More on Halo: Reach

[Hexenwolf]

i'm not surprised Halo Reach is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Halo Combat Evolved for PC about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is drive bots around, infiltrate a base alone, then go back to babysitting retards again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done multiplayer yet, but I have L4D which I just like better from a multiplayer stand-point.

I'm not a halo fan, I don't actually own ANY of them, but I can tell you the game has changed a LOT since the first one. I know that sounds contradictory to what everyone is saying, and I in fact agree with everyone that the core mechanics haven't changed over the past 9 years. But that certainly does not mean that they're the same game. The first game IS rather boring these days, but the new ones still hold a fair bit of fun.

 

[BrailleOperatic]

I agree! The shirt I'm wearing makes me look extremely fat.

 

[ShadowSilencer]

i'm not surprised Halo Reach is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Halo Combat Evolved for PC about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is drive bots around, infiltrate a base alone, then go back to babysitting retards again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done multiplayer yet, but I have L4D which I just like better from a multiplayer stand-point.

i'm not surprised Super Mario Galaxy 2 is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Mario Bros. for NES about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is jump on goombas, infiltrate a castle alone, then go back to babysitting Luigi and Peach again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done the full game yet, but I have Sonic which I just like better from a full game stand-point.

 

[SirDerick]

My shirt makes me look fat? Ha Yahtzee, you fool, I am shirtless.

 

[SilverUchiha]

i'm not surprised Halo Reach is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Halo Combat Evolved for PC about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is drive bots around, infiltrate a base alone, then go back to babysitting retards again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done multiplayer yet, but I have L4D which I just like better from a multiplayer stand-point.

i'm not surprised Super Mario Galaxy 2 is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Mario Bros. for NES about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is jump on goombas, infiltrate a castle alone, then go back to babysitting Luigi and Peach again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done the full game yet, but I have Sonic which I just like better from a full game stand-point.

Oh, I see what you did there. Clever (not). I'm just saying that I've never really been into Halo. Then once I get two games, and discover they aren't really all that impressive as they hype seemed to indicate, I'm just a bit disappointed. And I have done multiplayer on the console versions when I played at a friend's place a few times... and hated it because of... hell... lotta reasons. Guess I'll try to make points like that a bit more clear next time so you don't have to waste the time and energy replying to my posts like that.

And... yeah... Mario is kinda boring too... but that's a different conversation for a different topic.

 

[Faerillis]

I haven't played Reach yet but it's Halo. No one expects anything of the single-player and everyone knows Yahtzee's stance on multiplayer. I know these new abilities are likely a great addition to multiplayer, but no Halo cannot stand on a single player basis.

Then I also firmly believe Yahtzee may need to soften his draconic standard with single player only. There are not a lot of FPSs designed to be sustained on single-player and often these games have a strong and well developed heirarchy of bonuses, gains, titles, etc... To overlook these mechanics is rather narrow-minded, though as it would take a lot more work and time to test all of those I can hardly blame Yahtzee for not taking part in that aspect.

 

[INF1NIT3 D00M]

Yeah, I'm not going to buy it either. I also don't like Bungie's "No idiots allowed" policy which bans achievment points from drooling imbiciles like myself who can only play on easy. Well fuck you to Halo, it's not my fault you give more than half of the bad guys greneade launchers, and I'm handed a crappy pistol and an assault rifle with poor aiming.

I like that policy for exactly this reason. The pistol will kill any enemy in one shot to an unshielded head, and the assault rifle is perfect for taking down shields at close range (note: it only works at close range)
This keeps achievements as what they should be: Achievements. Anyone could beat a game on Easy. That's not a challenge, that's not an achievement. Beating Legendary alone, or killing an Elite with an assassination to stop a fatal fall, those aren't achievements you can get without trying. If you want to breeze by and enjoy the scenery on easy, or see the campaign unfold, by all means play easy. But don't think for a second you're going to get rewarded with challenges or achievements for it.

I personally enjoyed Reach, though it had it's faults. I would love to see some DLC flesh out bits of the story, or finally show what the hell happened to Jun.
Yahtzee, I look forward to your next review. I may not always agree with what you say, but you make some good points and I'll defend to the death your right to make them.

 

[phantasmalWordsmith]

meh. if its not broken, don't fix it. I think thats what bungie were thinking when they make halo games

 

[ShadowSilencer]

i'm not surprised Halo Reach is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Halo Combat Evolved for PC about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is drive bots around, infiltrate a base alone, then go back to babysitting retards again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done multiplayer yet, but I have L4D which I just like better from a multiplayer stand-point.

i'm not surprised Super Mario Galaxy 2 is rather boring.

I actually just picked up Mario Bros. for NES about a week or two ago. I'm honestly falling asleep. All I've done so far is jump on goombas, infiltrate a castle alone, then go back to babysitting Luigi and Peach again. I can't believe people have been finding this stimulating. Haven't done the full game yet, but I have Sonic which I just like better from a full game stand-point.

Oh, I see what you did there. Clever (not). I'm just saying that I've never really been into Halo. Then once I get two games, and discover they aren't really all that impressive as they hype seemed to indicate, I'm just a bit disappointed. And I have done multiplayer on the console versions when I played at a friend's place a few times... and hated it because of... hell... lotta reasons. Guess I'll try to make points like that a bit more clear next time so you don't have to waste the time and energy replying to my posts like that.

And... yeah... Mario is kinda boring too... but that's a different conversation for a different topic.

What did I do......OMG! my post was almost exactly the same as yours.....that's so funny.

 

[kouriichi]

I honestly have to agree with every word he says about reach. Normally, i only agree with him 50-70%, but i thought Reach was a horrible, horrible game.

The worst part is the multiplayers "Matchmaking". It doesnt match players by skill ((even if you choose the preference for it to)) all it does is put you wil people the same rank. And then, you have a horrible voting system, where you never get to play what mode you want.

I like regular "Team slayer", but i get "Team DMRs" or "Team Sniper" half a dozen times in a row, on maps i hate with a passion.

One map called "The Cage" is openly broken for "Team Swat". You can litterally spawn in view of several people, who sadly, are not on your team. ((If you dont know, a head shot in team swat is 1 hit kill))

And i thought MW2 was bad.

 

[Midniqht]

Wow, what a worthless 'article', to follow up a rather mundane review.
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I doubt Mass Effect 2's story is abundantly clear to people who haven't played the first, Y'know why?

- The game has sold many, many copies.
- The history/canon is available online, for free.
- Boring the fans (the people games like this are generally aimed at), with details they already know about, isn't good storytelling.

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The thing there is... ME2 isn't a prequel. It's made to be a sequel where you just continue on. The point he made was more about it being a prequel and still expecting anyone that played Halo to practically read all the books about it before diving into the gameplay. I'm not a huge fan of Halo, but I did play Reach, and I can say that there definitely were a LOT of points or plotholes that made no sense or didn't even attempt to have a reasonable explanation. There's a difference between boring the fans with details they already know and actually adding some meaningful content.

 

[Waaghpowa]

assault rifle is perfect for taking down shields at close range (note: it only works at close range)

That's probably because you're used to console shooters where holding down the trigger feels like the only option. I went through the entire game taking down shielded enemies from long range with the assault rifle by firing short bursts and that's on the Veteran difficulty, whatever is after normal. I play CS a lot and spraying only gets you called a noob and killed, seems that my CS experience paid off.

 

[ShadowSilencer]

Wow, what a worthless 'article', to follow up a rather mundane review.
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I doubt Mass Effect 2's story is abundantly clear to people who haven't played the first, Y'know why?

- The game has sold many, many copies.
- The history/canon is available online, for free.
- Boring the fans (the people games like this are generally aimed at), with details they already know about, isn't good storytelling.

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The thing there is... ME2 isn't a prequel. It's made to be a sequel where you just continue on. The point he made was more about it being a prequel and still expecting anyone that played Halo to practically read all the books about it before diving into the gameplay. I'm not a huge fan of Halo, but I did play Reach, and I can say that there definitely were a LOT of points or plotholes that made no sense or didn't even attempt to have a reasonable explanation. There's a difference between boring the fans with details they already know and actually adding some meaningful content.

Yeah, I didn't like Star Wars Episode 1 either.

 

[Mako SOLDIER]

Since when has anything on Xbox live involved having to faff with getting everyone on the same server? At least stick to facts, that way your name is less likely to skip association from 'Sweet Hat' to 'Ass Hat'.

 

[Tempest13]

Quite honestly it was a fun game, for the first week I had it...good thing I borrowed it from someone else...

 

[ReaperzXIII]

Oh no Mr. Artist I will not judge that part of your work despite the fact you worked just as long on it if not longer on it and it is part of the final product.

Multiplayer is still part of the game, without multiplayer most games would be traded in because after the single player there is not that much to do and playing the campaign over and over again gets tedious.

As for story yes the story is bland as thousands of other games and forms of media including Mass Effect, Final Fantasy etc...but it is not the story that really matters it is how the story is told, the way the tale of Bob finding his spoon is told is what decides whether it is interesting or not. So I find no problems in Halo's story it is something to give you an excuse to kill aliens I find the problem with the narrative which clearly wasn't given enough attention.

Still find it fun though.

 

[Mako SOLDIER]

Too bad that Yahtzee will never delve into these comments deep enough to actually engage in a reasonable discourse. But all the same, I must thank him for validating my commentary about how he approaches his reviews from an already biased (pro- or con-) position.

Yahtzee (and yes, I would say this to your face): You are a HELL of an entertainer... but a piss-poor 'critic'.

Lol. This. Unequivocally and pretty much indisputably.

 

[mgs16925]

Yahtzee, you do realize this takes place several years into the war and isn't first contact, right? Halo wars is set about five years before this, and that was still a little ways in. Master Chief, Cortana, and the rest of the spartans were peparing for an unrelated secret mission anyway when the Covenent showed up.

I didn't bother getting this game and haven't played a Halo game since the second one, but frankly if the basic backstory wasn't explained then Bungie screwed up badly. Or you didn't read the manual.

 

[ShadowSilencer]

Too bad that Yahtzee will never delve into these comments deep enough to actually engage in a reasonable discourse. But all the same, I must thank him for validating my commentary about how he approaches his reviews from an already biased (pro- or con-) position.

Yahtzee (and yes, I would say this to your face): You are a HELL of an entertainer... but a piss-poor 'critic'.

Wait...........He is biased PRO toward a game? Alert the media I just heard a story about pigs flying through the snow-storm in Hell.