Minecraft Creator Won't Support Windows 8

[DeadpoolPwnz]

funny how notch thinks he can do anything about windows 8 running minecraft
that's really down to java support more than anything else

even if it scans for windows 8 you can still run it in a virtual windows 7 environment

for the record windows 8 runs in half the resource footprint, runs most programs windows 7 can and has a traditional desktop if you choose as-well as the tablet interface
it does not ruin gaming or computers
personally i'm looking forward to getting more use out of my touch pannel browsing screen
as for
"is windows 8 an upgrade?"
it's a matter of preference and how-much power your hardware has
if anything it improves the experiences of people with low end hardware, laptops and tablets
most of the casual gaming market ( who have a large overlap with notches player-base ) will notice a decent performance boost when using windows 8
all in all, it hurts nobody
it is completely optional and if you don't like it don't use it simple

so big puff of sensationalist air from notch as usual

This.
I'm using Windows 8 consumer preview and minecraft ran just fine for me. So this thread is full of fail and conspiracy. So far i've yet to encounter any of the things people are complaining about regarding windows 8 and i've been using it for about 2 months. The metro screen is more or less optional and just for lulz i put some of my games on it if i know what i'm going to be doing the second i turn my computer on.

 

[Epona]

funny how notch thinks he can do anything about windows 8 running minecraft
that's really down to java support more than anything else

even if it scans for windows 8 you can still run it in a virtual windows 7 environment

for the record windows 8 runs in half the resource footprint, runs most programs windows 7 can and has a traditional desktop if you choose as-well as the tablet interface
it does not ruin gaming or computers
personally i'm looking forward to getting more use out of my touch pannel browsing screen
as for
"is windows 8 an upgrade?"
it's a matter of preference and how-much power your hardware has
if anything it improves the experiences of people with low end hardware, laptops and tablets
most of the casual gaming market ( who have a large overlap with notches player-base ) will notice a decent performance boost when using windows 8
all in all, it hurts nobody
it is completely optional and if you don't like it don't use it simple

so big puff of sensationalist air from notch as usual

This.
I'm using Windows 8 consumer preview and minecraft ran just fine for me. So this thread is full of fail and conspiracy. So far i've yet to encounter any of the things people are complaining about regarding windows 8 and i've been using it for about 2 months. The metro screen is more or less optional and just for lulz i put some of my games on it if i know what i'm going to be doing the second i turn my computer on.

It's not about if Minecraft will run in Windows 8, it's about certification. It's about Microsoft trying to get people to certify software on Windows because it's the first step to becoming a closed OS.

 

[Signa]

would someone mind explaining to me why windows 8 is going to be so bad? not that im interested in switching over to it, windows 7 is just too good in my opinion. Are microsoft trying to make windows 8 locked down like xbox live?

My friend explained it. He's a programer, and in trying to make something work for Windows 8, something would take 75 lines of code instead of 2. Even if it's something the end-user will never see, the cost of 40 times the amount of work to develop a program is going to hurt us.

Edit: I found the chat log

9:56 PM Him: I love jumping between win 7 and 8.
9:57 PM me: night and day difference?
Him: Yeah, one blows chunks, and the other doesn't.
Can you guess which?
me: now, are you speaking as a programer or a user?
9:58 PM from what I've heard, being a prgramer in 8 is far worse than being a user.
Him: Yes, yes it is.
That's where all of my headaches have come from over the past two days.
9:59 PM Something that used to take 3 lines of code, now takes 75 lines of code.
me: what
the
fusk
*fuck
10:00 PM I'd ask why, but you'd have to explain a lot to me I'm sure.
It's no wonder why Gabe wants to move to Linux
10:01 PM Him: Yeah
me: probably cheaper in the long run
10:03 PM Him: Remind me to tell you about next time were face to face.
me: sure
10:06 PM Him: Seriously, turning a byte array into a bitmap should be one of the easiest things to do.

I don't pretend to know what he's talking about exactly, but that was how the conversation went.

 

[SuperSuperSuperGuy]

Well, I never intended to change from Windows 7, anyway. I feel like it's the best OS Microsoft's ever made. I'm just hoping they don't drop support for it too quickly.

I'm probably going to skip Windows 8 like I did Vista. I see no real reason to upgrade quite yet.

 

[Souplex]

Windows 7: Good.

I'm sorry, could you repeat that?
I had something insane in my ear.

Windows 7 is better than Windows XP

I'm sorry, it sounded like you said that Windows 7 was better than Windows XP,even though XP is the greatest OS ever to exist, or better than any Windows OS for that matter.
But that can't be right, because 7 is the biggest piece of shit I have ever had the displeasure of using.
If I could get away with Vista, I would go back to that, since XP gone.
7 is basically Microsoft's attempt to make a Mac.
It's less terrible than a Mac by virtue of being made by people who know how to do things, but it's still terrible.
It's like that story the MovieBlob keeps referring to where the world class chef found he simply couldn't perfectly replicate a Big Mac.
As far as I can tell from my experience with Vista, it was simply the target of a massive smear-campaign.

 

[CpT_x_Killsteal]

I don't even know what's so bad about Win 8 that the gaming industry would have concerns. I just saw the desktop tablet layout start screen and knew I wasn't gonna get this.

Alot of games won't work with windows 8, most of the being indie games.

 

[jpoon]

This is the next OS I will be skipping, same as Vista. This was just an unnecessary OS from Microsoft. Hopefully this one will go down like a flaming bag of shit and they'll be forced to either produce an OS specifically for desktops/laptops as expected or they'll at least remove the touch interface that is causing so much disdain.

 

[Darkness665]

I don't even know what's so bad about Win 8 that the gaming industry would have concerns. I just saw the desktop tablet layout start screen and knew I wasn't gonna get this.

Win 8 is not the actual problem. MS is trying to mimic apple, iTunes->AppStore and the Mac App Store.

Apple takes a 30% cut of everything. MS wants the only apps to be installed on any Windows 8 system to only come from their walled garden. Apple gets away with it and gets all the press with happy, happy customers. MS has an open OS and gets crapped on by everybody. So, let's copy apple and get 30% of all the revenue. And They charge tens of thousands of $$$$ to verify one app. Each time its gets released. The same is true on the Xbox, first update is free and all others are $40k. That isn't even a percentage they keep it all. Now they want 30% of the sale price of each app in addition to the verification fees.

MS Windows, all of them, are huge lumbering software stacks that were at least open. You could even develop with other peoples tools and release products on various releases. If you wanted the cute little windows sticker on the front of the box then you needed to pay the extra dollars for it. If you are just a little developer whose entire yearly income is under $50k, well, MS is literally eating your lunch, dinner and car payment.

The tablet UI is a joke. To me, it looks like it comes from the Xbox interface and that is a significantly broken piece of UI. Pay a fee, then get ads forced on you and they hammer your network download cap constantly. For that you paid money and MS gets ad money for all those captive eyeballs.

Final point is MS Windows, for all its faults, was open.
Apple and all of its products are walled gardens.
MS wants 30% of everything that runs on Win8.
That is going to hurt everybody but Microsoft.

 

[Korten12]

Windows 7: Good.

I'm sorry, could you repeat that?
I had something insane in my ear.

Windows 7 is better than Windows XP

I'm sorry, it sounded like you said that Windows 7 was better than Windows XP,even though XP is the greatest OS ever to exist, or better than any Windows OS for that matter.
But that can't be right, because 7 is the biggest piece of shit I have ever had the displeasure of using.
If I could get away with Vista, I would go back to that, since XP gone.
7 is basically Microsoft's attempt to make a Mac.
It's less terrible than a Mac by virtue of being made by people who know how to do things, but it's still terrible.
It's like that story the MovieBlob keeps referring to where the world class chef found he simply couldn't perfectly replicate a Big Mac.
As far as I can tell from my experience with Vista, it was simply the target of a massive smear-campaign.

Well you're in a small minority because the majority of Win 7 users think it's better then XP. :/ I have yet to see someone go to Win 7 and then go back to XP.

 

[Supertegwyn]

Are microsoft trying to make windows 8 locked down like xbox live?

Essentially yes, but they aren't complete idiots so W8 will only come with a built in DRM/distribution service but not prevent you from using others, right now they want to get all possible devs on board so they will have the majority of software under their heel and people would simply not go elsewhere.
Then you can imagine they can start charging some subscription and certification fees, ultimately making it a MS exclusive platform where they take a cut on everything.

But with them getting ass whipped over just the built in browser I imagine this will cost them another few billion in court.

Somebody's paranoid....

I think Notch is a whiny ***** in this.

 

[Teacakes]

XP and 7 are sort of tied in my mind. XP holds quite a lot of nostalgia for me because I used it from shortly after launch day until long after 7 had come out. I have enjoyed 7 so far, it's been quite stable and I haven't had many huge glaring problems (knock on wood) in the ~2 years I've had this machine.

I won't be getting 8, despite the desktop option. I'm quite leery of the apple-shaped direction Microsoft is taking. Yes, I know it's a company, and in our capitalist system they're free to make whatever stupid decisions they want with their product as long as it's mostly legal. And in our capitalist system I'm free to not buy their stuff until they shape the hell up.

 

[Mikael Guldborg Rask Andersen]

Jesus... People really need to stop whining about Windows 8. I've been using it for a while now through my Dreamspark Premium license, and it is absolutely excellent. The decision MS has made to integrate their new tablet/phone platform with their already existing OS is the only right decision they could possibly have made.

It's better for the developers and more importantly, it is better for the end-users.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Somebody's paranoid....

I think Notch is a whiny ***** in this.

So you have nothing to contribute, but still decided to make some noise with that very limited vocabulary.
I'm glad we keep people like you around...

 

[Brad Shepard]

so let me get this right, the fat guy sells his game on xbox, then tries to preach how he is standing up for the internet (And yes, it comes off as him preaching he is standing up for the internet by saying if he does not support it maybe people wont use it) by not doing this? good lord this guy is like a boomerang.

 

[Captainanorach]

it wouldn't surprise me, if Microsoft were hedging their bets on software vendors deciding between, paying for certification on win 8. As opposed to spending significantly more on redeveloping their software fo another OS eg. Linux.

having said that, I've been playing around with win 8 and it's not as bad as some people make out. but I'd ve happier if you could turn off metro, either by choice or by a hack.

it's also significantly faster than win 7 in some instances which is always a bonus.

 

[Denamic]

it wouldn't surprise me, if Microsoft were hedging their bets on software vendors deciding between, paying for certification on win 8. As opposed to spending significantly more on redeveloping their software fo another OS eg. Linux.

having said that, I've been playing around with win 8 and it's not as bad as some people make out. but I'd ve happier if you could turn off metro, either by choice or by a hack.

it's also significantly faster than win 7 in some instances which is always a bonus.

What's bad about Win 8 isn't something you would experience as a user.
It's about how it works and what it does to the consumer market.

 

[Evil Smurf]

I am going to enjoy how much Microsoft backpedals in windows 9

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

I and a few people seem to have grind with Win8. Honestly, I want to know whether the commercial industry and governments are ever going to adopt Win8 as this is where the main income for Windows comes from.

The university I work for isn't. Thats around 500+ PC units (the low end estimate which doesn't include the tech out at the satellite campuses) and attendant servers that won't be getting it.

 

[Captainanorach]

it wouldn't surprise me, if Microsoft were hedging their bets on software vendors deciding between, paying for certification on win 8. As opposed to spending significantly more on redeveloping their software fo another OS eg. Linux.

having said that, I've been playing around with win 8 and it's not as bad as some people make out. but I'd ve happier if you could turn off metro, either by choice or by a hack.

it's also significantly faster than win 7 in some instances which is always a bonus.

What's bad about Win 8 isn't something you would experience as a user.
It's about how it works and what it does to the consumer market.

true but at the moment it's only a possibility, as you can still install everything to a standard desktop and you don't have to only use apps from metro. I suppose I'm being cautiously optimistic. plus I have the benefit of being able to acquire win 8 pro for 10$ and I have a full retail copy of win 7 to fall back on.

 

[Woodsey]

2. Gabe Newell is just mad because microsoft is going to have a store too.

Microsoft already has a store. (Hint: it's shit.)