Most Evil Human In History Aside From the Big Two

[Rnr1224]

kim jong il gets my vote!

 

[Jacco]

Dictators are easy pickings for "most evil person ever." To me, dictators are dictators- they dont really have a face. They just... are. I can't relate to them.

My top two choices (tied for first):

Gertrude Baniszewski. That woman tortured and murdered a 16 year old girl who was under her care in some of the most horrible and degrading ways possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baniszewski

Fred Phelps- who we all (in the US anyway) know and love as the leader of the Westboro Baptist Church. For any of you outside the US that dont know, the WBC is an extremist congregation that is known here for protesting at military funerals with signs saying "Thank God for dead soldiers" because they think the US is evil for allowing homosexual relationships/marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

 

[Slade Brown]

Anyone who fought in the motherfucking Crusades on the Christian side. We complain about 3,000 innocents at 9/11. The Muslims at Jerusalem can complain about 300,000 women and children who were seeking safety in a mosque.

 

[Jacco]

Anyone who fought in the motherfucking Crusades on the Christian side. We complain about 3,000 innocents at 9/11. The Muslims at Jerusalem can complain about 300,000 women and children who were seeking safety in a mosque.

The Muslims committed their share of war crimes too. The Crusades (all 9 or 10 of them) were just a fuster-cluck all around.

 

[Slade Brown]

Anyone who fought in the motherfucking Crusades on the Christian side. We complain about 3,000 innocents at 9/11. The Muslims at Jerusalem can complain about 300,000 women and children who were seeking safety in a mosque.

The Muslims committed their share of war crimes too. The Crusades (all 9 or 10 of them) were just a fuster-cluck all around.

I would have mentioned them if I knew it, it's just my knowledge of history is from Europe mostly, and I find the middle ages too stupid to research thoroughly.

 

[deleted_by_strongbad]

Constantine, he weaponized Christianity, put forth a number of laws, policies,& edicts under the banner of religious tolerance that gave Christians superior standing while practicing other faiths became criminal offenses (many punishable by death), kicked the Jews out of Jerusalem, was generally a warmongering psycho, and largely laid the groundwork and precedent for most of the institutionalized faith based genocide and cultural purgings in Europe.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Dictators are easy pickings for "most evil person ever." To me, dictators are dictators- they dont really have a face. They just... are. I can't relate to them.

My top two choices (tied for first):

Gertrude Baniszewski. That woman tortured and murdered a 16 year old girl who was under her care in some of the most horrible and degrading ways possible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gertrude_Baniszewski

Fred Phelps- who we all (in the US anyway) know and love as the leader of the Westboro Baptist Church. For any of you outside the US that dont know, the WBC is an extremist congregation that is known here for protesting at military funerals with signs saying "Thank God for dead soldiers" because they think the US is evil for allowing homosexual relationships/marriage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps

Woah, Baniszewski is a fucking scary monster, hope she rots in hell if there is one.

 

[mcpop9]

Vlad the impaler. Many people view him as "evil" but I view him as a genius, but sure the man did many horrible things but they had purpose. Using severed heads of an enemy to demoralize the rest of their amy, some of the finest phycological warfare by any standards.

 

[Malo_Tux]

Vladimir Putin... not because his is an evil person, hell I'm not sure if he's done wrong at all in his life. But he is ex KGB, and I fear him and because I fear him he is evil.

 

[MrGalactus]

Who the hell is that?

Rupert Merdoch

Let me rephrase that, who the hell is Rupert Merdoch?

Owner of a vast media empire. For an example of the stuff his news outlets do, the British newspaper News Of The World is being closed down because they were hacking into phones that belonged to relatives of fallen soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan for news stories.
Yeah.
Also, News Of The World skew pretty much every story I've ever read out of it, just like Fox News.
He also owns Fox.

Vladimir Putin... not because his is an evil person, hell I'm not sure if he's done wrong at all in his life. But he is ex KGB, and I fear him and because I fear him he is evil.

Because he's ex-KGB? Well, not everyone from shady anti-west organisations is evil, just like not every Nazi or German soldier was evil. They were just doing as told for what they thought was right, really. Just like everyone.

 

[CouchCommando]

L Ron Hubbard - Scientology

 

[The Last Nomad]

'Evil' is a very relative term. It's really a point of view more than an actual thing. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to answer the question. However, I personally do not have a definition for evil in my mind so I can't really answer the question. To me, Hilter or Charles Manson aren't evil. Hitler believed in something and really didn't care what it took to achieve what he believed was a better world. That sentence could be applied to many 'Heroes' in fiction. It could also be applied to Charles Manson, but he may have also been batshit insane. Does that cancel out his evilness or enforce it?
I believe that what they believed in was wrong, but that doesn't mean that they are evil does it? Just because someone believes in something false. If that was true I would have to call everybody who believes in a god evil.


The OPs example of Idi Amin is a pretty good one though, he didn't seem to be doing anything he did for any kind of greater good, instead he was doing things to fulfill his greed. However I'm still not sure if I would consider him evil. He obviously didn't have any qualms about killing people. So he obviously would not have considered himself evil. To him, he was just trying to achieve the things he wanted. If getting the things he wanted had to result in the deaths of so many people and he accepted that then I don't think I would call him 'evil'. I don't know what I would call him though, maybe insane, misunderstood or just brought up wrong.
I'm not saying the things he done (I only know of the things the OP mentioned) weren't awful or inhumane or however you would describe them and I'm not trying to defend his or anyone else's actions but I think if there was a reason for someones actions then they are not truly evil. They are doing what they want to do, and if you can stick a label like 'evil' on a man who violently kills 5 people for money then why not stick the same label on a man who violently kills 5 people to stop 10 more from being killed?


I think the only truly evil people are those who do 'evil' things for no reason and realise what they are doing is 'evil'. But like I said, I don't have a clear view of what I consider evil.

Quit beating around the bush with philosophy, most evil people do not see themselves as such. Certain people are just insane like Hitler and a few others, others are megalomaniacs, sociopaths and just plain pschopathic greedy human monsters. Now pick someone, out of all of human history it cannot truly be that hard if you weed out the ones with misguided beliefs.

I'm not beating round any bush's. I said that I don't have a clear view of evil in my mind and without a clear view I can't really call anybody evil without sounding like an idiot. Imagine calling a brown haired person a blonde because you didn't know the meaning of blonde. It goes the same for the word evil only the meaning of evil is far more disputed.
I wasn't defending anybody you consider evil. I was just saying why I would not call them evil (Which doesn't mean they don't deserve punishment either). Although I did say I don't really understand the word evil, I would consider it very different to insane, so if you say Hitler was insane, then he wasn't really evil.
Again, I'm not trying to defend anybody here but consider this, If somebody does something evil and after that understands what they did was evil and then tries to undo it, then they are certainly not evil right? But were they evil before they realised what they were doin was wrong? or just misinformed? I wouldn't call them evil, just as I wouldn't call Hitler evil for trying to make a better world. He was just wrong, because he wasn't making a better world. Not by a long shot.

And you want me to pick someone, but I have already said that the word 'evil' has no meaning to me. So I could just mention people who fit other peoples definition of evil... so how about these guys [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete-Encased_High_School_Girl_Murder_Case]. I'm pretty sure most people would consider them very evil and I doubt anybody already mentioned them...

 

[Blatherscythe]

'Evil' is a very relative term. It's really a point of view more than an actual thing. But that doesn't mean it's impossible to answer the question. However, I personally do not have a definition for evil in my mind so I can't really answer the question. To me, Hilter or Charles Manson aren't evil. Hitler believed in something and really didn't care what it took to achieve what he believed was a better world. That sentence could be applied to many 'Heroes' in fiction. It could also be applied to Charles Manson, but he may have also been batshit insane. Does that cancel out his evilness or enforce it?
I believe that what they believed in was wrong, but that doesn't mean that they are evil does it? Just because someone believes in something false. If that was true I would have to call everybody who believes in a god evil.


The OPs example of Idi Amin is a pretty good one though, he didn't seem to be doing anything he did for any kind of greater good, instead he was doing things to fulfill his greed. However I'm still not sure if I would consider him evil. He obviously didn't have any qualms about killing people. So he obviously would not have considered himself evil. To him, he was just trying to achieve the things he wanted. If getting the things he wanted had to result in the deaths of so many people and he accepted that then I don't think I would call him 'evil'. I don't know what I would call him though, maybe insane, misunderstood or just brought up wrong.
I'm not saying the things he done (I only know of the things the OP mentioned) weren't awful or inhumane or however you would describe them and I'm not trying to defend his or anyone else's actions but I think if there was a reason for someones actions then they are not truly evil. They are doing what they want to do, and if you can stick a label like 'evil' on a man who violently kills 5 people for money then why not stick the same label on a man who violently kills 5 people to stop 10 more from being killed?


I think the only truly evil people are those who do 'evil' things for no reason and realise what they are doing is 'evil'. But like I said, I don't have a clear view of what I consider evil.

Quit beating around the bush with philosophy, most evil people do not see themselves as such. Certain people are just insane like Hitler and a few others, others are megalomaniacs, sociopaths and just plain pschopathic greedy human monsters. Now pick someone, out of all of human history it cannot truly be that hard if you weed out the ones with misguided beliefs.

I'm not beating round any bush's. I said that I don't have a clear view of evil in my mind and without a clear view I can't really call anybody evil without sounding like an idiot. Imagine calling a brown haired person a blonde because you didn't know the meaning of blonde. It goes the same for the word evil only the meaning of evil is far more disputed.
I wasn't defending anybody you consider evil. I was just saying why I would not call them evil (Which doesn't mean they don't deserve punishment either). Although I did say I don't really understand the word evil, I would consider it very different to insane, so if you say Hitler was insane, then he wasn't really evil.
Again, I'm not trying to defend anybody here but consider this, If somebody does something evil and after that understands what they did was evil and then tries to undo it, then they are certainly not evil right? But were they evil before they realised what they were doin was wrong? or just misinformed? I wouldn't call them evil, just as I wouldn't call Hitler evil for trying to make a better world. He was just wrong, because he wasn't making a better world. Not by a long shot.

And you want me to pick someone, but I have already said that the word 'evil' has no meaning to me. So I could just mention people who fit other peoples definition of evil... so how about these guys [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concrete-Encased_High_School_Girl_Murder_Case]. I'm pretty sure most people would consider them very evil and I doubt anybody already mentioned them...

That's awful, I'm suprised nobody mentioned those human cesspools. And the fact that their sentences were so lenient. Those people would be recognized in any society as the lowest form of scum, truly despicable humans, they would be viewed as the walking garbage they are.

Evil depends on the person, but society as a whole sets down groud rules of what is and what isn't acceptable and evil is typically deemed exceptionally cruel/extreame by those standards.

 

[Durgiun]

Ante Pavelić?

 

[Durgiun]

L Ron Hubbard - Scientology

 

[Blatherscythe]

Ante Pavelić?

Who? Seriously guys/gals, most of us don't know these people so you have to explain.

 

[Blatherscythe]

L Ron Hubbard - Scientology

Shit, that's what I forgot to do before leaving Vancouver. I forgot to piss/spit on the Church of Scientologys' church in that city.

 

[MrStab]

Mao Zedong.

I second that. That guy was a sick egotistical bastard who killed tens of millions and made many more suffer because he desired such. For what? Politics? Vanity? Neglect?

That man was a monster.

DING DING DING! An explination. I read about the guy, he wanted to be the figure head of Communism when Stalin died. Yes because Communism definatly wants to have leaders elevated above the rest (sarcasm), Mao, like Stalin, butchered Marx's idea to exploit a nation and create an enviroment of fear and control that still lives to this day. I think with how many dictators exploit the ideals of Communism Marx must be constantly shifting around in his grave.

Yeah Mao would be up there pretty high but just remember at that point of time in China the shit was already fucked what with the fall of the Qing dynasty, the Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Warlordism etc Mao wasn't the only one to get his hands dirty. Also when you say "butchered Marx's idea" back when the GMD (Guomindang) and CCP (Chinese Communist Party) were operating under the same roof so to speak it was said that Marxist theory was only for them a very basic guideline and not to be at all followed to the letter so they didn't really butcher it as they never claimed to be all for it in the first place. No i'm not trying to be a condecending dick so if it comes over that way I'm sorry I just don't want to let people get the wrong idea in their heads.

OT: Whoever it was that took out the plane that managed to spark the Rwandan genocide as I don't believe it was just an accident.

 

[Suijen]

Genghis Khan. He slaughtered a ton of people for epic lulz.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Mao Zedong.

I second that. That guy was a sick egotistical bastard who killed tens of millions and made many more suffer because he desired such. For what? Politics? Vanity? Neglect?

That man was a monster.

DING DING DING! An explination. I read about the guy, he wanted to be the figure head of Communism when Stalin died. Yes because Communism definatly wants to have leaders elevated above the rest (sarcasm), Mao, like Stalin, butchered Marx's idea to exploit a nation and create an enviroment of fear and control that still lives to this day. I think with how many dictators exploit the ideals of Communism Marx must be constantly shifting around in his grave.

Yeah Mao would be up there pretty high but just remember at that point of time in China the shit was already fucked what with the fall of the Qing dynasty, the Righteous and Harmonious Fists, Warlordism etc Mao wasn't the only one to get his hands dirty. Also when you say "butchered Marx's idea" back when the GMD (Guomindang) and CCP (Chinese Communist Party) were operating under the same roof so to speak it was said that Marxist theory was only for them a very basic guideline and not to be at all followed to the letter so they didn't really butcher it as they never claimed to be all for it in the first place. No i'm not trying to be a condecending dick so if it comes over that way I'm sorry I just don't want to let people get the wrong idea in their heads.

OT: Whoever it was that took out the plane that managed to spark the Rwandan genocide as I don't believe it was just an accident.

It has been a while since I read the book, but yes, dictators tend to come to power through disasters and wars in their countries. Besides, it's easy to start a communist revolution in countries where the poor are exploited by the small super rich. Problems arise when the rebels are put in power and become the upper class themselves and become worse than them.

And while Marxist theory is just a guideline there are some things you cannot do under that guideline. Mao was a hypocrite, he'd damn something and then enjoy it himself, he had a luxurious lifestyle that others did not enjoy, something that goes against communist ideals.