Monster Hunter Tri
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Good point. I probably take his comments more seriously on games like this because I do have limited game time; I work 40 hours a week at my main job and put another 20-30 hours in on my writing career. So what free time I have for games...which are my principal hobby!...requires careful weight and consideration.NamesAreHardToPick said:
Also, I played (well, tried to) the last couple MH games and found them to be rather tedious. My wife loves them to death however, and has amassed a huge number of hours and burned out a PSP on them.
Monsters can and do hurt eachother, FlameSpeak. You can't tell because you can't see their health. Just wait til Rathalos kills Rathian, then you see. (happens a lot in pre-titles)
Like all reviews I thought they were pretty bang on in listing some of the game's flaws. This was my first leap into the Monster Hunter foray and while I didn't quite spend 10 hours doing the tutorial quests, it does take some getting used to. Gathering, sharpening, getting committed to heavy weapons all take some time to get used to, especially with the game's early crappy weapons.
Yahtzee's job here isn't to tell you why a game is perfect and why you should buy it, every other magazine including the massively corrupt Famitsu does that (giving this game a 40 lol). However, if you find merit in the game, and enough depth, and you switched to Great Sword instead of using SnS early on you'd find that MH3 is a great game. Level 55 now and still going!
Yahtzee's job here isn't to tell you why a game is perfect and why you should buy it, every other magazine including the massively corrupt Famitsu does that (giving this game a 40 lol). However, if you find merit in the game, and enough depth, and you switched to Great Sword instead of using SnS early on you'd find that MH3 is a great game. Level 55 now and still going!
He really didn't raise any of the real issues with the game, Justin. Many of which would've made hilarious jokes. Also, SnS is playable. If done right.
For the people commenting on a "10-hour tutorial". No, the tutorial isn't ten hours long. The "tutorial" is half an hour, tops. This is because there's so many core concepts to cover and nobody seems to read the instruction manual.
This has never been about Yahtzee not liking a game. It's about him playing almost none of the game at all, making the game seem like it is exclusively about gathering supplies and not hunting monsters as the game title would flat-out tell you. He actually flat-out says that it's NOT about hunting monsters.
Again, calling for the escapist to review their contract with this clown. They paid him to do a job, he didn't do it.
For the people commenting on a "10-hour tutorial". No, the tutorial isn't ten hours long. The "tutorial" is half an hour, tops. This is because there's so many core concepts to cover and nobody seems to read the instruction manual.
This has never been about Yahtzee not liking a game. It's about him playing almost none of the game at all, making the game seem like it is exclusively about gathering supplies and not hunting monsters as the game title would flat-out tell you. He actually flat-out says that it's NOT about hunting monsters.
Again, calling for the escapist to review their contract with this clown. They paid him to do a job, he didn't do it.
I bought Monster Hunter Tri and I have to say I had a similar experience to Yahtzee's. I had just spent the better part of an hour alternating between plinking away at the monster and dying when I finally killed the darn thing. It was the happiest i had been since I started the game.
Than I saw the next mission. this time I had to capture the same dang monster which took me so long to just kill. I wasn't thrilled, but I figured I should try to beat it at least. So I started the mission. I died the first few times, but I knew when he was close to death and I started to learn his routes of escape. So I finally got the patterns down and took the 5 minutes it takes to set the trap, and I finally caught the monster in it, and I figured I had it finally beat. Since the mission didn't end I immediately started whacking it with my sword. The dam thing stayed down for about 10 seconds and then popped up and continued on its merry way.
At that point I placed my controller down and turned off my Wii. I could stand the weapon degradation and the constant need to sharpen, I could stand the need to run off and eat something every time a monster lightly tapped you, and I could even stand the fact that it took a half hour to take down the dang monster, and I could stand the lack of monster health bars. The last straw was the fact that the capture system was mindless guesswork that would cost you a half hour every time you dinged the dam thing 1 time too many or had dinged it 1 time too few. This was the point where the game felt less challenging and more like the game designers being cruel.
Than I saw the next mission. this time I had to capture the same dang monster which took me so long to just kill. I wasn't thrilled, but I figured I should try to beat it at least. So I started the mission. I died the first few times, but I knew when he was close to death and I started to learn his routes of escape. So I finally got the patterns down and took the 5 minutes it takes to set the trap, and I finally caught the monster in it, and I figured I had it finally beat. Since the mission didn't end I immediately started whacking it with my sword. The dam thing stayed down for about 10 seconds and then popped up and continued on its merry way.
At that point I placed my controller down and turned off my Wii. I could stand the weapon degradation and the constant need to sharpen, I could stand the need to run off and eat something every time a monster lightly tapped you, and I could even stand the fact that it took a half hour to take down the dang monster, and I could stand the lack of monster health bars. The last straw was the fact that the capture system was mindless guesswork that would cost you a half hour every time you dinged the dam thing 1 time too many or had dinged it 1 time too few. This was the point where the game felt less challenging and more like the game designers being cruel.
Actually, the above mentioned post does make a good point. I do not recall capturing a monster being properly explained.
Capturing a monster requires three steps:
1: Weaken It!
A good sign that a monster is weak enough to capture is when it starts limping. If you plan on being super awesome at capturing, there is a skill that will cause the monster's DOT on the map to start blinking when they are capturable.
2: Trap It!
This is pretty straight forward.
3: Tranq It!
This is the key part I do not recall ever being mentioned in the game. When the monster is trapped, throw Trang Bombs at its face. An average of two will do it.
THERE YOU GO! One Captured Monster.
Capturing a monster requires three steps:
1: Weaken It!
A good sign that a monster is weak enough to capture is when it starts limping. If you plan on being super awesome at capturing, there is a skill that will cause the monster's DOT on the map to start blinking when they are capturable.
2: Trap It!
This is pretty straight forward.
3: Tranq It!
This is the key part I do not recall ever being mentioned in the game. When the monster is trapped, throw Trang Bombs at its face. An average of two will do it.
THERE YOU GO! One Captured Monster.
If this is the case, why do you spend time writing seven paragraphs defending MH3 instead of studying psychology? that sounds to me like an interesting job! Also, if you haven't heard people write "minnets", "lawng", "1eleven1", or "Secksy Hawt", than I note that you haven't seen the irritance of what I call "The Real Internet" (dun dun duuuun). or the majority of people I've encountered on Halo 3. That's why I don't play Halo 3.SemajChaos said:
Also, why do you think I'm basing my oppinion on Yahtzee? Nobody takes him seriously when he says a game is bad (except for Jericho, that game sucks). I just personally don't think MH3 is interesting. Maybe it's because I don't like fantasy games, or fantasy media to be exact. I don't like games that involve elves, knights, castles, dragons, orcs, or anything like that.
Why the hell is everyone saying this game's bad because of a 10 hour tutorial. First off some fanboy idiot told yahtzee the tutorial was 10 hours second is that the tutorials like 30minutes-1hour! That's barely anything by most rpg standards.
I'm even more pissed on the fence players aren't buying because they ACTUALLY thought it was 10 hours of tutorial.
I'm even more pissed on the fence players aren't buying because they ACTUALLY thought it was 10 hours of tutorial.
I guess you could say it's a bit more like Beowulf than Lord of the Rings. I myself just can't really get into those themes. If you can, however, I guess you already have the game and may or may not be willing to write 7 paragraphs defending the game while unsuccessfully trying to sound like their oppinion matters. I appreciate anyone who likes the game and hasn't wasted 20 minutes on a fourm trying to argue.Chibz said:
Lmao
Yahtzee, if it takes you 10 hours to do the tutorial, then you suck at video games. I was fighting that first boss you fought within an hour.
And you do know the wiimote controls are optional, right? You can use an actual controller.
Yahtzee, if it takes you 10 hours to do the tutorial, then you suck at video games. I was fighting that first boss you fought within an hour.
And you do know the wiimote controls are optional, right? You can use an actual controller.
Oh man. A few days ago I mentioned Yahtzee's review to a friend of mine who owns a Wii.
My god that was a mistake.
He started shouting like a berserk madman. I could see his eyes red with fanatical wrath. I was afraid for my life.
I guess I know how Yahtzee feels like.
My god that was a mistake.
He started shouting like a berserk madman. I could see his eyes red with fanatical wrath. I was afraid for my life.
I guess I know how Yahtzee feels like.
Goodness me I had fun reading this humongous pile of fan rage.
Even though I did enjoy MH3 Yahtzee, I totally agree with the points you make. Why cant people just chill out and not get all sweaty and annoyed whenever somebody criticizes something they love, when it most certainly has flaws.
It's his opinion, off to your Capcom forums fanboys now.
Even though I did enjoy MH3 Yahtzee, I totally agree with the points you make. Why cant people just chill out and not get all sweaty and annoyed whenever somebody criticizes something they love, when it most certainly has flaws.
It's his opinion, off to your Capcom forums fanboys now.
His opinion is flawed, he never actually played the game. Released a review where he never talked about the bread & butter of the MH3 series. It's not even about fanboyism, it's about him never addressing real flaws and actually pulling some out of his imagination.AndrewOfHell said:
Out of the what like, 12 other games that got a perfect score? Look at the list.UTDC.Justin said:
Monster Hunter 3 sold more copies then MW2 in the UK. I kind of makes me wonder what the difference between the UK and US audience is.
I know he has to force himself to play these games but really the 4 player online is the biggest part of the series and its like a whole other game he never even got to see.
Im not saying yahtzee should't hate it, if he hated the game he should say so. But I do feel like he turned a lot of people away from a good game. Either way, the point of the game is to take legendary monsters on with a group of friends. I dont know if he knew that or not, I cant tell how serious he is after the "item collection endgame" part of his video.
I kind of feel bad that he didn't just try the demo because then he would get to play with the combat mechanics before the single player game that starts you off so bleeding slow. But the games controls have a steep learning curve that turns a lot of players off from the game so this was their best answer to lazy English audiences that don't like their games to be hard. A painfully slow slope.
Anyways, a painfully terrible misrepresentation of the game, as you really don't need to do all that collecting, unless its for the beginning quests witch you should be able to power through in 20min.
It sounds harsh, but maybe he should just play the demo disk if he obviously isnt going to put any time into it.
I agree with that post. Yahtzee, you aren't funny unless you are accurate.Chibz said: