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I think those are given a pass because they want to release yearly installments to reflect the new rules/player rosters, and they each do change year to year in terms of control refinements, balancing events (interceptions used to be stupidly common in madden '08 for example), etc.OhJohnNo said:
hmmm when you say milked I take it as a game series that has just dropped to cheap games that arnt very good, so although mario has made a lot of games his games maintain a certain level of quality as mario kart and the sports games are pretty fun. So for most milked Ill say................COD, new game every year/map packs and its basically the same thing
Not Mario, you see, milking something means that it stops trying to do something new or interesting, INCLUDING being fun to play.
Call of Duty is the most milked franchise out there on todays market, because its just NOT FUN, like, anymore. A game only becomes milked once it stops being fun to play.
Call of Duty is the most milked franchise out there on todays market, because its just NOT FUN, like, anymore. A game only becomes milked once it stops being fun to play.
As a franchise in general? Star wars.
As a franchise in gaming? Mario, Mario, Mario. What are they going to call the next 3D mario game? Super Mario Multiverse? or a re-re-release of Super Mario 64 (sigh) IIINNNN THREEE DEEEEE?
As a franchise in gaming? Mario, Mario, Mario. What are they going to call the next 3D mario game? Super Mario Multiverse? or a re-re-release of Super Mario 64 (sigh) IIINNNN THREEE DEEEEE?
A few defenses, then my own opinion:
AC is not a milked franchise. You define a milked franchise as a series of games (or brands), where something to do with it is released and no new innovations occur. This immediately takes AC and Halo out of the picture: Each Assasins Creed game has added something new (and the 3 main console games really can't be considered "milked"), such as the momentum-based gameplay in AC II: Discovery. Halo, on the other hand, had released the first three for the purpose of the story, and most of the spin-offs to either expand the universe or experiment with and refine new concepts. Halo Wars was an experiment with turning Halo into an RTS. Not that much of a success. ODST wasn't that good either, and was really more for big fans of the Halo franchise, as it was mostly made for players to experience what it was like for you if you DIDN'T happen to be an incredibly lucky super-soldier. As far as Reach, I think that game was mostly a test for the new versions of Forge and Firefight, and to test the waters with the Armor Abilities. As far as the new trilogy... let's wait and see, before we judge. (Though the grenade pistol looks cool XD)
So my thoughs on milked franchises:
1: Call of Duty, SORT OF. While the more recent games haven't added much (the COD points don't count), they ARE an improvement from some of the earlier games. WaW is still king of that franchise, IMO. (REZNOV FOR THE WIN!)
2: Lego. The few Lego games have been mundane, and never added anything new. They had a certain comic element to them, but they are still poor quality. As one of the top toymakers in the world, with plenty of funds, they could do better.
3: NOT Madden. You can't give people new stuff unless the rules of the sports changed.
4: Heroes of Might and Magic. Bet ya didn't see that one coming. The games have been around for a long time, and they have yet to get past the idea that turn-based RTS's do NOT work well in multiplayer settings.
5: Mario, Sonic, Zelda, Kirby.... Pretty much anything that came over in the Gaming Revolution of 1985. Heck, you could even add in the more recent Final Fantasy and Pokemon series!
6: Fallout. They just don't know where to go with this series. They should find SOME way to wrap the whole thing up. It doesn't make sense to leave the world of Fallout in a nuclear wasteland for all eternity.
7: Oregon Trail: It's been I think 5 or so games, and it's always the same thing: Has died of Dissentary
8: YuGiOh: Again, quite a few games, nothing new.
I could go on and on, but I'll settle with those for now. Fire away, Escapist community.
AC is not a milked franchise. You define a milked franchise as a series of games (or brands), where something to do with it is released and no new innovations occur. This immediately takes AC and Halo out of the picture: Each Assasins Creed game has added something new (and the 3 main console games really can't be considered "milked"), such as the momentum-based gameplay in AC II: Discovery. Halo, on the other hand, had released the first three for the purpose of the story, and most of the spin-offs to either expand the universe or experiment with and refine new concepts. Halo Wars was an experiment with turning Halo into an RTS. Not that much of a success. ODST wasn't that good either, and was really more for big fans of the Halo franchise, as it was mostly made for players to experience what it was like for you if you DIDN'T happen to be an incredibly lucky super-soldier. As far as Reach, I think that game was mostly a test for the new versions of Forge and Firefight, and to test the waters with the Armor Abilities. As far as the new trilogy... let's wait and see, before we judge. (Though the grenade pistol looks cool XD)
So my thoughs on milked franchises:
1: Call of Duty, SORT OF. While the more recent games haven't added much (the COD points don't count), they ARE an improvement from some of the earlier games. WaW is still king of that franchise, IMO. (REZNOV FOR THE WIN!)
2: Lego. The few Lego games have been mundane, and never added anything new. They had a certain comic element to them, but they are still poor quality. As one of the top toymakers in the world, with plenty of funds, they could do better.
3: NOT Madden. You can't give people new stuff unless the rules of the sports changed.
4: Heroes of Might and Magic. Bet ya didn't see that one coming. The games have been around for a long time, and they have yet to get past the idea that turn-based RTS's do NOT work well in multiplayer settings.
5: Mario, Sonic, Zelda, Kirby.... Pretty much anything that came over in the Gaming Revolution of 1985. Heck, you could even add in the more recent Final Fantasy and Pokemon series!
6: Fallout. They just don't know where to go with this series. They should find SOME way to wrap the whole thing up. It doesn't make sense to leave the world of Fallout in a nuclear wasteland for all eternity.
7: Oregon Trail: It's been I think 5 or so games, and it's always the same thing: Has died of Dissentary
8: YuGiOh: Again, quite a few games, nothing new.
I could go on and on, but I'll settle with those for now. Fire away, Escapist community.
Mario. Mario has done everything and been every type of game. There are more Mario games then any other type of franchise ever. Paradoxically even though its the undisputed milking king that makes it better. Having touched everything everyone knows Mario. That's power.
damn you took my answer. How about....Zelda? Metroid? really any nintendo series countsKuma_Nur said:
Nintendo's big franchises like Mario, zelda, metroid, many spin offs, etc.
i will admit zelda is milked too even though i still like those games. i know zelda games have flaws but i don't get mad when it's criticized. i won't defend zelda because i am not a fanboy. i lack understanding why people must defend Nintendo. Nintendo is a big boy it dose not need defense from it's players. it can handle it self
unlike some of those people i say the time line debates are worthless. i just have fun. beyond obvious sequels/connected games (like ocarina of time and majora's mask, oracle of season and ages, and others if there any more are left) i ignorantly choose not to acknowledged the timeline's existence(if it exists) and i am happy that way. if Nintendo hypothetically revealed a timeline and said the order of all games i still would not give a shit.
modern call of duty's (rehashes of cod 4 with tweaks(examples different weapon, more balanced multiplier, etc) for the most part. i admit it they did add nazi zombies but there map DLC's are just stupid
Star wars(george lucas loves money not mush else is left to be said)
sonic(just let it die)
madden and other yearly sports games. not all but many(last years game tweaked and re-released for $60 annually)
halo (if i remember correctly reach was suppose to be the last game but it's not so it will get there eventually if they keep make more)
i will admit zelda is milked too even though i still like those games. i know zelda games have flaws but i don't get mad when it's criticized. i won't defend zelda because i am not a fanboy. i lack understanding why people must defend Nintendo. Nintendo is a big boy it dose not need defense from it's players. it can handle it self
unlike some of those people i say the time line debates are worthless. i just have fun. beyond obvious sequels/connected games (like ocarina of time and majora's mask, oracle of season and ages, and others if there any more are left) i ignorantly choose not to acknowledged the timeline's existence(if it exists) and i am happy that way. if Nintendo hypothetically revealed a timeline and said the order of all games i still would not give a shit.
modern call of duty's (rehashes of cod 4 with tweaks(examples different weapon, more balanced multiplier, etc) for the most part. i admit it they did add nazi zombies but there map DLC's are just stupid
Star wars(george lucas loves money not mush else is left to be said)
sonic(just let it die)
madden and other yearly sports games. not all but many(last years game tweaked and re-released for $60 annually)
halo (if i remember correctly reach was suppose to be the last game but it's not so it will get there eventually if they keep make more)
when say there is milk left your taking about sour milk right?spectrenihlus said:
Anyone say Pokemon yet. They've got over 20 games and of the ones like fire/blue to the latest the system hasn't changed at all.
Well Star Wars beats Pokemon, but it's still up there.
Well Star Wars beats Pokemon, but it's still up there.
One game?Sgt. Sykes said:
Sure they have Half Life 1, 2, and episode one and two but they also have Left for Dead 1&2, Team fortress 1 and 2, Portal 1,2
then of course the mods counter strike and counter strike source, Day of Defeat,and deathmatch classic.
What do you have against using the same engine for other games?
Each company has a flagship franchise and Valve's is HL but they have made plenty of other games and they put enough effort into them that all except for one or two of them are awesome. How many other companies try to do this nowadays? Look at sonic team or look at nintendo with Mario, Microsoft with HALO or the never ending series of "Final" Fantasy games from square enix.
Call of Duty
released essentially the same game four years in a row now! not to mention the map packs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Call_of_Duty_games
15 titles in total
Most things 'Nintendo'
Don't get me wrong, I like Nintendo, but I'd like to see some new franchises.
Mario of course is the most milked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mario_video_games_by_year
223 titles!!!!!!
Star Wars
You all know what I mean, that franchise has been milked since before most of us were born!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_video_games
92 titles, not including expansions and cellphone games
Guitar Hero/Rock band
Seriously! not only do they have a ridiculous amount of titles, but they make you buy cheap-quality, over-priced controllers costing several hundred dollars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero
24 titles
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Band
10 titles
World of Warcraft
Sunk hundreds of dollars into that game myself(initial fee, subscriptions, expansions), got to end game once, enjoyed it, played more end game for a few patches, it just seemed the same to me.... It feels like all dungeons and raids use the same basic formula.
Runescape
No amount of graphical updates will ever make point/click level grinding fun.
Naruto
How many Naruto games are there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_Of_Naruto_Games
37!
that is A LOT, considering the first came out in 2003!
released essentially the same game four years in a row now! not to mention the map packs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Call_of_Duty_games
15 titles in total
Most things 'Nintendo'
Don't get me wrong, I like Nintendo, but I'd like to see some new franchises.
Mario of course is the most milked
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mario_video_games_by_year
223 titles!!!!!!
Star Wars
You all know what I mean, that franchise has been milked since before most of us were born!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Wars_video_games
92 titles, not including expansions and cellphone games
Guitar Hero/Rock band
Seriously! not only do they have a ridiculous amount of titles, but they make you buy cheap-quality, over-priced controllers costing several hundred dollars
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guitar_Hero
24 titles
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Band
10 titles
World of Warcraft
Sunk hundreds of dollars into that game myself(initial fee, subscriptions, expansions), got to end game once, enjoyed it, played more end game for a few patches, it just seemed the same to me.... It feels like all dungeons and raids use the same basic formula.
Runescape
No amount of graphical updates will ever make point/click level grinding fun.
Naruto
How many Naruto games are there?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_Of_Naruto_Games
37!
that is A LOT, considering the first came out in 2003!
Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa whoa. Stop right there.Calcium said:
Those are some good fuckin' games and you know it.
OT: It has to be Star Wars. There is no series on this earth that has surpassed all of the games, comics, books, movies, TV shows, toys and other paraphernalia that George Lucas has somehow ceaselessly sucked from that galaxy far, far away.
