Minecraft Creator Won't Support Windows 8
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The Microsoft digital distribution store that will come with Win8 isn't the only bad thing about this OS.
I've watched a preview video on youtube where a guy tries out Win8 on his desktop PC,and he showed that the way you control things in it is like iOS or something. It's basically an OS made with touchscreens in mind,not mice. And thus instead of windows having the usual buttons like -,the rectangular and X,to close,minimize etc,you have to replicate the gestures you would do in a touchscreen with your mouse pointer/arrow instead your finger,which makes it just awkward and confusing. But even though if you watch a tutorial and memorize what gestures do what, what it ultimately does is adding extra steps to the procedures someone could do easier and faster. That's not a good point really.
The other thing I noticed is that Win8 lacks features that would make me want to buy it. I mean I haven't learned of any thing that I can only do with Win8 and not with another Windows version yet. Windows 7 was a worthy upgrade as it supports things past versions don't,like SSD trim, directX 11,etc. Win8 is only trying to sell because of its GUI,which is a hit or miss,and personally I don't like the new GUI. Even if I liked it though,there's plenty of GUI customization options available for Win7,which means you can really make them look quite like you would like,if you use some third party software. Win 8 lacks selling points for me.
The last but not least thing I don't like is that they took already known old apps and functions and placed them elsewhere. So to do in Win8 a function that I know how to do in Win7, I will need to spend time to re-learn how to do it. Which I don't like,it will slow my workflow. Why to have to learn a new way to do things I already know how to do them ?
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I've watched a preview video on youtube where a guy tries out Win8 on his desktop PC,and he showed that the way you control things in it is like iOS or something. It's basically an OS made with touchscreens in mind,not mice. And thus instead of windows having the usual buttons like -,the rectangular and X,to close,minimize etc,you have to replicate the gestures you would do in a touchscreen with your mouse pointer/arrow instead your finger,which makes it just awkward and confusing. But even though if you watch a tutorial and memorize what gestures do what, what it ultimately does is adding extra steps to the procedures someone could do easier and faster. That's not a good point really.
The other thing I noticed is that Win8 lacks features that would make me want to buy it. I mean I haven't learned of any thing that I can only do with Win8 and not with another Windows version yet. Windows 7 was a worthy upgrade as it supports things past versions don't,like SSD trim, directX 11,etc. Win8 is only trying to sell because of its GUI,which is a hit or miss,and personally I don't like the new GUI. Even if I liked it though,there's plenty of GUI customization options available for Win7,which means you can really make them look quite like you would like,if you use some third party software. Win 8 lacks selling points for me.
The last but not least thing I don't like is that they took already known old apps and functions and placed them elsewhere. So to do in Win8 a function that I know how to do in Win7, I will need to spend time to re-learn how to do it. Which I don't like,it will slow my workflow. Why to have to learn a new way to do things I already know how to do them ?
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Microsoft did that for them self, not for Notch or anyone else.Fasckira said:
Minecraft sold like mad and MS knew that would happen. The ensured that the biggest indie title will be exclusive for their console (PC not included). They earn on the sales, on the skin sales, soon on the texture pack sales. They will probably start soon to require Mojang to make DLC's instead of free updates.
So no, Notch should not be grateful. Porting Minecraft to the 360 was pure business and both sides earned money on that. Neither side did they because they wanted to be good.
Jeez man, I was joking. I'll examine Win 8 on its own merits when it's released.Crono1973 said:
Personally, I think Windows is in a good niche right now between the openness of Linux and the user friendliness of Mac and they'll get slaughtered if they try to be more like one or the other. I just want to use a computer without having to learn a new programming language or having to let Mommy Apple take my hand so I wont get hurt.
OT: I'm totally on Notch's side here. We're just getting into the swing of independent developers being able to produce really good stuff, not just games but productivity software and other things too, and tying that up in a bunch of red tape or fees is really the wrong way to go.
Johnson McGee said:
I wasn't ONLY talking to you but in every topic about Windows 8 someone says this. It has gotten old.
I am on Notch's side here too. Why pay Microsoft or ask for Microsoft permission (a license) to release a game.
Don't they understand? This is the Windows formula. Good OS - Bad OS - Repeat.
Windows 3.1: Good.
Windows 95: Bad.
Windows 98: Good.
Windows ME: BAD.
Windows XP: Very good.
Windows Vista: Sweet jesus...
Windows 7: Good.
Windows 8...
Just sayin.
I have 7 now. Works damn well for me. Not switching.
Windows 3.1: Good.
Windows 95: Bad.
Windows 98: Good.
Windows ME: BAD.
Windows XP: Very good.
Windows Vista: Sweet jesus...
Windows 7: Good.
Windows 8...
Just sayin.
I have 7 now. Works damn well for me. Not switching.
This whole thing about Win8 possibly having an in-built store and needing "certification" to let you run 3rd party software without bothering around a Microsoft malware warning brings up an interesting topic I haven't thought about. Should the government(specifically the US, I'm just gonna stay local here) be regulating computer technology in some way? The internet has become an integral part of many people's lives, and many important businesses would be destroyed if it was suddenly taken away from them. The internet is no longer a place where only technologically advanced geeks can understand what everything does, it's an integral part of most of the developed world.
So, if Microsoft hypothetically decided to only allow officially certified software on, lets say Windows 9, and offered to allow 3rd party software only if the owners of that software payed a fee and went through the screening process, that would seriously cripple many businesses and would cause havoc. Let's just assume that either Microsoft is somehow the only reliable computer company by the time this Windows 9 comes out or all other computer developers have also implemented this change.
Think how the government realized that cars were an incredibly important invention and made lots of rules concerning how they are made and sold to the public. Seeing as how the computer, and it's access to the internet and whatever software the user desires is now so very important to the lives of everyone who uses it, should the government be implementing laws concerning it?
So, if Microsoft hypothetically decided to only allow officially certified software on, lets say Windows 9, and offered to allow 3rd party software only if the owners of that software payed a fee and went through the screening process, that would seriously cripple many businesses and would cause havoc. Let's just assume that either Microsoft is somehow the only reliable computer company by the time this Windows 9 comes out or all other computer developers have also implemented this change.
Think how the government realized that cars were an incredibly important invention and made lots of rules concerning how they are made and sold to the public. Seeing as how the computer, and it's access to the internet and whatever software the user desires is now so very important to the lives of everyone who uses it, should the government be implementing laws concerning it?
I'm having agood time using Win 7, in my mind it's their best OS so far. I used XP before that, skipped Vista because I did not enjoy it at all. I had no plans to buy Win 8 even before people started flailing about how horrible it is, but to be honest I'm not even sure what makes it horrible. I've been lazy, as I often am, and not bothered reading up on it...
I actually thought Win 8 wasn't intended for PCs but rather things such as touch phones and tablets similar to the iPad. Clearly I was very wrong! Serves me right I guess, for not being updated on matters of technology.
I actually thought Win 8 wasn't intended for PCs but rather things such as touch phones and tablets similar to the iPad. Clearly I was very wrong! Serves me right I guess, for not being updated on matters of technology.
Yeah, this stuff! I went from 98 to XP to 7 and I've had a good time! I never even thought about stopping by the ones between actually, 98 lasted fine until Xp and I was even heistating before switching from Xp to 7 because I enjoyed Xp so much! 7 is great though...tehweave said:
I'm using the Windows 8 beta at the moment (dual-booted in Boot Camp on a Macbook Pro). Perhaps I'm not getting the full 'experience', as it's not my main OS (so I have no need to use things like Metro email apps etc.), it just seems like Windows 7 with an unnecessary barrier between you and the desktop. For PC users, that's the exact opposite of the promised 'streamlining'.
That said, quick-launch buttons on the Start screen, combined with fast boot times, make getting to games a fairly efficient process.
That said, quick-launch buttons on the Start screen, combined with fast boot times, make getting to games a fairly efficient process.
I've never loved Notch (or hated him either), but I'm glad to say that I agree with him here. I am not expecting to like Windows 8, but I'll have to wait for it to be released to pass final judgement on it.
ohohohoh! i see what you did there. classyDVS BSTrD said:
to the OP: lets be honest. windows has always had its ups and down, it always will!
first you get a good operating system, then a bad one, then a good one. this has been happening since bygone ages.
most notable was XP ( good ) vista ( bad ) win7 ( excelent )
You forgot Windows 2000 Professional. That is the OS I fell back on when Vista was released and it was awesome. It was better than XP in my opinion except for gaming.tehweave said:
OT- Ah, Notch. I'd like to introduce you to my good friend the DESKTOP. Which is in Windows 8. Notch, if you really hate windows with a passion and such, just switch to Linux and be done with it. I've used Windows 8 and it's actually pretty okay NOT counting the Metro UI. The only problem you'll have with it is the fact that if they try to make Minecraft a Metro app (no clue why in the first place), and even then, most of us computer users are not going to use the tablet interface as much as MS wants us to. And if you really need your Minecraft fix, I believe there's a way to play it in Linux with Wine or a VM.
Wait, I already heard this story... on this website. This is the same story!
Also, Notch isn't outspoken. He has legions of mindless fans, some on this very website, and is the biggest name in indie-ish games at the moment. He has quiet a bit of power and the ability to influence opinion.
Also, Notch isn't outspoken. He has legions of mindless fans, some on this very website, and is the biggest name in indie-ish games at the moment. He has quiet a bit of power and the ability to influence opinion.
I think Notch is often way off base with a lot of things he says, but he's right to be afraid of Windows 8. Not so much for what it is, but for what it obviously wants to become down the line. A closed, controlled platform that crushes the little guys and remove user options.
It's a shame that instead of trying to make the PC better at being a PC, they're trying to turn it into a giant iPhone.
It's a shame that instead of trying to make the PC better at being a PC, they're trying to turn it into a giant iPhone.