Modern Warfare 3: Why does everyone hate it?

[Tuesday Night Fever]

I liked MW3, and the other two Modern Warfares as well. But then, I actually legitimately and unironically enjoy Michael Bay movies. Not all the time, mind you... but sometimes I just want a movie where I can turn my brain off for two hours and watch shit explode while I gorge myself on popcorn. I can fully acknowledge that they're generally not "good" movies (well, except The Rock... that was actually pretty decent)... but it's still a guilty pleasure of mine.

So while the campaign may be short, I don't really feel like I was ripped off. It took me about 8 hours to get through the single player on Veteran difficulty. I paid $60 for the game. If an average Michael Bay movie is about two hours, it would cost me roughly $80 to see four of them in theaters (assuming I throw in a small drink and small popcorn for each). So for mindless, explosion-filled entertainment, I actually got a reasonable deal. Especially since the multiplayer will add even more hours onto that whenever I happen to be bored enough to play it.

I fully admit I don't understand the fanboyism and anti-fanboyism surrounding the game, though. The way I see it, live and let live. If you like it, cool. Play it, enjoy it, have a good time. If you don't like it, cool. Play something else, enjoy that instead, and have a good time.

 

[RUINER ACTUAL]

I just hate the campers/cheap players. I like the MW story. Fuck Treyarch.

treyarch made the first cod without it there wouldn't of being MW1 MW2 or 3.. plus modern warfare 1 and 2 graphics are peasant like to black ops.. nothing is wrong with black ops.. in MW you get cross map tubes people that think they quickscope but they just press 2 buttons in quick rotation hoping to get a kill while there screen is black

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOA!

Infinity Ward made the original Call of Duty. Remember that. NOT Treyarch.

Theres many things wrong with Blops.

Really?

whats wrong with black ops other then QS'ing.. but even still people on MW2 and 3 most can't QS they just button bash the zooming in and shooting button and get kills every 7th shot then brag saying AWWW DID ANY ONE SEE MY QUICKSCOPE!! but realy it was always going to happen after that many shots... and don't say black ops has campers coz MW2 has the same amount if not more campers

First of all, do you acknowledge how wrong you just were there? Treyarch only makes CoDs to make Activision more money. IW hates Treyarch.

I only played Blops for 2 or 3 hours, but from what I can remember: shitty campy maps, OP AK74, and every other weapon feeling like shit.

 

[TehCookie]

It's quite obvious why people hate it, they have a different taste in games, or they are just haters. You know the things you like about it? Those are probably the exact same things I hate about it. Opinions, how do they work?

 

[mau5trap]

I beat the campaign in 2 and a half hours, that's why.

Either you're exaggerating, or you can manipulate time.

I bet it in three and a half hours, it's realy short but that's in game time it;s on the main menu

 

[Don Savik]

Oh boy. This post. AGAIN. If I had a nickel.....*rolls eyes and storms off*

Anyways..... I beat the campaign because I borrow my friends xbox to speed through them. Not worth 60 bucks, I'm sorry. Its fun for a while, I like the horde modes, but its just a cash grab! Doesn't anyone see this? Yes you can have fun with it but we can strive for more interesting and unique games!

Also the new lighting effect make the piss poor textures even more noticeable. Black Ops slid by, but this game looks pretty fucking ugly at some moments. Also the multiplayer unlock system is a lot more restrictive than Black Ops.

Another thing I thought Cod 4 did well was realism, but Modern Warfare 2 quickly blew that out of the water. You really think a couple of russians can storm the white house? Or in MW3, you honestly think that RUSSIA can park like, 1000 boats ON THE COAST OF NEW YORK without...idk....the US Navy blowing them the fuck up? My point is that I think the creators of the sequels played on the aspects of the game that would sell the most copies, not what made the original truly great.

 

[BlackWidower]

biggest lols to the Metacritic bombers who all write "I haven't even bought MW3 and i think it's the worst game of all time"

Are people actually doing that!? HA! Morons!

Well, I for one don't know why people hate Modern Warfare 3. But I'm sure I'll find out when Yahtzee reviews it, and I'll just copy-paste everything he says about it into my own brain, so I don't need to play it to have an opinion on it.

 

[Windcaler]

I wouldnt say I hate MW3 or the MW series but I definately dislike it. I have to admit that I havnt played MW3 and I dont intend to. For me it began with MW2 when we got a campaign that lasted slightly longer then the time it takes to make a cup of tea and that made no sense. However the part that really sealed the deal was that MW2 made Russian and US intelligence operatives/military personel out to be incompetant to drive its story and Im sorry but I have a huge problem with that

Then there was the multiplayer that was just bad with overpowered kill streaks and all sorts of nonsense going on. This began my dislike of the MW series. Then came black ops which addressed very few of my concerns. I only played black ops for maybe an hour in multiplayer and through the first mission in the campaign but I determined that the MW series was no longer for me and I was fine with that. I had bad company 2 for my multiplayer military shooter

Now comes MW3 and while I havnt played it Ive watched some videos of it and I see some problematic things. First off, I think the games just ugly and you can tell that consoles are stressing pretty hard to pump out enough graphic fidelity to make the game work as is. My second problem is the criminally small Field of view which cant be anymore then 65 degrees. For me, this narrow FOV makes me feel sick if I watch it for more then 20 minutes at a time. In RL you would have to be wearing goggles to get that narrow of an FoV but the fact that it makes me feel ill while watching it is just a deal breaker. Third there are just Kill streaks that have no place in the game once again. The games supposed to be about shooting people, not hiding in a corner till you can activate your juggernaught suit.

If you want a slow paced run and gun style shooter then I guess it works but its not for me. If you like it, enjoy it. Im all for people playing what they enjoy

 

[Hiphophippo]

Shrug. To each their own. I've greatly enjoyed the single player in all of them. It's so ridiculous and over the top that I don't mind it being linear as hell. It's basically a railroad of explosions and guns for a few hours. It works.

The multiplayer?

Lolno. I'll pass.

You really think a couple of russians can storm the white house? Or in MW3, you honestly think that RUSSIA can park like, 1000 boats ON THE COAST OF NEW YORK without...idk....the US Navy blowing them the fuck up? My point is that I think the creators of the sequels played on the aspects of the game that would sell the most copies, not what made the original truly great.

No, I don't think that. But I also don't care. It's ridiculous and I loved it. I don't get into realism in games personally, though I can see where people that do could draw contention with MW since it takes stabs at pretending to be realistic.

 

[klausaidon]

and c) lolololol its copy and paste HURR

Is this the only way you know how to dismiss a valid point? By mocking people without actually providing any argument?

How about I provide a valid argument? The whole "It's copy and paste" thing is idiotic, at best. Most games reuse models at some level. Even Battlefield, I'm sure. From what I've seen, there is only one building in MW3 that kinda, sorta looks like that one building in Pipeline, and suddenly everyone is saying "OMG they are so lazy! Why are they charging 60$ for this!?!?"
which deserves nothing more than a facepalm. This is a common practice in game design. Take an old model, and re-skin it. There is no point in reinventing the wheel, as they say. If the model you need already exists, just use that, no sense in remaking it. Same goes with coding.

 

[Wevet]

I simply hate MW in general, because I've found it's built on anger. The campaigns may be fun, but everyone buys them for the multiplayer in the end. I have talked to many people, and evaluated it myself, and NOBODY has fun playing that game long term. I cut myself off, because every time I played it just ended in me being angry. I have heard similar stories from a LOT of people. So I just hate it because of it's lineage, but I will give it a try at some point.

 

[Torrasque]

I beat the campaign in 2 and a half hours, that's why.

Either you're exaggerating, or you can manipulate time.

Or he played on the easiest difficulty?

OP: I enjoy MW3, and even I can tell that it is copypasta MW2 with some new tricks. Do I care? A little bit, but I still have fun, so what does it matter? Do I hold it up to the light and compare it against all the other games that I have? Fuck no.
I will never compare MW3 to Fire Emblem, Ogre Battle 64, Metroid Prime, and many other games that I love. MW3 is good at what it does: appeasing the masses. Just like Fire Emblem is good at difficulty curves, and Metroid Prime is good at making you visit every room 5 times, yet still not seeming drawn out.

So let people hate MW3, their complaints fall on deaf ears, since I still enjoy the game.
But please don't compare it to Skyrim... You mind as well compare Lord of the Rings to Star Wars.

 

[RexoftheFord]

Bit late on this post, but I'll leave my input anyway. Maybe the reason everyone hates MW3 isn't cause it's popular or just a rehash. Maybe they hate it, because it's genuinely a shitty game. And considering the titles that've been released this year, it has very little shine to prominently display itself with pride. Let me explain.

Single Player: Short, incoherent mess of story, AI that will kill everything for you, straight lines, slapped together. To be honest, at the end of the campaign, I was wondering why I was in the areas I was in. Why was I in Africa? How about that large mansion? Wait, why did they capture the Russian President? Who is Yuri? Who is Frost? Where did Frost go? I've forgotten the game. Then again, easy to forget a 3-4 hour game on its hardest difficulty.

Graphics: Brown brown brown. SNES games have less capabilities but better aesthetic. This game looks like Morrowind, but without the fantastical whimsy of a RPG setting.

Sounds: Guns sounds like you're shooting BBs. Not bullets. Voice acting is stale, boring.

Story: See single player above.

Multiplayer: You'd think a game that prides itself on its multiplayer would have had more work put into this. Maybe some dedicated servers. Fine tuning the spawn system. Working on coherent and workable map design. But, this is not the case. Maps are large, but are so cluttered with buildings, they seem tiny. In a word, claustrophobic. Dedicated servers? Nowhere to be seen on consoles. Same P2P system, which presents a problem. Lag lag lag. People complained about being shot around walls in BO, but this game has that problem ten fold. Connection is everything in this game, and it reminds me of GoW2 where host wins. Oh another problem with P2P. Dashboarding. Everyone takes a loss with this. Hitboxes are off. Blast shield perk is broken. Doesn't protect from any type of explosive. Considering a person without it can tank grenades and rockets, it seems unnecessary. Oh, commando's also built into the game. The spawn system is atrocious. You will be spawned behind immediately after you've killed someone, more often than not.

Overall, game's just shit. And that's why people hate it. And considering much better games like Arkham City, Skyrim, or even older games like Deus Ex have been released this year, why waste your money on this one? Or if you've already bought it, why not go trade it in immediately for a better game?

 

[Twilight_guy]

Hipster Escapist... hates games that are popular!

Gamers just like to hate popular things. It's a part of the culture.

 

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Hipster Escapist... hates games that are popular!

Gamers just like to hate popular things. It's a part of the culture.

that part of the game culture sucks.

 

[Conza]

Well i bought Modern Warfare 3, and i'm halfway through the game right now, and i'm throughly enjoying myself, and most of all i'm having fun.
Now i've seen thread after thread of people sledging crap at it, all because it's a) a sequel, b) not superior graphically to BF3 (which has to be the most pathetic argument of all time) and c) lolololol its copy and paste HURR

What is it with fanboys having to bash everything, i mean have we reached a point where we are all cynical to the everything?

So anyway, i think Modern Warfare 3 is good for a whole plethora of reasons. i mean for one it finally balances it's fucking veteran difficulty. spec-ops is unbelievable ketchup sauce, and the multiplayers the multiplayer for which i have no problem with.

But it's the BF3 fanboys, and everyone else that is whining about a service you don't have to actually sign up for, nor pay for it, and thats why it's shit? i mean come on BF3's biggest falling point is using a fricking web browser to access multiplayer games. What is up with that?

anyway i think people should just be a little more lighter on the criticism.

biggest lols to the Metacritic bombers who all write "I haven't even bought MW3 and i think it's the worst game of all time"

Look, there is no reason, in the world, to buy MW3, when BF3 exists. End.

EA is 'The Bad' but Activision is just 'The Ugly'. And while that is literally true, when it comes to this game, they just produce this mass market piece of shit, that really is copy and paste, and I don't like it, so many others feel as I do, its just another fucking shooter, please just don't, and we want it to stop, frankly, that's why we moan on about it.

You've done a dis-service to the gaming community by buying it, if you must, finish it, but atleast trade it in toward BF3, a superior shooting experience.

Also really? "i'm throughly enjoying myself, and most of all i'm having fun." No repetition there? I can enjoy and not have fun? Or vice-versa?

Fundementally, this game is appealing to meatheads, yes its a stereotype, but its one that holds true, its just mindless crap that could've been on a N64 its just that sophisticated.

Fair enough?

 

[Right Hook]

As someone who doesn't play BF3 or MW3 I am in a bit of a unique position to be a little less unbiased than some. The problem I have with MW3 is it doesn't innovate at all, which is fine I suppose but personally I get annoyed seeing the same game rehashed year after year and it still being a top seller. How discouraging must that be for game companies actually taking risks and trying new things? COD has become the Madden of the FPS genre and that's okay for some people. Another reason I don't necessarily like it is because I don't think it deserves its massive fan base, obviously I'm wrong but a lot of COD just seems to be built up hype and the bandwagon effect. A lot of girls who I've never seen play any other game play COD just for the attention. so it isn't the most dedicated fan base out there. It just adds to the idea that stagnation is okay, as long as it sells well. They keep pumping out Transformers movies when they could spend time and money making better things, simply because it is profitable. It's getting to that point with COD in my opinion, it's just a bad business practice. Oh and because Gears of War 3 is so L33t d00d OMG, COD is for n00bs man!!! (jk on that last sentence)

 

[Popadoo]

I think it's mainly because the series makes so much money with minimal effort, while other developers are struggling even though they're working harder and making games that are, in most cases, better.

 

[VehemensDecor]

I hate it because it is just a re-skinned Modern Warfare 2. It shouldn't be a game, it should be an expansion pack. Anyone that buys it, to me, is wasting their money.

 

[spartandude]

Hipster Escapist... hates games that are popular!

Gamers just like to hate popular things. It's a part of the culture.

I hate you for sayin that, it is quite possibly the worst argument people sat in MW2/3/Black Op's deffence.

alot of people who dont like the new CoD's also like CoD4 MW, Halo games, Battlefield, Mario, The Elder Scrolls, Zelda etc
all very popular games

anyway the reason i dont like any Call of Duty games after CoD 4 is that in world at war the Maps were shit tbh, and all the ones after that i hate the war the guns handle, they're all too accurate to fast and sound shit not to mention the unbalanced gameplay

 

[Woodsey]

Because we don't all have to like the same fucking things.

You like being shown explosions and not being allowed to open doors, whilst having every inch of your "playing" experience scripted; I like to be able to actually do stuff in my games.

And you know what? That's A-O-Fucking-Kay.