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I enjoyed reading XP, as always. I find it funny how there are some fanboys and haters here, each having their own points and such, but whats funny is how some are basically saying how Yahtzee has only started this so he can get traffic and us discussing this in the forums......
Hook, line and sinker much?
Anyways, Im not much of a fan for Halo, I don't have anything against the franchise itself but its never really been my cup of tea. If I have to play an FPS the likes of Doom, Timesplitters, Half-Life and Painkiller are more to my liking.
Hook, line and sinker much?
Anyways, Im not much of a fan for Halo, I don't have anything against the franchise itself but its never really been my cup of tea. If I have to play an FPS the likes of Doom, Timesplitters, Half-Life and Painkiller are more to my liking.
RexoftheFord said:
Lemme guess, you're a Cod fan that views Halo as the root of all evil. Allow me to explain my position a bit better. If I wanted to play in a sand pit and shoot at terrorists in a realistic setting down to the grain of the round, I'd enlist in the military. But since I want to play a sci-fi game where instead of being an unstoppable military juggernaught, you play as the underdog that's slowly but surely loosing the fight. I'm merely trying to say how the franchise can be improved instead of whining that there's another game out to compete with CoD. Realism isn't the most important thing to a game, I regard Bioshock higher than I do Halo, and the original Dark Forces, an old game you probably don't remember, was what first got me into the genre. MW2 was a very good game, but it wasn't perfect, particularly because I like huge battles to take part in, not get suckered into a half-assed stealth bit.
I don't know how many times Yahtzee states this through out his videos/EPs, but the thing about all reviews is that they are SUBJECTIVE. If Yahtzee says he doesn't review multi-player aspects of a game and you're looking for a multi-player inclusive review, then why are you continuously complaining? That's like going to a Toyota dealership and being upset that they dont offer BMW's.Rooster Cogburn said:
I don't play multi-player when it comes to console games. I actually prefer story or a good single player, so Yahtzee's reviews are actually very well suited to my tastes. If you don't like the way he reviews go find someone who reviews the aspects of games you want to hear about. Reviews are ALL subjective, whatever is said in them is never fact or all encompassing.
You know that they already did that in the game Halo 3: ODST? I mean I agree with you mostly but you can't complain that they haven't done a game that isn't about Spartans when they made a whole campaign specifically about ODST's.Shihan2 said:
As a Spartan-II, Jorge was kidnapped at a young age and replaced with a flash-grown clone. He would not know his mother and it definitely wouldn't be Dr. Halsey. Of course, this is backstory, so for people who're just into run'n'gun and don't enjoy reading (like you, or Yahtzee) it's certainly wasted.Sennz0r said:I noticed that too, but what was Jorge's comment on "been hers half my life" about then? That would certainly imply she was his mother, or at least the person who looked after him half his life.
Interesting though, you think the pronunciation was off, while I think the subtitles are wrong
And yes, their training regimens are remarkably like suicide bombers. Both Spartan-IIs and Spartan-IIIs are fully prepared to die for their cause.
I would imagine being tired of Yahtzee you would avoid his articles, and yet here you are none the less...Sir John the Net Knight said:
Could it be you are actually entertained?
A critique comes from a personal view, you can imagine that is affected heavily by his preferences.
Oh I do love it when people think Yahtzee is just stupid and open their mouths and give him a nice oppurtunity to show them how stupid they actually are.
May ZP continue for many years to come!
May ZP continue for many years to come!
Why are so many people complaining about Yahtzee not liking to play online multiplayer? Sure I play the multiplayer but I admit it's probably better not to a lot of people get stressed easily and I'll probably fracture my thumb on the mute button some time soon, it's just personal preference.
And to be honest i'm very much with Yahtzee, if you want to release a game which stands up on it's a multiplayer then you make a MMO not a series of FPS's if you want to do a FPS series you have to have a solid story behind it and to be honest we all have seen aliens attacking humans + earth before Halo haven't we?
And to be honest i'm very much with Yahtzee, if you want to release a game which stands up on it's a multiplayer then you make a MMO not a series of FPS's if you want to do a FPS series you have to have a solid story behind it and to be honest we all have seen aliens attacking humans + earth before Halo haven't we?
Well I think that's more or less what they were trying to do with Reach. The characters in Reach are Spartans but they're early Spartans that Bungie tried to give some more character to. I would say that Reach is like a "Best of" compilation of the Halo games where Bungie have taken the better things from each game and tried to recreate them. They did a good job in my opinion but nothing's ever as good the second time round.Shihan2 said:
Because it would be like if I came along and said I didn't like a JRPG because the roleplaying elements are shit. Yes, the game might have other good stuff, but the core of an RPG is that you get to pick dialogue options and affect the game's plot, and if that stuff is absent and I'm looking for an RPG then clearly the game is shit.Chappy said:
Likewise, if someone comes to play a shooter with a good singleplayer experience (though seeing as Yahtzee enjoyed HL2 I think his standards are remarkably low) and all it has is multiplayer, then clearly it's not very good by their criteria.
It's true, Reach wasn't the best Halo game, and it didn't do a lot to explain...well...anything.
If anyone already explained this, sorry I didn't feel like going through five pages of fan boy bashing.
There are Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs. Dr. Hasley, the one Jorge calls Ma'am, is the person who made the first set of spartans and the spartan IIs. She kidnapped around 77 six year old children (the brightest and strongest) and had them go through training and bio-enhancemnts. So she's known them basically all their lives, hence why they like her so much. The rest of the team were made by the ONI (government)so there is nothing else to say there.
On Yahtzee saying that even though they weigh a ton they float around, its because they are super strong, I mean chief could run around as fast as a cheetah. What I do find funny though is how the Pelicans and other vehicles could support six spartans. But...yeah w/e.
Yahtzee you were nitpicking in your game review, your first complaint was that they didn't fall off the air ships when they took off? Oh and it would have been better if everything stayed in first person, and none of the characters had any real personality. Even with all the flaws I still liked the game and I will always be a fanboy.
If anyone already explained this, sorry I didn't feel like going through five pages of fan boy bashing.
There are Spartan IIs and Spartan IIIs. Dr. Hasley, the one Jorge calls Ma'am, is the person who made the first set of spartans and the spartan IIs. She kidnapped around 77 six year old children (the brightest and strongest) and had them go through training and bio-enhancemnts. So she's known them basically all their lives, hence why they like her so much. The rest of the team were made by the ONI (government)so there is nothing else to say there.
On Yahtzee saying that even though they weigh a ton they float around, its because they are super strong, I mean chief could run around as fast as a cheetah. What I do find funny though is how the Pelicans and other vehicles could support six spartans. But...yeah w/e.
Yahtzee you were nitpicking in your game review, your first complaint was that they didn't fall off the air ships when they took off? Oh and it would have been better if everything stayed in first person, and none of the characters had any real personality. Even with all the flaws I still liked the game and I will always be a fanboy.
I agree completely with yahtzee that games should stand on their single player, as it's a true test of a developers ability to design the environment and AI. To rely on the multi-player side of things is to rely on players finding the right balance between themselves and disown any need for the developer to balance the game - let's just switch god-mode on and have done with it, if we don't care about game balancing.
A side issue of the current trend for cover based shooters is that it has redeuced AI to the level of 'where is cover -> there is cover -> head there' and each firefight feeling like it's been copy and pasted from the last.
However, where I completely disagree with yahtzee is that I think regenerating health (though stupid from a plot point of view) gives games a greater sense of freedom - rather than constantly searching for health packs and quicksaving afterwards. Admit it to yourself PC gamers, we all do it!
A side issue of the current trend for cover based shooters is that it has redeuced AI to the level of 'where is cover -> there is cover -> head there' and each firefight feeling like it's been copy and pasted from the last.
However, where I completely disagree with yahtzee is that I think regenerating health (though stupid from a plot point of view) gives games a greater sense of freedom - rather than constantly searching for health packs and quicksaving afterwards. Admit it to yourself PC gamers, we all do it!
Ok now you're just being insulting. Just because I never got around to reading a Halo novel doesn't mean I don't enjoy reading.ZahrDalsk said:As a Spartan-II, Jorge was kidnapped at a young age and replaced with a flash-grown clone. He would not know his mother and it definitely wouldn't be Dr. Halsey. Of course, this is backstory, so for people who're just into run'n'gun and don't enjoy reading (like you, or Yahtzee) it's certainly wasted.Sennz0r said:I noticed that too, but what was Jorge's comment on "been hers half my life" about then? That would certainly imply she was his mother, or at least the person who looked after him half his life.
Interesting though, you think the pronunciation was off, while I think the subtitles are wrong
And yes, their training regimens are remarkably like suicide bombers. Both Spartan-IIs and Spartan-IIIs are fully prepared to die for their cause.
I never felt the need to read any of it because I don't play Halo for the story. The in-game story lines are not that good, so when I have time to read a book I make sure the story appeals to me enough so I'm prepared to set aside a few hours to read it.
I like the Campaign of Halo: Reach. It's fun, the story makes sense and it ties in very nicely with what I already know of the goings on with Master Chief and Cortana. I also appreciate Bungie's effort to reward their more dedicated fans with references to the backstory of the Halo universe, and it might even get people who play Halo just for the fun of it more interested in the backstory. I probably won't be reading any of the novels though. Like I said I feel there are more interesting books out there.
That doesn't mean I appreciate being called a person who's only interested in run 'n gun and who doesn't enjoy reading.
Really? Just because I don't read those particular novels? Nice assumption.
