Thing is, it hasn't been cracked yet. So there are no pirates yet. Either this will convince EA they don't need drm anymore or it will convince EA that the DRM works and they will continue doing it.evilneko said:
Modder Proves That SimCity Works Offline
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Pretty much my sentiments exactly. I was just thinking "Well that didn't take long."gigastar said:
Buuut I'm sure we all saw this coming sooner rather than later. Guess all the optimists holding out hope that maybe EA was just misinformed, and that they weren't just straight-up lying will be disappointed.
For shame, EA. For shame. If you have any left, that is.
OK.
Just what some amongst us have been expecting to see eventually... including me. Not that soon, though.
This disqualifies a lot of EA/Maxis statements and exposes them as marketingspeak and lies.
I'm in a bit of a shitty place here. I really want to play Sim City, but I'd like to stay the hell away from EA/Origin, if at all possible. I only use my Origin credentials (which I got when my EA login got... 'upgraded') to log onto EA forums. I really, really want to admire Lucy Bradshaw, but that's becoming less and less appealing, seemingly every day. I hate it.
When I can finally patch the game to play offline with little or neglectable hassle, I'll go and buy it. I hope I can eventually also gain complete control over saving/loading game progress. That didn't seem to be such an outrageous demand a couple of weeks back.
Just what some amongst us have been expecting to see eventually... including me. Not that soon, though.
This disqualifies a lot of EA/Maxis statements and exposes them as marketingspeak and lies.
I'm in a bit of a shitty place here. I really want to play Sim City, but I'd like to stay the hell away from EA/Origin, if at all possible. I only use my Origin credentials (which I got when my EA login got... 'upgraded') to log onto EA forums. I really, really want to admire Lucy Bradshaw, but that's becoming less and less appealing, seemingly every day. I hate it.
When I can finally patch the game to play offline with little or neglectable hassle, I'll go and buy it. I hope I can eventually also gain complete control over saving/loading game progress. That didn't seem to be such an outrageous demand a couple of weeks back.
Isn't it nice when a company assumes their customers are all criminals out to steal their product, and then lie to your face about it not once but twice! No wait that's not nice it's terrible. Why on earth does anyone buy their shitty games? There are so many other choices out there without supporting EA's terrible bullshit lying and business practices.
When EA gives you a ban, it's a full ban. everything associated with your EA account - games, DLC, Origin account, etc becomes inaccessible. They banned people for less. And yes, they can monitor this sort of thing. Hopefully, they'll just leave it alone and let people play SimCity the way people played it for years.RJ 17 said:You know what the beauty of playing a game offline is? You can't be banned no matter what you do.Doom972 said:
Serious question: without having some EA agent walk in on you to catch you playing the game offline, how are they going to know?Doom972 said:When EA gives you a ban, it's a full ban. everything associated with your EA account - games, DLC, Origin account, etc becomes inaccessible. They banned people for less. And yes, they can monitor this sort of thing. Hopefully, they'll just leave it alone and let people play SimCity the way people played it for years.RJ 17 said:You know what the beauty of playing a game offline is? You can't be banned no matter what you do.Doom972 said:
If I understood correctly, the modder first ran the game as he normally would, which means that the game ran with Origin in the background and checked in with the EA servers, and initiated the debug mode after that. At this point, the program has internet access and can (and probably does) send gameplay data to EA. One way to avoid this would be to disconnect from the internet or block internet access for Origin and SimCity - but that would probably cause the game to stop working (maybe not, it's worth a check). Another way to avoid this is not permitted for discussion on this forum.RJ 17 said:Serious question: without having some EA agent walk in on you to catch you playing the game offline, how are they going to know?Doom972 said:When EA gives you a ban, it's a full ban. everything associated with your EA account - games, DLC, Origin account, etc becomes inaccessible. They banned people for less. And yes, they can monitor this sort of thing. Hopefully, they'll just leave it alone and let people play SimCity the way people played it for years.RJ 17 said:You know what the beauty of playing a game offline is? You can't be banned no matter what you do.Doom972 said:
Can I have some?MPerce said:
The bathtub that I made at launch just ran out.
Seriously this is the train wreck that just keeps giving.
I don't understand your comment about the failure of logical criticism. My thinking is that it's simple application of past experience to current/future expectations. I'd figure it's in the same vein as knowing not to touch a hot stove from past experiences. Or training dogs. Eventually they learn what actions result in treats (playing dead, rolling over, etc.) and what actions result in rolled up newspapers to the nose (shredding shoes, peeing on the rug, lying on tax returns). EA has had so much fuckupery that people are getting trained to expecting crap whenever dealing with EA.
Yeah it may not have been entirely necessary for them to go server-side, but they at least bothered to code it instead of pretending to and hoping nobody would actually check. Watching this all unfold is exciting purely because you get to wake up in the morning and see what coding corners they cut next.RatherDull said:
I love modders. They're like the people who contribute to Newgrounds. They do these things for us and they don't even get paid, generally. I think...a great load of modders should accept a challenge of mine: Use your talents to actually create a game, license it, and sell it...with as few bugs as possible. Prove to us that the companies are TRULY talking out of their collective asses. I'm not asking for you guys to become a multi-national corporation. Just show these guys how it's done.
Is that why the downloaded version of SimCity on amazon is still #1 since the games release? I think there are just as many dumb people on PC as there are on console.Desert Punk said:
Btw sorry if this sounds hostile. I am mainly a PC player but I SMH hard when I see line up to get fucked because they couldn't see all the signs.
Fair enough.Desert Punk said:I didnt say there werent a lot of stupid peopleGAunderrated said:
and their numbers are somewhere around 500k players last I saw, a far sight shorter than the 6 million somem PC players Diablo 3 got.
Also what is SMH?
I'm curious what their sales were compared to the previous simcity? That would be more of a measuring mark than Diablo 3 which had insane hype.
Oh SMH means Smack My Head
Sadly I don't think that include digital sales only physical. I would love to be wrong but I have a feeling that the game still sold well compared to its predicessorDesert Punk said:
I wonder if anyone was paying attention to the fact that all of his region calculations were broken...
Like.. all of them.
For a moment there he was producing somewhere along the lines of billions of pollution, which i've never seen even in a coal mining town.
He pulled the client offline. Locally? Things happened. Regionally? It was b0rked.
Like.. all of them.
For a moment there he was producing somewhere along the lines of billions of pollution, which i've never seen even in a coal mining town.
He pulled the client offline. Locally? Things happened. Regionally? It was b0rked.
Yes but being a top seller in boxed PC games isn't saying much since PC from 2006 on thrived mostly digital. Also digitally the developers and publishers get more $$$ per purchase than retail. I'm not saying that SimCity for sure is selling as good or better than the previous one but I have a feeling they will.Desert Punk said:
I don't want the region stuff. To me, it's actually the region stuff that gimps the game, which in previous versions was perfectly enjoyable with a single city not connected to other cities.sneakypenguin said:
