Miyamoto Thinks PS Vita Needs More Games

[darksakul]

Miyamoto admitted that the 3DS had had issues with a similar lack of compelling launch titles.
Miyamoto is a troll to think we listen to him when he being a hypocrite.

The 3DS been out for more than a year, the PS Vita, a few months and the Vita already has the stronger library of games, and it is not region locked.

Well, the Vita didn't release with mountains of shovelware, unlike the 3DS, so I don't think nintendo has the right to talk in that regard.

Besides, we get P4:TG. That makes the whole console worth buying. Best part is: It's coming out in fall. Most original titles for 3DS took a year to come out.

Agreed

When Nintendo stop accepting Shovelware for titles, then maybe Nintendon't might have a point.

So far I seen only one really bad title for the Vita (Dungeon Hunter), some are lack luster titles but not awful ones. I can count on one hand all the 3DS games I think are worth it, 3 and 2 of them are N64 ports. The is Mario Kart 7. Super Mario 3D Land is a disappointment, and that is hard for a non-sport Mario game to do.

 

[DRTJR]

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

I liked it, It had good writing that actually made me laugh a few times as well as the fact that it wasn't afraid to make fun of itself.

Why does everything Miyamoto say become news? He's not particularly insightful and he's incredibly boring.

Because he created some of the most successful games in the world, and having a ludicrous pedigree of games he either worked on or headed up.

 

[Cry Wolf]

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

I liked it, It had good writing that actually made me laugh a few times as well as the fact that it wasn't afraid to make fun of itself.

Why does everything Miyamoto say become news? He's not particularly insightful and he's incredibly boring.

Because he created some of the most successful games in the world, and having a ludicrous pedigree of games he either worked on or headed up.

I probably should have phrased it better; why is he still news worthy?

 

[DirgeNovak]

You know what they say about people living in glass houses...

 

[Tempest13]

the 3DS hasn't really impressed me much either, once Fire Emblem 13 comes out then Miyamoto can start talking

 

[bjj hero]

Mario is far different from Persona. The only people I see using the "remaking the same game" thing are people who just hate Nintendo. Also considering the popularity of Mario versus Persona you might want to find a better comparison point instead of an obscure japanese game versus the most popular game series in the world.

My point was that original titles are not as important as you were making out. Consoles can do fine with remakes and sequels if there is an appetite for them. If you'd read all of my post you would have seen that I went on to question the niche titles people are desperate for on the vita.

Just because you can find very similar mario or mario kart titles on the Wii or the DS lite has not meant that the 3ds didnt sell. There is no saying that the Vita cant do the same with popular sony titles.

Someone is feeling defensive today...

 

[80Maxwell08]

Mario is far different from Persona. The only people I see using the "remaking the same game" thing are people who just hate Nintendo. Also considering the popularity of Mario versus Persona you might want to find a better comparison point instead of an obscure japanese game versus the most popular game series in the world.

My point was that original titles are not as important as you were making out. Consoles can do fine with remakes and sequels if there is an appetite for them. If you'd read all of my post you would have seen that I went on to question the niche titles people are desperate for on the vita.

Just because you can find very similar mario or mario kart titles on the Wii or the DS lite has not meant that the 3ds didnt sell. There is no saying that the Vita cant do the same with popular sony titles.

Someone is feeling defensive today...

This isn't really me being defensive I have arguments to what people are saying and I'm saying them. I never said the 3DS didn't sell though I get people saying that I was saying that from my statements about unoriginal titles. The problem is Sony doesn't own anything that much in high demand. Uncharted was a launch title and that obviously didn't do much and that's one of Sony's highest selling first party titles. Honestly Sony's own titles aren't that original anyway. The most popular ones I can think of are Uncharted and Gran Turismo and regardless of their quality they are just a racing game and a third person shooter. Software sells a console and they just don't have anything that's screaming at people to buy the system and I really don't think Persona 4 will be that game either. If it ends up being that I'll make a post on the forums and apologize for all of this.

 

[Ziadaine_v1legacy]

Add $120+ onto those prices and that's how much we have to pay in Australia for one. Price is too high, and there's a lack of games also. top top it off, games we DO own on PS1 or PS2 have to be Re-Bought AGAIN via the PS Network.

Personally, I'm not buying one until FFX is released on it, which probably wont be until 2013 :\

 

[Guffe]

the vitas problem is that it does not play Pokemon.

Business idea!
Lets make a watch that you can play the pokemon games on!
Soon we're billionares!

 

[bjj hero]

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This isn't really me being defensive I have arguments to what people are saying and I'm saying them. I never said the 3DS didn't sell though I get people saying that I was saying that from my statements about unoriginal titles. The problem is Sony doesn't own anything that much in high demand. Uncharted was a launch title and that obviously didn't do much and that's one of Sony's highest selling first party titles. Honestly Sony's own titles aren't that original anyway. The most popular ones I can think of are Uncharted and Gran Turismo and regardless of their quality they are just a racing game and a third person shooter. Software sells a console and they just don't have anything that's screaming at people to buy the system and I really don't think Persona 4 will be that game either. If it ends up being that I'll make a post on the forums and apologize for all of this.

When you start talking about "Nintendo haters" rather than the point you are putting forward it does come across as defensive.

To be honest I think the biggest issue with Vita is marketing. I see advertisements for the new mario, kid icarus, new 3ds titles, the 3ds etc. all over the TV. I dont think Ive seen a single TV spot for the Vita nevermind any of its titles. I'm not even sure whats out for it, although I have a friend who keeps on about wipeout.

That is not the way to launch a new handheld. You need to create a buzz and make people want it. Uncharted could be the next level in gaming but I didn't know it was out until I read this thread.

Having said that I've rarely touched a hand held since I owned my own car in 2004. As I no longer use public transport or ride shotgun it seems like a lot of money to play games on the toilet...

 

[80Maxwell08]

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This isn't really me being defensive I have arguments to what people are saying and I'm saying them. I never said the 3DS didn't sell though I get people saying that I was saying that from my statements about unoriginal titles. The problem is Sony doesn't own anything that much in high demand. Uncharted was a launch title and that obviously didn't do much and that's one of Sony's highest selling first party titles. Honestly Sony's own titles aren't that original anyway. The most popular ones I can think of are Uncharted and Gran Turismo and regardless of their quality they are just a racing game and a third person shooter. Software sells a console and they just don't have anything that's screaming at people to buy the system and I really don't think Persona 4 will be that game either. If it ends up being that I'll make a post on the forums and apologize for all of this.

When you start talking about "Nintendo haters" rather than the point you are putting forward it does come across as defensive.

To be honest I think the biggest issue with Vita is marketing. I see advertisements for the new mario, kid icarus, new 3ds titles, the 3ds etc. all over the TV. I dont think Ive seen a single TV spot for the Vita nevermind any of its titles. I'm not even sure whats out for it, although I have a friend who keeps on about wipeout.

That is not the way to launch a new handheld. You need to create a buzz and make people want it. Uncharted could be the next level in gaming but I didn't know it was out until I read this thread.

Having said that I've rarely touched a hand held since I owned my own car in 2004. As I no longer use public transport or ride shotgun it seems like a lot of money to play games on the toilet...

Ok then I apologize for being defensive. I can agree on the marketing since I haven't seen any ads for it anywhere either. The only ad I ever saw was one at Sony's press conference and that was for Japan only. Well as a portable system it's barely portable. The exact same problem I had with the PSP it's too big for me to bring anywhere. Why don't they ever try to make a smaller system. Then again Sony has been missing the whole point in how to succeed in the portable market for a while. Good battery life? Actually portable system? How about a giant system that only lasts a few hours. Also we are going to make a digital system that is missing some of the biggest games on the system. You would think someone would realize this. Well here's to hoping Sony learns soon since I already own the system and I want more games on it.

 

[pearcinator]

He shouldn't be thinking about what the PS Vita needs...he should be thinking about what the 3DS needs.

 

[Sheo_Dagana]

I love it when Miyamoto calls the kettle black. I do have to admit though, I'm a bit tired of waiting for new stuff to come out on my Vita. Silent Hill: Book of Memories got pushed back until who knows when. =/

 

[Strain42]

Miyamoto offers a valid criticism for a product that he also admits he thinks is a good product.

He also humbly admits that his own product had basically the same fault that they worked hard to get over.

The internet calls him a hypocrite and a troll.

Internet Logic?

 

[iceykitsune]

No, It need to have Persona 4 the Golden come out for it, then things will get better for the system as I will purchase one when the game is released, along with Wipeout 2048, Final Fantasy X HD, UMVC, Street Fighter X Tekken etc...I will also buy some PS1 games like FF7+8+9 and Alundra once the PS1 thing gets working.

Also, I heard rumors of a GTA game in development for the Vita, as well as Final Fantasy Type-O being ported to it for the English release, is this true?

That is the Vita's problem. It has no good amount of original games right now and the only game I hear people saying that is actually original coming out is Gravity Rush. You are saying you will get the Vita for a game that already exists for much cheaper elsewhere. Saying a remake will be the Vita's killer title is absolutely insane. Right now on the Vita there are 5 original titles total. Of those 5 only 3 are above a 4 star rating. Of those 3 one of them is a cheap indie title, one of them is a generic third person shooter who had it's entire dev staff laid off before the game was even released, and the other one apparently uses the touch screens as it's entire control method. After all of my experiences with the touch screens I cannot put into words how bad an idea that is. I don't know if the Vita really needs a price cut but I will say it needs actual original titles on it. There's no point in spending $250 plus a memory card just for another uncharted. Not to mention that remote play function for the Vita only works with Hustle Kings, MLB 12 The Show, and Wipeout 2048.

captcha: lunatic fridge...um is that in any of the Persona games? Usually the captcha is pretty spot on with these things.

Does there exist a single original IP on the 3DS? At all?

It's unfortunate, because IMO, the Vita came out of the gate with one of the strongest day 1 launch libraries I've ever seen on ANY new system.

So I'm guessing you got into gaming after the Playstation 2 was released. Heck, the Gamecube had a stronger launch library than the Vita. The Playstation One (original) had a stronger launch library. The games that the PS Vita launched with can be counted on both hands but with fingers to spare.

Hello, freak with more than 26 fingers.

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

Trolololo.

It is a good game. Just because Yahtzee doesn't like doesn't make it a bad game.

No, the fact that its a portable game that isn't fucking portable makes it a bad game.

Speak for yourself, I never used that thingy it came with and never had disconfort while playing it.
Heck, today I went to play Contra on DS and it was harder than Kid Icarus, because of the fucking D-pad.

Well then you're a Vulcan. The fact that the game was released in such a state where the vast majority of its users found it uncomfortable to play without the stand (as well as the fact that Nintendo recognized the control scheme was so bad they needed to include a stand) still indicates a major problem with the game.

might i ditect you to Metroid Prime Hunters which was praised for the EXACT SAME CONTROLS.

 

[General Vagueness]

apparently PS Vita has no games, thanks for keeping up the joke Sony

Miyamoto offers a valid criticism for a product that he also admits he thinks is a good product.

He also humbly admits that his own product had basically the same fault that they worked hard to get over.

The internet calls him a hypocrite and a troll.

Internet Logic?

more like people only reading the headline

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Spend less time talking about competitors and more time making games for your systems. Might actually give me a reason to dig them out of boxes and blow the dist off them.

 

[DRTJR]

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

I liked it, It had good writing that actually made me laugh a few times as well as the fact that it wasn't afraid to make fun of itself.

Why does everything Miyamoto say become news? He's not particularly insightful and he's incredibly boring.

Because he created some of the most successful games in the world, and having a ludicrous pedigree of games he either worked on or headed up.

I probably should have phrased it better; why is he still news worthy?

Same reasons that a lot of protestants still pay attention to the pope.

 

[SuperTrainStationH]

No, the fact that its a portable game that isn't fucking portable makes it a bad game.

Kid Icarus: Uprising isn't portable?

Gee, I wish someone informed me that before I spent the vast majority of my playtime on it beyond the confines of my home.

While using a stand.

No.

You don't need the stand to play the game.

The stand is just a piece of plastic that makes the 3DS more comfortable to use in general while you're at a table.

I rarely use it for any game and I sure as hell don't travel with it.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

People seem to forget that the Vita is a very capable multimedia player, albeit less so, now that they got rid of the SD card in favor of their own format (ironically the 3DS utilizes the SD cards now).

That isn't to say that the 3DS can't play media also, I was just under the impression that it wasn't intended for it.

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

Trolololo.

It is a good game. Just because Yahtzee doesn't like doesn't make it a bad game.

But...He didn't mention Yahtzee anywhere.