stick With Xbox 360

Saltyk

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Wait... Let me get this straight...

If I want an "offline console", I can just buy a 360? A console which biggest claim to fame was the online multiplayer. When people commented on what made the 360 "worth it" they brought up the online aspect. But that's totally the "offline console" I should buy.

Has this guy even heard of the XBox 360?
 

thehorror2

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Ironically, I have an internet connection capable of supporting the Xbone, but I'm going to act as if I didn't for the purposes of purchasing one. (Which is to say, I WON'T BE PURCHASING ONE.) I've got more games than I do time to play them and I'm still working through my backlog from the end of 2011! I won't be needing anything "next-gen" for a long, long time.
 

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Dreadman75 said:
Let me see if I've got this straight: He's basically saying that, if you don't have a stable internet connection, "We at Microsoft still want your money, we just don't want your poor-ass, non-internet having hands all over our new toy. Here take our last generation model as a consolation prize and kindly fuck off."

How's that, am I paraphrasing that correctly?

Go to hell Microsoft.
Yeah, that's it.

It's a pretty fucking horrible message, no matter who you are or what you already own. If you already own a 360, Microsoft is saying "Well, no next generation for you then", which is frankly fucking retarded simply because THEY HAVE COMPETITORS.

Speaking of which, if you own a Wii or a PS3 or a PC, Microsoft seems to think people are going to want to 'upgrade' to a 360. Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Hey, some people buy more than one console from a generation, but they don't fucking delude themselves into thinking that buying something from the same generation is an 'upgrade'.

And if you don't own any consoles or a PC less than eight (or w/e) years old? "Hey, you don't get the option of playing the latest and the greatest games out there, you get this thing we made five years ago as a consolation prize [I liked how you put that before, so I'm stealing it]." This is AGAIN ignoring the fact that their competitors don't have the same bullshit restrictions.

I thought Microsoft was being stupid enough by placing anti-consumer bullshit into their console and driving potential customers away simply by adding always online, but now they've literally come out and said "We don't care about your problems, but you 'obviously' can't complain because we've got the only game console out there, right? Right?"

Microsoft... At least EA had the common sense to treat people like shit AFTER they had purchased their products. I look forward to you bending the laws of reality to earn that 1 Billion Xbone sales you were hoping for.

idarkphoenixi said:
I actually gave Microsoft too much credit in thinking they would keep quiet.

Seriously? Pretty much saying fuck you to everyone with a concern about the always-on requirement?

That nuclear submarine comment was just dumb as well. Suggesting that the only person who had bad internet was living deep on a fucking sub...Wow, there are just no words.

At least Microsoft is actually providing me with decent entertainment for once.
This.

Even the optimist in me can't rationalize this statement, or suggest that he was merely exaggerating. And this is the retarded voice in my head who thought that maybe, just MAYBE, Microsoft would be offering free internet to those who didn't have it with the Xbone. This has been said before, but it's amazing just how out of touch with reality these retards are.

Edit: I just realized something. He's even giving the big 'fuck you' to this guy he was talking about in the nuclear submarine. That's just... Wow. And you actually think you're somehow convincing us.
 

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How does this man, who clearly shouldn't be allowed to tie his shoes by himself much less speak on behalf of a company, still have a job?

I'm pretty sure the #DealWithIt guy got fired for being a flippant ass, and yet you allow this sort of behavior from the President of Interactive Entertainment Business? Honestly? I could do a better job of spinning your BS Public Relations issue with a plastic bag tied around a neck and my hands zip-tied. I use the 'about to be murdered' example in this case, however, because that would be the extent to which you would actually have to go in order to convince me to help you advertise what is essentially the BIGGEST "fuck you" ever directed intentionally at a company's consumer base since I came up with my themed restaurant idea called "You'll Eat It and Like It, Dammit!"

EDIT:

Let me be clear on this.

I -have- an Xbox 360. I -have- the original XBOX. I -LOVE- them. I really, REALLY wanted all these stupid rumors to be just that. I thought for CERTAIN you'd know better than to shoot yourself in the foot like this and alienate such an ENORMOUS part of your user base. I wanted to believe it, and I wanted to show some loyalty to the console that has always served me well.

My faith, and good will, are rewarded by this? By a man too mind-numbingly vacant in the cranium to understand 'what it means to be on a nuclear sub' telling me that I SHOULDN'T buy your product because it's not MEANT for me? This was seriously your brilliant plan? I'm only still working on my associate's degree in business, but I'm pretty sure this is a PRIME example of precisely what they've taught me NOT to do. Alienate customers, insult their intelligence, and DISSUADE them from buying your product? It's like the Triple-Play of terrible business sense. You do know that that whole 'no such thing as bad publicity' thing isn't true, right?

Anyhow!

Good luck finding someone willing to commit career suicide to replace your President of Interactive Entertainment Business when you find enough common sense to fire this idiot.
 

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How does this guy still have a job? Every time he opens his mouth he helps Sony sell a few more PS4s. Adam Orth said less than this guy and he got fired.
 

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As a man who makes his living off of customer service, market analysis, and business partnering this is just amazing for me to watch. Sort of like a concert violinist watching a drunken meth addict play a two-string guitar while he's on fire.

How can Microsoft, a major company, be THIS terrible at PR that they explicitly tell consumer bases not to buy their newest gadget and that gamers fears are just the process of them "imagining outcomes"?! Did they fire their entire legal/PR staff? If not, they need to slap some shovels out of their representatives hands before they dig themselves any deeper.
 

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This is starting to turn to Parody really quickly. Microsoft needs to stop digging the hole their under or else the fallout of this thing is gonna be even worse then when this thing comes out and crashes and burns. They have become some twisted joke of how we envision Corporate America.
 

BehattedWanderer

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"And until you use it, it's really hard to understand what all the advantages are."
That's a terrible PR line. You should really be able to tell me what the advantages of it is before I'm picking it up and using it. I've got a list of intrusive disadvantages, and I guess TV and Sports (neither of which I need my console for), but so far...I don't have any advantages that aren't found elsewhere without all the inconveniences. But hey, if you don't want me to buy your new product, that's okay. I won't. Your largest gaming rival company is also putting out a new console, for $100 less, with a better selection of games I'd actually like to play, and not just "TV AND SPORTS!"

Man, M$ is digging themselves such a deep hole at such a great speed, I think they forgot they're not playing Minecraft all the time.

Oh, and Relevant, I guess.
 

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Hey, Don Mattrick, I've got a console for people who can't get online.

It's called the PlayStation 4.

Or the Wii U.

Or something that doesn't come from Microsoft.

Sound good?
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
Finally, and here's a small nugget of hope, does this mean that support for the 360 will continue? Will it still get new games? Will it get Halo 5 and Halo 6 (because those are the only reasons I'd buy a Xbox One) and other exclusives a few years from now? If that's the case, then I have no interest in buying their new console because their old one is still giving me everything I want.
New games and exclusives? Maybe. Online server support? Extremely unlikely, seeing as this message is directed at people who don't have any internet. So, your Halo 6 360 version probably won't have online multiplayer, because fuck you.
 

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B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!

Way to talk around the issues but not about the issues. I'm guessing that for the majority of XBox users, arranging an internet connection is not impossible. (Let's distract them with that story about the submarine!)

But it's not online capabilities that are the problem, you dumbass, it's online requirements! I have no problems with a console going online if it benefits me, the customer. But Microsoft has not shown anyway yet that this has. So here are some of the actual questions that need answering:

1) How does the the once-every-24-hours connection benefit me?
2) Why, if the console cannot connect, does it prevent you playing already installed, offline games?
3) Can you guarantee that in 10+ years, this console will still work, and I will be able to use the device and games I paid for?

If there are cloud-based games, I accept they won't work without a connection. If there are updates, I accept those won't work without a connection. I don't see why other of those should affect games that don't require them, though. As an example of how it should work: STEAM. You can offline as long as you want, whenever and wherever you want.

What you are is a monkey in a suit, throwing your shit at me. "But wait!" you cry, "Don't wipe it off until you have tasted it!" If it looks like shit and smells like shit, it's shit. I don't need to taste it to make sure.
 

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In other words he basically said deal with it.
nice job digging your selves in a deeper hole of the negative pr for microsoft/xbox.
 

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"Well this consoles going down all on the account of the shit storm though well crash there no need to frown as were all going together and I won't say he owes me as I disappear to the Ps4 because I am in good company as we are all going together"
"As I was sinking down into the brine, when a curious sight caught my eye.
Seaman Mycrosoft had found him a raft and was makin' a speedy goodbye.
At the risk of sounding absurd, I have always been good as my word.
So a power cord, I lanced into his eye and I knocked his ass overboard."
 

Ukomba

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"Wow he's right, he's talked me around, I can't wait for an Xbox one now." Said no one ever.

Seriously, is he trying to shame people into buying it? He's basically saying, "Complainers just aren't cool enough to get this consol."
 

Ukomba

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Some hacker is going to take down the Xbox network for a coule days at some point, remember the psn trouble,only thid time itll be a catastrophe be cause all xbones will be bricked after the first day.
 

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I don't want to say I hope the Xbone will fail; but it would put several bags of popcorn to good use to watch the chaos that would ensue if MS pulls a Simcity and everyone who pre-ordered an Xbox One couldn't play it for a week due to server overload.

OT: This whole episode reminds me of the Abercrombie and Fitch "fat people don't belong in our clothes" saga.
 

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I'm amazed how they can do something so right and so wrong at the same time. The game presentation on E3 seemed awesome, but all of the policies of the console itself are a shit sandwich, and frankly, for multiplat the PS4 will deliver at a cheaper price and for first person, I'm thinking Sony is better at that too. So yeah, they either stop being assholes or I see a crash and burn.