Miyamoto Thinks PS Vita Needs More Games

[bjj hero]

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This isn't really me being defensive I have arguments to what people are saying and I'm saying them. I never said the 3DS didn't sell though I get people saying that I was saying that from my statements about unoriginal titles. The problem is Sony doesn't own anything that much in high demand. Uncharted was a launch title and that obviously didn't do much and that's one of Sony's highest selling first party titles. Honestly Sony's own titles aren't that original anyway. The most popular ones I can think of are Uncharted and Gran Turismo and regardless of their quality they are just a racing game and a third person shooter. Software sells a console and they just don't have anything that's screaming at people to buy the system and I really don't think Persona 4 will be that game either. If it ends up being that I'll make a post on the forums and apologize for all of this.

When you start talking about "Nintendo haters" rather than the point you are putting forward it does come across as defensive.

To be honest I think the biggest issue with Vita is marketing. I see advertisements for the new mario, kid icarus, new 3ds titles, the 3ds etc. all over the TV. I dont think Ive seen a single TV spot for the Vita nevermind any of its titles. I'm not even sure whats out for it, although I have a friend who keeps on about wipeout.

That is not the way to launch a new handheld. You need to create a buzz and make people want it. Uncharted could be the next level in gaming but I didn't know it was out until I read this thread.

Having said that I've rarely touched a hand held since I owned my own car in 2004. As I no longer use public transport or ride shotgun it seems like a lot of money to play games on the toilet...

 

[80Maxwell08]

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This isn't really me being defensive I have arguments to what people are saying and I'm saying them. I never said the 3DS didn't sell though I get people saying that I was saying that from my statements about unoriginal titles. The problem is Sony doesn't own anything that much in high demand. Uncharted was a launch title and that obviously didn't do much and that's one of Sony's highest selling first party titles. Honestly Sony's own titles aren't that original anyway. The most popular ones I can think of are Uncharted and Gran Turismo and regardless of their quality they are just a racing game and a third person shooter. Software sells a console and they just don't have anything that's screaming at people to buy the system and I really don't think Persona 4 will be that game either. If it ends up being that I'll make a post on the forums and apologize for all of this.

When you start talking about "Nintendo haters" rather than the point you are putting forward it does come across as defensive.

To be honest I think the biggest issue with Vita is marketing. I see advertisements for the new mario, kid icarus, new 3ds titles, the 3ds etc. all over the TV. I dont think Ive seen a single TV spot for the Vita nevermind any of its titles. I'm not even sure whats out for it, although I have a friend who keeps on about wipeout.

That is not the way to launch a new handheld. You need to create a buzz and make people want it. Uncharted could be the next level in gaming but I didn't know it was out until I read this thread.

Having said that I've rarely touched a hand held since I owned my own car in 2004. As I no longer use public transport or ride shotgun it seems like a lot of money to play games on the toilet...

Ok then I apologize for being defensive. I can agree on the marketing since I haven't seen any ads for it anywhere either. The only ad I ever saw was one at Sony's press conference and that was for Japan only. Well as a portable system it's barely portable. The exact same problem I had with the PSP it's too big for me to bring anywhere. Why don't they ever try to make a smaller system. Then again Sony has been missing the whole point in how to succeed in the portable market for a while. Good battery life? Actually portable system? How about a giant system that only lasts a few hours. Also we are going to make a digital system that is missing some of the biggest games on the system. You would think someone would realize this. Well here's to hoping Sony learns soon since I already own the system and I want more games on it.

 

[pearcinator]

He shouldn't be thinking about what the PS Vita needs...he should be thinking about what the 3DS needs.

 

[Sheo_Dagana]

I love it when Miyamoto calls the kettle black. I do have to admit though, I'm a bit tired of waiting for new stuff to come out on my Vita. Silent Hill: Book of Memories got pushed back until who knows when. =/

 

[Strain42]

Miyamoto offers a valid criticism for a product that he also admits he thinks is a good product.

He also humbly admits that his own product had basically the same fault that they worked hard to get over.

The internet calls him a hypocrite and a troll.

Internet Logic?

 

[iceykitsune]

No, It need to have Persona 4 the Golden come out for it, then things will get better for the system as I will purchase one when the game is released, along with Wipeout 2048, Final Fantasy X HD, UMVC, Street Fighter X Tekken etc...I will also buy some PS1 games like FF7+8+9 and Alundra once the PS1 thing gets working.

Also, I heard rumors of a GTA game in development for the Vita, as well as Final Fantasy Type-O being ported to it for the English release, is this true?

That is the Vita's problem. It has no good amount of original games right now and the only game I hear people saying that is actually original coming out is Gravity Rush. You are saying you will get the Vita for a game that already exists for much cheaper elsewhere. Saying a remake will be the Vita's killer title is absolutely insane. Right now on the Vita there are 5 original titles total. Of those 5 only 3 are above a 4 star rating. Of those 3 one of them is a cheap indie title, one of them is a generic third person shooter who had it's entire dev staff laid off before the game was even released, and the other one apparently uses the touch screens as it's entire control method. After all of my experiences with the touch screens I cannot put into words how bad an idea that is. I don't know if the Vita really needs a price cut but I will say it needs actual original titles on it. There's no point in spending $250 plus a memory card just for another uncharted. Not to mention that remote play function for the Vita only works with Hustle Kings, MLB 12 The Show, and Wipeout 2048.

captcha: lunatic fridge...um is that in any of the Persona games? Usually the captcha is pretty spot on with these things.

Does there exist a single original IP on the 3DS? At all?

It's unfortunate, because IMO, the Vita came out of the gate with one of the strongest day 1 launch libraries I've ever seen on ANY new system.

So I'm guessing you got into gaming after the Playstation 2 was released. Heck, the Gamecube had a stronger launch library than the Vita. The Playstation One (original) had a stronger launch library. The games that the PS Vita launched with can be counted on both hands but with fingers to spare.

Hello, freak with more than 26 fingers.

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

Trolololo.

It is a good game. Just because Yahtzee doesn't like doesn't make it a bad game.

No, the fact that its a portable game that isn't fucking portable makes it a bad game.

Speak for yourself, I never used that thingy it came with and never had disconfort while playing it.
Heck, today I went to play Contra on DS and it was harder than Kid Icarus, because of the fucking D-pad.

Well then you're a Vulcan. The fact that the game was released in such a state where the vast majority of its users found it uncomfortable to play without the stand (as well as the fact that Nintendo recognized the control scheme was so bad they needed to include a stand) still indicates a major problem with the game.

might i ditect you to Metroid Prime Hunters which was praised for the EXACT SAME CONTROLS.

 

[General Vagueness]

apparently PS Vita has no games, thanks for keeping up the joke Sony

Miyamoto offers a valid criticism for a product that he also admits he thinks is a good product.

He also humbly admits that his own product had basically the same fault that they worked hard to get over.

The internet calls him a hypocrite and a troll.

Internet Logic?

more like people only reading the headline

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Spend less time talking about competitors and more time making games for your systems. Might actually give me a reason to dig them out of boxes and blow the dist off them.

 

[DRTJR]

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

I liked it, It had good writing that actually made me laugh a few times as well as the fact that it wasn't afraid to make fun of itself.

Why does everything Miyamoto say become news? He's not particularly insightful and he's incredibly boring.

Because he created some of the most successful games in the world, and having a ludicrous pedigree of games he either worked on or headed up.

I probably should have phrased it better; why is he still news worthy?

Same reasons that a lot of protestants still pay attention to the pope.

 

[SuperTrainStationH]

No, the fact that its a portable game that isn't fucking portable makes it a bad game.

Kid Icarus: Uprising isn't portable?

Gee, I wish someone informed me that before I spent the vast majority of my playtime on it beyond the confines of my home.

While using a stand.

No.

You don't need the stand to play the game.

The stand is just a piece of plastic that makes the 3DS more comfortable to use in general while you're at a table.

I rarely use it for any game and I sure as hell don't travel with it.

 

[Lovely Mixture]

People seem to forget that the Vita is a very capable multimedia player, albeit less so, now that they got rid of the SD card in favor of their own format (ironically the 3DS utilizes the SD cards now).

That isn't to say that the 3DS can't play media also, I was just under the impression that it wasn't intended for it.

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

Trolololo.

It is a good game. Just because Yahtzee doesn't like doesn't make it a bad game.

But...He didn't mention Yahtzee anywhere.

 

[Terramax]

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

This. Along with the fact that Mario Kart 7 is barely adequate. The 3DS have been out for how long? And even the Dreamcast had better games at launch than what the 3DS has now.

Get yourself together Nintendo.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Does there exist a single original IP on the 3DS? At all?

Dillon's Rolling Western, Mutant Mudds, Freakyforms, Pushmo, Sakura Samurai?

You've just proved the newer trope about Nintendo's lack of helping out the 3rd Party devs.I have no idea that the hell those games are or what they are about. And that's one of the major issues Nintendo has to fix.

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I just looked them up, they're all e-Shop games...
Are you trying to argue that e-Shop games are the only original IPs for the 3DS. Because if that's the case then my want for a 3DS just got even lower than it was before. And it was 'ass of objectified female in a mainstream rap video' low for me before.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

LoL they actually think Kid Icharus is a good game.

Trolololo.

It is a good game. Just because Yahtzee doesn't like doesn't make it a bad game.

You were the first and as of this posting, the only person to mention Yahtzee's name on this thread.

You just raged on someone for having the same opinion as Yahtzee. Need I say anything else?

 

[RipRoaringWaterfowl]

...the second round of the Handheld Wars....

Buh wha? It's the fourth round of the Handheld Wars, not the first! You know, the two times when Sega had handhelds (Game Gear, then Nomad) were the first two, when they were competing with Nintendo (GameBoy, then GameBoy Colour) and Atari (Lynx). Then Sega and Atari pretty much lost, dropped out, Nintendo had a generation off to completely dominate the handheld market, and now the current generations (7 & 8) Nintendo's having to duel Sony.

Oh well. It is the second round of the Handheld Wars of The Roses, betwixt the House of Nintendo and the House of Sony, so it is the second of something. The first war I have no name for yet.

 

[RipRoaringWaterfowl]

the vitas problem is that it does not play Pokemon.

Business idea!
Lets make a watch that you can play the pokemon games on!
Soon we're billionares!

Didn't Nintendo already kinda do that in the '80's?

 

[airrazor7]

It's unfortunate, because IMO, the Vita came out of the gate with one of the strongest day 1 launch libraries I've ever seen on ANY new system.

So I'm guessing you got into gaming after the Playstation 2 was released. Heck, the Gamecube had a stronger launch library than the Vita. The Playstation One (original) had a stronger launch library. The games that the PS Vita launched with can be counted on both hands but with fingers to spare.

Nice insult there considering you were objectively incorrect about your claims about the Vita.


Unless you happen to have more than 20 fingers.


And for your information I've been playing games long enough that I considered the 8 bit version of Sonic the Hedgehog visually incredible when I first saw it.

Why yes I do happen to have more than 20 fingers but that's besides the point. The PSV has more launch titles than I realized and I gave the Gamecube way too much credit. That's my fault for not doing the research. However that still does not break my point. PSV does not have the largest launch line-up and no one can really argue that the bulk of them are interesting. Yet that's only my opinion about how interesting they are. For all I know you and many others have fallen in love with every single game it launched with.

Also, why does everything in forum posts have to be an insult between people of deferring perspectives and opinions? Since you have been around as long as you claim, time and aging should have given you a calmer mind than being defensive on an internet forum. By the way, that's pretty cool that you mentioned Sonic. There isn't much popular talk of the blue-blur due the way the series has been handled in recent times. I grew up on the series. Sonic the Hedgehog was the first game I ever played and the Sonic 2 was the first game I owned on the 2nd version of the Sega Genesis.

 

[airrazor7]

Hello, freak with more than 26 fingers.

I used to use them for playing WOW. You can never have enough fingers playing that game.

 

[SuperTrainStationH]

It's unfortunate, because IMO, the Vita came out of the gate with one of the strongest day 1 launch libraries I've ever seen on ANY new system.

So I'm guessing you got into gaming after the Playstation 2 was released. Heck, the Gamecube had a stronger launch library than the Vita. The Playstation One (original) had a stronger launch library. The games that the PS Vita launched with can be counted on both hands but with fingers to spare.

Nice insult there considering you were objectively incorrect about your claims about the Vita.


Unless you happen to have more than 20 fingers.


And for your information I've been playing games long enough that I considered the 8 bit version of Sonic the Hedgehog visually incredible when I first saw it.

Why yes I do happen to have more than 20 fingers but that's besides the point. The PSV has more launch titles than I realized and I gave the Gamecube way too much credit. That's my fault for not doing the research. However that still does not break my point. PSV does not have the largest launch line-up and no one can really argue that the bulk of them are interesting. Yet that's only my opinion about how interesting they are. For all I know you and many others have fallen in love with every single game it launched with.

Also, why does everything in forum posts have to be an insult between people of deferring perspectives and opinions? Since you have been around as long as you claim, time and aging should have given you a calmer mind than being defensive on an internet forum. By the way, that's pretty cool that you mentioned Sonic. There isn't much popular talk of the blue-blur due the way the series has been handled in recent times. I grew up on the series. Sonic the Hedgehog was the first game I ever played and the Sonic 2 was the first game I owned on the 2nd version of the Sega Genesis.

Suggesting that I must be inexperienced with games and only started playing recently is something I don't take kindly, especially when you said that on the basis of something you mostly turned out to be incorrect about.

But whatever, no biggie.

I'm not saying the Vita had the best launch library ever, but compared to most systems I can think of there were many more decent selections than I can remember the Wii, DS, or PSP or the PS3 having.

They just weren't able to follow it up with consistent releases.