Most evil person in history?
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Looking at the past Hitler wasn't as evil, he was a con artist, I will say what he did was seemly stupid and reckless considering the genocide's left in his wake, but enough about theory and discovery channel.
In Simple retrospect, any oil company (BP:British Petroleum/Petro) or water company (Culligan). They control the worlds most needed resources. Though in truth if the electric car patten was removed life would be easier. These are the main evil company's around the world.
In Simple retrospect, any oil company (BP:British Petroleum/Petro) or water company (Culligan). They control the worlds most needed resources. Though in truth if the electric car patten was removed life would be easier. These are the main evil company's around the world.
Geoff from accounting. Everything he does is an attempt to cause chaos in the world. He is destructive and manipulating and would fit right in with the characters from Fight Club. If he only aspired to be a more powerful person, he would be more infamous as one of history's most evil.
Stalin.
Anyone who's actually bothered to study Russian history would know that it's not JUST the body count with this guy, but what he did to create a political terror machine that makes Orwell's "1984" seem downright pleasant by comparison. No surprise that Orwell's other very popular work, "Animal Farm", is a barely-veiled excoriation of how the Soviet Union was made and maintained.
I've no doubt, without even reading this thread, that someone will have put "George W. Bush", "Big Oil", or just "America" up without even thinking...because "four legs good, two legs bad" is the mode they're stuck in. But you could put ALL of those purported evils together, and give face credibility to every single plot and wrong they're supposed to have committed --- and it wouldn't hold a candle to what Stalin's actually known to have done.
Did Bush put ten million people into slave-labor camps for not adhering to his party's line? No? Stalin did.
You folks don't know about Soviet Big Oil at Ploesti and Baku, and how their ideas of labor, safety and pollution controls --- none --- made the American "robber barons" of the 1800s look positively humanitarian.
You don't remember the crackdowns on Islam which so many FEARED Bush would do --- but which Stalin actually DID. Mosques were closed or turned into warehouses throughout Central Asia. Religious leaders were persecuted, religious schools were closed down.
You don't care that Stalin did worse to Muslims (often classified as "enemies of workers") than America did to the indigenous tribes...there were deportations of entire nationalities and organized migrations in opposite directions to refill "ethnically cleansed" territories. Of the Crimean Tatars alone, 30,000 died by starvation and neglect during forced recolonization...the Cherokee "Trail of Tears", largely considered the worst American atrocity ever committed, claimed some 4,000.
Your worst nightmares of what Bush, Big Oil, and America never were --- Josef Stalin was.
Anyone who's actually bothered to study Russian history would know that it's not JUST the body count with this guy, but what he did to create a political terror machine that makes Orwell's "1984" seem downright pleasant by comparison. No surprise that Orwell's other very popular work, "Animal Farm", is a barely-veiled excoriation of how the Soviet Union was made and maintained.
I've no doubt, without even reading this thread, that someone will have put "George W. Bush", "Big Oil", or just "America" up without even thinking...because "four legs good, two legs bad" is the mode they're stuck in. But you could put ALL of those purported evils together, and give face credibility to every single plot and wrong they're supposed to have committed --- and it wouldn't hold a candle to what Stalin's actually known to have done.
Did Bush put ten million people into slave-labor camps for not adhering to his party's line? No? Stalin did.
You folks don't know about Soviet Big Oil at Ploesti and Baku, and how their ideas of labor, safety and pollution controls --- none --- made the American "robber barons" of the 1800s look positively humanitarian.
You don't remember the crackdowns on Islam which so many FEARED Bush would do --- but which Stalin actually DID. Mosques were closed or turned into warehouses throughout Central Asia. Religious leaders were persecuted, religious schools were closed down.
You don't care that Stalin did worse to Muslims (often classified as "enemies of workers") than America did to the indigenous tribes...there were deportations of entire nationalities and organized migrations in opposite directions to refill "ethnically cleansed" territories. Of the Crimean Tatars alone, 30,000 died by starvation and neglect during forced recolonization...the Cherokee "Trail of Tears", largely considered the worst American atrocity ever committed, claimed some 4,000.
Your worst nightmares of what Bush, Big Oil, and America never were --- Josef Stalin was.
Can't be determined, evil is in the eye of the beholder. Adolf Hitler is both the most righteous man in history and the most evil.
I have to say I very much enjoyed your debate with the others about what ideals communism actually represented and how it eventually got twisted for self-serving dictators.RandomNameRandom said:
However, I despise how people like Travis Hiquet (to give an example) happily demonize ideals like socialism/communism/capitalism/Fascism without looking at the concepts unfiltered. I actually blame America media bullsh*t for stigmatizing and taking Stalinism/Fascism as a defining precedent for socialist economies.
We Americans are world renown for not knowning sh*t about politics and some of us actually take pride in that. A disease commonly called "anti-intellectualism that can be best described as a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
You RandomNameRandom are the exception to the rule. And for that I salute you.
Irregardless, we Americans are deserving of all the world's hatred, justifiably so.
To answer OP:
Single most detrimental human being to humanity?
Would say... every politician/ruler to have ever existed since the birth of civilization. Why? Because we pretty much screwed ourselves the moment we got away from the whole hunter-gatherer thing.
This planet will live 2 billion years more till the sun blows, we humans? Make an educated guess...?
Single most detrimental human being to humanity?
Would say... every politician/ruler to have ever existed since the birth of civilization. Why? Because we pretty much screwed ourselves the moment we got away from the whole hunter-gatherer thing.
This planet will live 2 billion years more till the sun blows, we humans? Make an educated guess...?
You seem to forget that Karl was probably the most caring person in the world.Brett Dumain said:
In a time when if you were poor, you were nothing, Karl was the one person in the world too look at this system of life and say "This is wrong, im going to do something about it!"
My arse hes Evil.
No, you know full well what you are doing and the implications behind a comment such as "The Bible".Saelune said:
It's just an offhand way in making an otherwise informative thread into spotlighting religious intolerance.
Should it bother you that your comment incites a flame war? Be the bigger man and don't instigate it. There aren't many unintelligent people on this website, so don't try to play dumb like this.
Edit: Almost forgot to contribute my evil person.
I don't know if this guy was evil as opposed to sick in the head, but I think I'm gonna go with the BTK serial killer. That guy always kinda got me riled up
You do realize Nazi-Germany did declare war on the US, which is more or less the definition of showing oneself willing to attack US cities and military bases? It's true that there were no german attacks on american soil, but that was more a matter of logistics.spartan231490 said:
As some people have explained before, it's sort of a overgeneralization to say that Jesus and the writers of the Bible are evil. Writing a book and teaching people how to live is not exactly evil. Jesus was the person who said "Treat others as you would want to be treated."Disva said:
The true villain when it comes to Christianity is people who focus more on his death than on his teachings. From what we know, Jesus is probably the least evil person in history. The only questionable thing he did was knock over the tables in the temple. I think you should try and focus on the actions of the person himself, not the morons that follow him.
Sorry if this seems like I'm condescending, but I believe Christianity is mocked more often than it deserves. Evil people taking Christianity too seriously is responsible for the deaths of millions. One man saying "love everyone equally" is not. It's sort of like if someone wrote a book today on how everything in the world works as we know it at the moment. Maybe he includes some morality in there. If, 200 years from now, people are still following his book word for word and killing in the author's name, is he to blame? Or is it the zealots who follow him?
*holds back from adding to Karl Marx, Stalinisism and OP Oil/water/news companies arguments*
Yeah, I'd go with Soviet and Nazi Government. Because ONE person can't kill 50 million people, no matter how hard he tries.
P.S. I'm surprised by how many people read Communist Manifesto and Capital and considered all flaws and strong points of both works.
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Nah, couldn't keep a straight face.
Yeah, I'd go with Soviet and Nazi Government. Because ONE person can't kill 50 million people, no matter how hard he tries.
P.S. I'm surprised by how many people read Communist Manifesto and Capital and considered all flaws and strong points of both works.
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Nah, couldn't keep a straight face.
loves the avatar, and good point, I think that communism/ socialism is evil *agrees*Terrara said:
