Minecraft 1.6 Breaks the Game, Mojang Fixes It

Katana314

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EternalFacepalm said:
Katana314 said:
FOR FUCK'S SAKE, how long will it take this idiot to start a rolling beta!!!

Invite 1,000 or so people to participate in early versions of the next update, and release only to them. When (not if) they encounter bugs, patch those, and then release the version that works for all 1,000 to the public.

Notch is absolutely horrible at releasing working patches. I'd say Valve is equally bad, but we've at least heard they TRY with internal and somewhat-external playtesting.
You're joking, right? Right?
It's an open beta. It means the bugs will be there, and they will be fixed as soon as possible. The point of having an open beta, is that you much, much easier spot bugs. Who do you think spot more bugs - 20 people, or 2 million?
I recognize the title, and he has a "right" to make it in any state he wants. It's not like we can sue him, but it should be obvious he WANTS people to be playing a working game; he obviously doesn't want mass issues like this.

The fact is, he has several million people playing the game already. Fact is, it's already been sold. It may be beta, but when a beta product is so public (like G-mail was for YEARS after it was common use) it does need to be treated with respect. You can bet Google didn't just put up the latest SVN build right away to their 100 million users, deciding "If it breaks something, who cares? It's technically a beta."

The normal definition of beta software has been somewhat broken when it enters such full use that many people don't even realize it's a beta. Vindictus, a F2P MMO, has won awards and has plenty of followers and common players, despite technically being in "beta".

Like the "RPG" it's a term that's kind of lost its definition. Think of Minecraft based on how it's used. And how is it used? It beat out AAA games at the Game of the Year awards, and has over a million users.
 

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HankMan said:
John Funk said:
I bet Obsidian and Bethesda wish they could fix their own patch screwups [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109645-Report-New-Vegas-Patch-Just-Makes-Things-Worse] this quickly.
Hehehe you really took them down a Notch
I die a little inside every time I see one of your puns I mean that in a good way.

I think Notch does a fairly good job of fixing bugs to be honest a lot better than some AAA developers with many more people and resources at their disposal.
 

samsonguy920

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Let's remember this is still Beta, and hiccups like this are to be expected. Notch tweeted that he is tending to the big bugs when he could be enjoying E3 and its environs instead.
Either case it's a good weekend to take a break and get outside. For those in the US it is Memorial Day weekend! For the rest of the northern hemisphere it is 3 weeks to summer! Go have fun!

*:Glad I am not the only one with great patience to this. My heart goes out to those who lost their new diamond items to the bug. But there is more diamond out there!
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
Akalabeth said:
HerbertTheHamster said:
Phlakes said:
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This is why Mojang deserves the MM win.
For doing what a dev should do in the first place?

Damn, I am crying inside. You don't need to be exceptional to win anymore, you just have to reach the bar.
Because most developers take a really long time to get a patch out. I only heard about the problems with 1.6 yesterday, and it's already fixed. Basically no other dev except Valve actually cares enough to do that.

And you may be a bit right about the reaching the bar thing, but right now the bar is pretty low.
It's pretty easy to fix a 60 mb lego simulator compared to a game like say, new vegas. The variables are insane.

I don't really see why patch notes are news-worthy. I ain't complaining though, they post what they want.
Yes and it's pretty easy to fix a game when you've got a team of programmers working on it and not just ONE guy either.
Actually Notch has Mojang do that, but they do nothing anyways.
Notch works on nothing but Minecraft, with off and on help from others in Mojang. The rest of Mojang are working on their other IP, Scrolls.
Maybe you and others who complain Mojang does nothing but goof around should think about those times when your boss at work catches you goofing around. It doesn't matter if you worked hard up to that time, the boss is still going to give you that look.
Don't judge what you don't know.
 

ReZerO

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one thing I've noticed in this patch, the water I've placed is now turning into ice, it's never done that before... or maybe it's just happened to happen at the same time this patch came out?
 

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now fix the issue of items being destroyed after one use after dying, and the issue of always spawing slightly above where you were, sometimes hurting you, sometimes killing you, unfairly leading to the above mentioned glitch of things disappearing after one use
 

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Ultratwinkie said:
samsonguy920 said:
Ultratwinkie said:
Akalabeth said:
HerbertTheHamster said:
Phlakes said:
dogstile said:
Phlakes said:
This is why Mojang deserves the MM win.
For doing what a dev should do in the first place?

Damn, I am crying inside. You don't need to be exceptional to win anymore, you just have to reach the bar.
Because most developers take a really long time to get a patch out. I only heard about the problems with 1.6 yesterday, and it's already fixed. Basically no other dev except Valve actually cares enough to do that.

And you may be a bit right about the reaching the bar thing, but right now the bar is pretty low.
It's pretty easy to fix a 60 mb lego simulator compared to a game like say, new vegas. The variables are insane.

I don't really see why patch notes are news-worthy. I ain't complaining though, they post what they want.
Yes and it's pretty easy to fix a game when you've got a team of programmers working on it and not just ONE guy either.
Actually Notch has Mojang do that, but they do nothing anyways.
Notch works on nothing but Minecraft, with off and on help from others in Mojang. The rest of Mojang are working on their other IP, Scrolls.
Maybe you and others who complain Mojang does nothing but goof around should think about those times when your boss at work catches you goofing around. It doesn't matter if you worked hard up to that time, the boss is still going to give you that look.
Don't judge what you don't know.
Oh yes because we all know taking code from mods and putting it in the official game takes SO much coding and takes months upon years to make. (sarcasm)
May I ask.. Would it be better if he went the activison style and made Minecraft so you couldnt mod it and then sell mods?

cause what I've seen..


People rage at him for not updating fast enough

and once he update people rage that somebody else have already done this and he is just stealing their work.
 

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Phlakes said:
dogstile said:
Phlakes said:
This is why Mojang deserves the MM win.
For doing what a dev should do in the first place?

Damn, I am crying inside. You don't need to be exceptional to win anymore, you just have to reach the bar.
Because most developers take a really long time to get a patch out. I only heard about the problems with 1.6 yesterday, and it's already fixed. Basically no other dev except Valve actually cares enough to do that.

And you may be a bit right about the reaching the bar thing, but right now the bar is pretty low.
Most developers have to also go through millions of lines of code to find the bug. They also have to make sure that their patch doesn't interfere with the game.

EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A BETA THE PARCH SHOULDN'T HAVE KILLED THE GAME FOR PEOPLE. I think its bullshit that people keep throwing out the ITS ONLY A BETA argument every time something goes wrong. Even in most betas the game is never/rarely KILLED or debilitated by an update.
People are also saying HES WORKING WEEKENDS. SO FUCKING WHAT?! Hes designing the game. He wants people to keep playing it if he FUCKS THE GAME UP HE BETTER FUCKING FIX IT FAST.
 

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on the argument of 'it's a beta' and that people paid for the full release of the game which granted them access to the open beta. perhaps this should be said, Lets not encourage company to make us pay for their stuff before they are finished with it.

In notches case it was working well but I can see that being abused by other company's. There is allot of money into Minecraft and there is now a staff hired to work on it. development thus far seems to be staggered at best.

Perhaps Notch should stick to frequent tiny incremental changes instead of these big ones. he has not proven to be up to the challenge just yet.
 

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MisterColeman said:
I knew you guys liked Minecraft but I didn't know you had so much bias that you would not even mention the real issues with this patch.

1.6 is the worst thing to ever happen to the game. It intentionally breaks boats in ways that ruin every world I and many others have ever made. It drained the fun out of my favorite SMP servers. Up until now I've been encouraging people I know to buy the game. I no longer do so, I regret the positive things I have said about it, and I no longer play. I am tired of making mods to correct Mojang's bad decisions; I am done.
So you're mad because he removed the boat-a-vator glitch. And you're quitting over that?

Whatever dude, quit being such a drama queen. Why don't you learn? Instead of having a single pillar of water, have a spiral staircase of it. That's what I did, and it works just as well (just takes longer). If this is seriously the only thing in this game that you found fun, and you've turned into a hater just because of it, then you are the stupidest of people.

I am done.