Minecraft Endermen: Good Idea?

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lacktheknack

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Captain Pirate said:
Proarcher said:
"herp derp blar blar ignorance etc." If you want that content install the mods and quit insulting his company's original, quality work.
"Herp derp blar blar no need to be such a dick etc"
What I meant was that he'd already copied mods with Pistons, I thought since the ideas were so good and since all the programmed code is, I assume, already there for him to get hold of, he could easily implement the mods officially, and trust me, he will copy mods again. Not that I'm complaining, I was just saying it'd be nice if he made them official, get them the recognition they deserve.

And I'll insult it if I want to, thanks.
'Original'? Seriously?
The name itself referenceres the creepy internet meme of which it was copied... Slender man.
It's characteristics fit it as well.
I just don't see it as much of a game changer, more of an irritating annoyance.
When there is so much stuff in mods that can add layers of new, varied content, it annoys me that instead we are given a mob that can pick up blocks and teleport.
That sounds not challenging, but annoying. You'll notice it taking down your base, then fight it, during which it'll teleport towards you very quickly.
Wow. How fun. Something new to piss me off.

Excuse me for wanting new things to construct with as opposed to yet another enemy to irritate my building.
You can stop projecting now. You don't really know how the Enderman will be implemented, but I can guarantee you that it won't be all that annoying (Notch does balance these things). It CERTAINLY won't actively dismantle your base. The AI behind that would be murderous.

Also, if you bothered to check minecraftwiki, you'd see that he's giving you new objects and concepts that don't involve combat, AS WELL as improving combat, AS WELL as adding Endermen. Would you like a link?

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
 

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Captain Pirate said:
lacktheknack said:
"GODDAMMIT, NOTCH! STOP PLAGERIZING!"
I never said that. I could care less if he copies things, as long as they are good and fun, not irritating.
"GODDAMMIT, NOTCH! START ADDING THE GOOD STUFF WE SEE IN MODS!"
Yes please.
Here's a novel concept... you could download the mods you want YOURSELF, and Notch can continue adding whatever he wants. As is, the only way Notch can please the fanbase is to ban modding capabilities altogether until he's done development. Not a good idea? Well, it would certainly kill the double standard everyone holds him to.
What? No way does everyone hold him to a double standard, and how would that please the fanbase? It would just piss them off. As I said in answer to the other guy to reply to me, I'd just like to see them made official, seeming as they are so good.
Sadly, you seem to have missed that the fanbase consists of two main factions: the "Notch is a dirty rotten plagerizer who should leave the mods alone" faction, and "Notch is being a douche and ignoring all the great ideas being handed to him" faction. Both are equally loud. There was a minor uproar following pistons, there was a minor uproar following wolves, there's going to be a minor uproar following Endermen. Notch can't win.
 

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lacktheknack said:
You can stop projecting now. You don't really know how the Enderman will be implemented, but I can guarantee you that it won't be all that annoying (Notch does balance these things). It CERTAINLY won't actively dismantle your base. The AI behind that would be murderous.

Also, if you bothered to check minecraftwiki, you'd see that he's giving you new objects and concepts that don't involve combat, AS WELL as improving combat, AS WELL as adding Endermen. Would you like a link?

http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Upcoming_features
Thanks for the link, I had no ideawhat other stuff was being added, I just sort of jumped to conclusions after seeing that there'd be a mob that can move blocks.
I damn well hope it won't dismantle anything, though.

That other stuff, like farms and blocks and NPC villages, look pretty damn awesome though.
 

Nightvalien

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Give it a pyramid head and a great knife, that way you can scare people even more.

captcha: spagov rugosa what?
 

Sigmund Av Volsung

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I say, bring it on!
I enjoy a good challenge...

BTW combined w/ the ruins, this update eerily resembles indiana jones 4...
 

jawakiller

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Ah yeah, more scary at night. It good ya!

But I always thought skeletons were the scary mob not creepers.
 

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Mad Stalin said:
How can you be scared off something that looks like a square and 4 pieces of spaghetti? "Real" Slenderman, fair nuff. But this? Looks like shit ;( Notch should really move it out of java and get this dude to make the models http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDoaSO9nxUQ
I am no longer sleeping tonight. Not sure if minecraft would work as well if everything wasn't blocky though.
 

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Creator002 said:
lacktheknack said:
However, the INSTANT you put your reticle on it, it freezes, turns, and stares at you.

It will continue to stare at you forever, until you look away.

Then it either barrels at you with frightening speed, or, if it's far away enough, it TELEPORTS AT YOU. (No word on if it can teleport up to the balcony your standing on, or if you can piss it off through windows.)

i like to say something. never did it say it kills you or even harms you so they may not be as big a problem as everyone thinks.
 

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This is pretty funny and kind of cool. I like Slenderman as a figure of modern mythology. Unfortunately, I spent so much time building my floating forest island/castles above the endless sea, that I'm just totally over Minecraft. Weeks upon weeks of losing sleep working through the night. Then I finished and realized I had nothing. So I uninstalled.
 

Belzera

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Sounds like something that'll push me further into the light >.>'

Also regarding pistons? Didn't the modder give Notch/Mojang permission to use Pistons in Minecraft. If that is the case its far from plagerism, its making something a modder has come up with official.
 

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Personally, i'd find it weirder, maybe not creepier, if instead of standing there. They slowly walk to the block next to you, and stare you down.
a three foot monstrosity, towering over you and just staring.

But that would probably diminsih the creepy aspect for most people.
 

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Good thing I just finished my retractable drawbridge to my floating fortress of doom. Now to have it 100% lit. Time to mine lots and lots of glowstone.
 

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Berenzen said:
Good thing I just finished my retractable drawbridge to my floating fortress of doom. Now to have it 100% lit. Time to mine lots and lots of glowstone.
Er,
1: It teleports, so you have looked at it, it'll probably get you before the fall kills it.
2: What if you encounter it outside of your fortress of doom territory.
 

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This thing will creep the shit out of me, make me paranoid, and afraid of its existence.

*****, I want this so bad, no monster has ever done that to me.
 

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jawakiller said:
Ah yeah, more scary at night. It good ya!

But I always thought skeletons were the scary mob not creepers.
I think people are misunderstanding the creeper's name. I would think it's named a creeper because it "creeps along", not because it's creepy. That thing is so damn silent that it creeps up on you if you have your back turned long enough.

Hence, "creeper".

EDIT: Honestly, I think the only way the Enderman could ever pose a threat is if he's one of two things:

Strong, but rare
or
Weak, but numerous.

Strong/rare, he's basically got a lot of health and damage, but only appears once in a blue moon, so you REALLY start swearing if you happen to see him.

Weak/numerous, he's weak and easily killed, but when you see him and look away, he chases you and calls out to all his friends in the area, which there will be a lot of them (maybe they'll travel in packs or something), and then they all chase you.

Really the only way seeing him can ever mean something.

EDIT2: And honestly, what's more likely to kill you?

"Oh shit, I just saw an EM. ok, calm down, back away slowly. slowly... slowly... slo-SSSSSSSSSS

...shit.
 

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SirAroun said:
Creator002 said:
lacktheknack said:
However, the INSTANT you put your reticle on it, it freezes, turns, and stares at you.

It will continue to stare at you forever, until you look away.

Then it either barrels at you with frightening speed, or, if it's far away enough, it TELEPORTS AT YOU. (No word on if it can teleport up to the balcony your standing on, or if you can piss it off through windows.)

i like to say something. never did it say it kills you or even harms you so they may not be as big a problem as everyone thinks.
No...

So I made it passive until you looked straight at it. And that was scary. Suddenly you could walk up to these looking beasts (they?re three meters tall) and watch them as they moved their blocks around, but as soon as you happened to look straight at them, they?d attack. And by ?straight at them?, I mean putting the reticle on top of them. You can keep them visible on screen and actually look straight at them in real life, but as soon as your in game character looks straight at them, boom.

Still, that was more scary than creepy. It?s like a jump scare in a movie. You know it might happen at any time, and when it happens you freak out a bit. I wanted something a bit more psychological. So to really drive home the point of looking at them being bad, I made the Endermen freeze and turn towards you when you look at them. As long as you look straight at them, they stand perfectly still and look straight at you. As soon as you look away, they will run (very fast) towards you.

And they teleport. If they?re too far away to reach you in a short period of time, they will teleport about once per second. They try to make sure they always teleport to somewhere you can see, as I don?t want to confuse the player as to what is happening.

When they attack, you know it?s your fault.

Emphasis added by me. Please tell me what "attack" might mean that doesn't involve your health falling and you going "AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH OMGOMGOMGOMG".
 

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lacktheknack said:
Averant said:
Hell, you know what would be really creepy? If you saw one, then turned and ran, and it teleports in front of you. Scare the living shit out of you, that would.
Read the blog post... they already do. To "help orient the player", apparently.
Indeed they do... but that's just in the general vicinity of where they're looking. I was thinking they could teleport DIRECTLY in front of you, maybe a block or two away. You know, you're running away, and BAM that thing is in your face staring down at you.

That would scare the hell out of me.

although notch did say they're supposed to be more creepy than scary. Pity.