maybe this is all a dream?fix-the-spade said:
But yh i remember when people said this couldnt be done, well now whos laughing
Modder Proves That SimCity Works Offline
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But yh i remember when people said this couldnt be done, well now whos laughing
Well EA just ran out of all excuses. Too bad they couldn't be voted the worst company in 2013 because they can't repeat crowns after taking the 2012 crown. I mean EA really wants the gold for fuckary.
Edit: @ spade: People are not being persuaded to eat shit and like it, they are VOLUNTEERING to eat shit and when they find out that it actually tastes like shit, they throw a child temper tantrum. Those people never learn, keep feeding the beast, and ***** only after they get fucked over for not waiting one day.
Edit: @ spade: People are not being persuaded to eat shit and like it, they are VOLUNTEERING to eat shit and when they find out that it actually tastes like shit, they throw a child temper tantrum. Those people never learn, keep feeding the beast, and ***** only after they get fucked over for not waiting one day.
So where I went wrong is in assuming that EA would be competent at screwing over its customers.
Although does anyone who defended them with a 'this game in fundamentally an MMO' want so start backpedalling
Although does anyone who defended them with a 'this game in fundamentally an MMO' want so start backpedalling
Quoting just to say, nice avatar =DAgow95 said:
SO how long do you think it will take before EA asks Youtube to take that video down and sue the guy for infringing on some minute, stupid runaround legal babble?
*Cringe* Uuuugggh... *shudder* urrrhhh... don't know... if okay... to laugh at... Guuuurh!DVS BSTrD said:
OT: Was there ever any doubt to this, I mean seriously, EA (one of the biggest companies in gaming) can't make a SimCity game capable of being played offline!?
I'm not sure it's quite that bad, a lot of people will buy this game with only a very basic grasp of the technology surrounding it (or no grasp at all), so they have no idea what they're in for.GAunderrated said:
Those same people probably aren't up to speed with EA and the way it carries on, they probably believe the hype to a degree too (I know right?).
EA makes all the DRM sound like a service, they make it all sound friendly and desirable. I'd liken it to being promised a nice beef burger, then being served a cow pat and getting told that it's the same thing because it came from a cow and a beef burger is some impossible dream.
Sooner or later this will really bite EA (as it has with Blizzard and Diablo 3's financial problems), these people don't care about the tech, they just care that they bought a game they can't play.
Well, we all have to get a good laugh out of this. EA and Maxis were proven that what they say is bullshit. There will finally be a way for the all people who bought it to play with all the actual game features intact (Cheetah Speed for example), all they need to do is pirate a second copy when a pirated version comes out. This to me is one of the only times piracy is acceptable, besides the standard region restrictions. Good on the modder, and good for the people who actually invested money in this game.
Edit: I almost forgot, the roads outside the borders is brilliant. Further proof that the put in just terribly arbitrary city sizes. Why not be able to make one super massive city? Because then other players wouldn't have space to build? While this feature is nice, it shouldn't be compulsory.
Edit: I almost forgot, the roads outside the borders is brilliant. Further proof that the put in just terribly arbitrary city sizes. Why not be able to make one super massive city? Because then other players wouldn't have space to build? While this feature is nice, it shouldn't be compulsory.
I'm pretty sure the game, when limited to 1 city, does not require an internet connection. But a good 25% of the play is regional based, which means the servers need to keep track of what each city is doing. This requires an internet connection. One man simply debugging a single city plot with no regional interaction except for the very basic, as in already decided, starting interactions does not make the "game" playable offline. It only makes a piece of it playable, which is what EA should do, but that's a different discussion.
I don't think that it's piracy of you remove the DRM from your legally bought copy. I agree with the rest of what you said.Tanis said:
OT: I'm surprised it took this long. I wonder if EA will patch it out of the game and/or start banning people who use this method to play offline.
Piracy perhaps not but it would represent a clear violation of your Eula and a possible violation of various intellectual property laws. Having not read (nor do I particularly intend to) the Eula for Sim City I cannot say for certain but I'd wager they have a clause in the agreement about not reverse engineering or modifying the game.Doom972 said:
It'll be interesting to see how EA/Axis... ..no I'll leave that typo in, it made me giggle, react to this.
Do they:
A: Stick to their current line. Publicly stating a demonstrable falsehood.
B: Claim that the modder is lying, which can be easily proved or (as no doubt in this case) disproved.
C: Claim that they did not know this was possible, react with shock and pretend they are stunned at his skill.
D: Grudgingly release an off-line patch without the extra features and with nag screens for you to log in - oh and a different type of DRM.
E: Ignore it, but never mention the online requirement again.
Do they:
A: Stick to their current line. Publicly stating a demonstrable falsehood.
B: Claim that the modder is lying, which can be easily proved or (as no doubt in this case) disproved.
C: Claim that they did not know this was possible, react with shock and pretend they are stunned at his skill.
D: Grudgingly release an off-line patch without the extra features and with nag screens for you to log in - oh and a different type of DRM.
E: Ignore it, but never mention the online requirement again.
thank you for bringing a taste of sexism into this argument.DVS BSTrD said:
and fuck you ea. this guy who made the mod better be a fucking genius, because if he is a isn't, then EA is either filled with fools or lying bastards so high on ego that they won't own up to a major cock up.
two of my friends were talking about this today. One friend calls to Boycott EA, all gamers so they get the message. The other friend (who is going into school for gaming design) says that the workers at EA shouldn't suffer because of management's decisions.
I was two seconds away from wavering to my second friend's side when I realized something. As a trainer, if I gave them shitty service, no attention, and half assed work outs, they would look at me like a grew a second head if I said they couldn't leave me because it would make me lose money.
I really do not have that much sympathy for the designers at EA because that's asking me to have sympathy for someone who's constantly trying to screw me over after I legitimately pay for something, who asks to infringe on my rights as a customer to enhance their rights as the owner.
Fuck them. I don't deserve this treatment because I never pirated a game. And, oddly, I believe in owning the book, computer, tv, car, chair, weights, vacuum or whatever I pay for. I'm starting to think this PC master race thing is just spin so we all bend over and take it with a smile as the developers think up new ways to screw us.
I was two seconds away from wavering to my second friend's side when I realized something. As a trainer, if I gave them shitty service, no attention, and half assed work outs, they would look at me like a grew a second head if I said they couldn't leave me because it would make me lose money.
I really do not have that much sympathy for the designers at EA because that's asking me to have sympathy for someone who's constantly trying to screw me over after I legitimately pay for something, who asks to infringe on my rights as a customer to enhance their rights as the owner.
Fuck them. I don't deserve this treatment because I never pirated a game. And, oddly, I believe in owning the book, computer, tv, car, chair, weights, vacuum or whatever I pay for. I'm starting to think this PC master race thing is just spin so we all bend over and take it with a smile as the developers think up new ways to screw us.
As much as I saw this coming, I'm surprised it took this long.
And now, I'm going to sit back with my drink and bucket of popcorn and await the EA apologists, hoping they show up to chime in. I can not wait to see them attempt to spin this news into something "good" for EA.
Perhaps something like: "See? See?! EA supports the modding community! They're still the good guys in all this!"
Or maybe: "Now, when EA said, 'requires an online connection to function', what they really meant was, it requires a broken online connection to motivate the gaming community to patch in an offline mode for us. They're just trying to get the gaming community interested in programming!"
[sub](more likely, they'll just say something negative or derogatory about Valve, Activision, or Ubisoft instead)[/sub]
And now, I'm going to sit back with my drink and bucket of popcorn and await the EA apologists, hoping they show up to chime in. I can not wait to see them attempt to spin this news into something "good" for EA.
Perhaps something like: "See? See?! EA supports the modding community! They're still the good guys in all this!"
Or maybe: "Now, when EA said, 'requires an online connection to function', what they really meant was, it requires a broken online connection to motivate the gaming community to patch in an offline mode for us. They're just trying to get the gaming community interested in programming!"
[sub](more likely, they'll just say something negative or derogatory about Valve, Activision, or Ubisoft instead)[/sub]
This lying scares the fuck out of me. If the "top video publisher" can boldface lie to our faces and pull shit off like this, I wonder how many other things we're lied to about that we depend on a daily basis.
Really? Have you not seen how every single thread that could even remotely be related back to EA has gone over the last few months? Any "EA apologist" left around here is probably going to just keep their mouth shut just so they don't get crucified for being worse than Satanic Hitler eating babies for breakfast.Vigormortis said:
I don't even like EA and I've started defending them lately, because to be quite frank, all of the haters are actually worse at this point. Yes, even worse than their stupid always-online DRM that was only there so they could arbitrarily limit the city-size for pushing multi-player. Yes, even worse than whatever they may or may not have done to Bioware. Yes, even worse than microtransactions and co-op in Dead Space.
It could just as easily have been a guy. "Poor [X], brought down in his prime because his malformed splooge didn't make it into the trashcan where it belonged."Dumoras said:
OT: Good to see EA being shown to be the lying assholes they are. It's just too bad the primary consumer base, uneducated kids and casuals, don't understand that their purchases are supporting terrible practices.