Morrowind 2011 Mod Collection Pulled After Complaints

[imperialreign]

I'm at a lack for words here. Ok, so all these mods were created by modders and offered up to the community to use as they see fit right? I mean, you can personally just go and download each and everyone of them separately an achieve the same result that this guy did. Then, wanting to share his joy with others such as these modders were originally doing, he releases a pack of these mods, nothing in which he claims except for the way to put them together. Sounds really stupid to me. I mean, all he really has to do is release his instructions online along with where to download each mod. That will make it a little less convenient for everyone but would end up in the same exact result. I just don't see any kind of reason for a problem here. All these modders are over reacting to this way to much. It's not like you need permission from them to go and download each mod individually, assuming they are all still provided online by the modders themselves. That is the only way I see a problem at all with this. I just don't understand some people.

I agree with this.

I gues it just boils down to the differences within the modding communities. If you release a mod, you know full well it's public domain . . . you don't technically have that many "rights" to the majority of the work, as you're releasing it for a platform or program that you don't have rights to modify to begin with (read the EULA that hasn't changed for most games in the last 30 years). Simply because the game devs don't care if there are users modding their games doesn't give the modders right to go and throw a hissy when someone compiles their work. The only thing I could agree with here would be if the user in question released the comp-pack without providing any kind of credits to the original authors, or if he was trying to make money of the compilation.

IDK, I just find it sad. Being extremelly involved in the STALKER modding community, I don't see this kind of childish behaviour . . . and there are an absolute TON of STALKER mod compilation packs available. We see the same issue where many times compilation packs recieve more publicity and "awareness" than the smaller individual mods, and many users mistakenly credit or assume the compilation author for the entirety of the work. STALKER Complete is a prime example of this . . . but, us modders who's work has been used in these types of compilations don't care. When a mod of any type (even a compilation) recieves this kind of attention, it's for the betterment of the community as a whole . . . it brings more awareness to the scene . . .

 

[pliusmannn]

They should all be very kind with mister Smith, he done a great job and must be appreciated. Mods, you can download them for free right? So why not in one big chunk? I call those mod authors who complaint douchebags

 

[LewisLongshanks]

You can actually still download it. Not all of the file network sites have removed it.

I've seen this kind of prima donna bitching before by various modding communities, and it's always stupid in my opinion. If they had a problem with not getting credit for their work, they could have contacted Smith and asked to be included in the credits. To shut it down completely reeks of selfish egotism. Besides, mod authors don't even use their real names most of the time, just their online pseudonyms.

Now I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, but the whole "violating copyright laws in about a dozen countries" claim reeks of bullcrap. Nobody was making any money off of this. Moreover, it's unlikely any of the mods would be protected like Morrowind itself, since they were all based on the original game's IP.

In short, the modders need to drop the drama queen routine and work something out.

QED. It is bs the modders are making a big deal about it. It is like they had some vain belief that maybe, just maybe their mods for a game that is over half a decade old would get them acquired into professional business someday. Completely vain. It sickens me because they're part of the problem that alot of people are having with the existing corporate giants in video gaming. Oh the irony.

 

[xqxm]

I have never seen someone shoot themselves in the foot more severely than the "dissatisfied creators".

This was a beautiful way for mod creators to get their work appreciated, and for people to see the glory of many people working together to breathe life into an old game.

But since it's obviously more important to them that people download THEIR FILE from THEIR SITE, i guess it wasn't meant to be.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

[Irridium]

I'm not so sure it is illegal if he wasn't making money off of it.

Modding is supposed to be something that is done for the good of the community, but forcing him to take down is package, these modders are showing they obviously don't give a shit about the good of the community.

The modders made the work, some of the mods contain new textures created by the modders, which is most likely what they're pissed about. Plus, chances are the guy didn't ask to use their stuff. All this could have been avoided if the guy simply asked to use the stuff first, and chances are most, if not all, would have said yes.

Yes the modders are being harsher then they should be, and they should be stoked that someone considered their mods important enough to be included in this compilation, but that still doesn't change the fact that the up-loader used their stuff without asking.

In short, uploader wrong for not asking for permission, and modders wrong for being such dicks about it.

Also, as a side note referring to your download speed...

Only 1.1gb? That would take me 3 damn hours to download!

And you can get to speeds of 11 megabytes per second?! I'm lucky if I can get 60 kilobytes a second!

God I wish they'd bring DSL to my area >:|
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Sorry... just jealous is all.

 

[stone0042]

So since the site is finally down, does that mean instructions are gone as well? I have the file, but would feel much better installing with his instructions, they looked quite detailed. Any ideas?

 

[Danpascooch]

I'm not so sure it is illegal if he wasn't making money off of it.

Modding is supposed to be something that is done for the good of the community, but forcing him to take down is package, these modders are showing they obviously don't give a shit about the good of the community.

The modders made the work, some of the mods contain new textures created by the modders, which is most likely what they're pissed about. Plus, chances are the guy didn't ask to use their stuff. All this could have been avoided if the guy simply asked to use the stuff first, and chances are most, if not all, would have said yes.

Yes the modders are being harsher then they should be, and they should be stoked that someone considered their mods important enough to be included in this compilation, but that still doesn't change the fact that the up-loader used their stuff without asking.

In short, uploader wrong for not asking for permission, and modders wrong for being such dicks about it.

Also, as a side note referring to your download speed...

Only 1.1gb? That would take me 3 damn hours to download!

And you can get to speeds of 11 megabytes per second?! I'm lucky if I can get 60 kilobytes a second!

God I wish they'd bring DSL to my area >:|
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Sorry... just jealous is all.

I was surprised it was 1.1gb because I heard it was 4gb, and as for the 11mbps, I am currently on a pretty newly built University that specializes in computer programming and other tech related fields. I don't know how they achieve the speeds, I knew I had that much DL speed, I was just surprised the free file host had that much speed.

 

[Jymm]

The instructions can be found here... http://morrowind2011.ultimaaiera.com/

 

[Drahadis]

I'm going to explain why this happened. I've been a modder and member of modding communities for 12 years, and one thing is always constant. Modding communities are always full of immature children who throw temper tantrums, can't use any team work, don't listen to others ideas, lover to bicker and fight, and cannot take any criticism. Sure there are always a few older more experienced modders that are far more mature and act like adults... but many of those members are elitist pigs who love use their popularity and influence to cast out and ban members they don't like usually for ridiculous personal reasons, I've seen them many times influence the actions and decisions of community administrators and moderators.... sometimes communities actually give these douches administrator power. This is why I quit modding, and told them where they could all go but using much harsher language.

This guy cared enough about the game and its players to put everyone's work together into one download and explain how it all works TOGETHER, and like the trolls they are, the community as expected threw a temper tantrum and crucified him like the jerks they are. They have no legal rights to any of that material, the publisher owns the rights to the game and all related materials, NOT the modding community. As long as you give them credit (WHICH HE DID!!! Okay, not originally he didn't but he fixed that by a long mile, there's credit given in several different files now.), they have no legitimate complaints... other than maybe loosing a few fans. I don't see the modding community working together to accomplish what he did... oh wait, thats right they're incapable of working together!

For 12 years I put up with the drama of communities like this one until I couldn't take it anymore. Because of how awful and childish every modding community is, I had to give up something I really love... and I'll never forgive them for that. Modders rely on these communities for the experience of each member, so they can learn how to mod and pick up new techniques and tools, and mods need teamwork to get anywhere, but all that falls apart when the community is a bunch of dramatic insufferable children. A lot of mods die for this reason. Personally I hope all these douche bags burn alive. There's a lot of people who feel the same way I do about how horrible modding communities are. I've met a lot of them who have quit for the same reasons and moved on with their lives, but they didn't love modding as much as I did.

More people need to stick it to these childish modding communities, and create a community who does what this guy did. Take the work from immature communities who won't all work together, and marge all of it into large condensed mods everyone can enjoy for the benefit of the community instead of their own individual pride. I might get back into modding if someone did that, would depend on the maturity level and friendliness of the community members.

I have actually seen another mod like this, which I HIGHLY recommend. The Super Mod Pack for S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl, but even that modder doesn't like to listen to other people's ideas.... but still, he condensed a list of different mods into one giant mod with everything you could possibly want, which makes the game worth digging back up and reinstalling. But unlike this guy, he somehow got their permission I guess, cause no one seems to be angry with that mod.

 

[natranr]

I agree with the above poster, as long as credit is made, they shouldn't have made a fuss.

 

[PurplePlatypus]

It?s very simple.
You ask first. Then you don?t waist people time and it doesn?t appear like your taking advantage. There?s no middle ground because you don?t get to pull the puppy dog eyes and say, oh go on, after the fact.

Legally, I don?t know if anyone is particularly in the wrong but it?s always in good faith to ask. And it doesn?t matter if you give credit or whether you think it?s for the good of everyone, if it?s so awesome you present it to them and convince them to agree.

 

[Memor-X]

Anyone know where i can download this, don't care if it's illegal or if authors haven't been credited, i don't read the credits list anyway with any mod i get, Morrowind's graphics just look very stale and choppy after playing Oblivion so long and i want to get back into playing it (also i think it's because i got the expansions, i can't find some of my hairstyles)

 

[YawningAngel]

Frankly, I took the trouble to hunt this down, and it wasn't worth the trouble. My 9600GT was pulling 15fps, and it still looked like sugar.

 

[vikeif]

Frankly, I took the trouble to hunt this down, and it wasn't worth the trouble. My 9600GT was pulling 15fps, and it still looked like sugar.

... Sounds like your shits broken, bud.

 

[YawningAngel]

Nope, nothing wrong with what I'm using, this mod just isn't as great as the maker says it is.