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2fish said:
In LOTR I am not sure if it is a hole but the scene when the two hobbits are tied up then their ork keepers are attacked. Their hands are tied, then in one scene hobbit rolls and hands are now untied. What did I miss?
It might've been cut out in the theatrical version, but in the extended version it shows Merry cutting himself free on one of the dead orc's daggers. It's a lot like how the one scene that set up Boromir's entire character was edited.

And, again, I ask:

WHY IN HELL'S BAD NAME DID LINK TURN INTO A WOLF?!
 

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.

hate to rehash all this....but you know....that marine was sent in there to tell the natives that they were just sitting ontop of the stuff they wanted and they would have probably gladly moved when asked...not sleep with some blue chic...oh and by the by blatant rip off of fern gully and pocahuntus with a smear of halo over the top
 
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*quite sizable snip*
Ok, so....Cortana was made by humans using forerunner tech, then? Because in Reach, you find her in a massive underground forerunner structure, so I assumed she was an ancient forerunner AI. But your explanation makes more sense. And I suppose the soda-can thing I was talking about could have been some kind of storage unit, like a substitute for Master Chief's head.
 

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So, I've been meaning to ask all the Escapists about this one for ages. It's Halo Reach.


Okay, so in the second last mission of the game it's revealed that that Doctor Lady has discovered something underground in an alien temple, a "latchkey discovery" she calls it. Turns out it's Cortana, the AI you spend the rest of the entire Halo series hanging out with. So the final mission is to deliver this AI to Captain Keyes, on the Pillar of Autumn. As everyone knows, this is the ship you (the Master Chief) is on at the beginning of the first Halo game. It's explained at the beginning of that game that the Pillar of Autumn did a pretty much random slip space drive jump to avoid leading the Covenant fleet to Earth. Your job is then to escort Cortana off the ship and avoid the enemy capturing her.
SO the problem is: HOW THE HELL DOES CORTANA KNOW ALL THIS STUFF? We just dug her out of the ground a few hours ago, tops! Yet she acts like she's known the Captain, the crew and the Covenant for years! She apparently even knows Master Chief, who's been in cryo genic sleep the whole time!

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure the manual for Combat Evolved straight up tells you Cortana is one of the most advanced AI's ever constructed by the human race. But we just dug her up! And how on earth did she "choose" the Master Chief as the Spartan she wanted to "work with"?! And what did she mean by "work with"?! She just got dug up, she has no idea where she's going, she has no idea they'll accidently end up at the first Halo ring, she has no idea what it does!

I'm sorry, I loved Reach, but the discovery that the pay load was Cortana was totally bogus. It was a pointless "Aha!" moment directed at fan boys at the complete expense of the continuity of the storyline.

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Cortana wasn't the latchkey, she was studying it. She was a clone of Dr Halsey and had been around for a few months. As for the latchkey, my only guess was it was the giant purple ball found behind the lab.
 

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anything that happened in FABLE 2
just pick one thing i'll wait... see the plot holes?
i'know'right???
brief summary of wtf moments in one long run on sentence with spoilers;
Childhood, music box, dog's life span, how the guards found the children, you sister dies from a gunshot but you survive in sucsession- 1 gunshot and two 3 story falls unto a stone road at the age of ten, why you hold no resentment twoard the gipsy woman who caused the events to unfold as they did, why you obey this gipsys every order, why a road is blocked because of bandits (essencially giveing them free targets), the spire, no opponent carries pocket change, infinitely interchaneable spawning towsnpeople no matter how manny times you kill them, why (some) bandits know magic, why the '3 other heros' have any importance to the story, gipsy woman has the power of teleportation, why cant we just go to the spire and kill lucian? , second hero posesses enoughf willpower at his weakest to destroy ships yet can't fend off a bunch of sword carrying louts?, why reaver is such an ass, why we can't kill reaver, why we can'k kill reaver (yes i said it again but come on! nobody likes reaver! dark elves couldn't like this guy!) after he betrayes you, why couldn't i kill lucian in the spire when i could just fireball his ass?, why do i need to win in a bloody arena to become 'worthy' enoughf to join an army of nameless faceless louts?, why dispite aquireing officer status in said army am i not armed untill i take a sword and gun off a corpse?, hero thing aside how do i survive a gunshot to the face?, why did my dog have to die (LUCIAN MUST DIIIIIIIIE) and my faimily- if any (...meh), how the hell did i port to the main room of the spire?, why is a music box the key to defeating a madman?, why can't i kill reaver...AFTER HE KILLSTEALS MY SOLE MOTOVATION FOR A ROARING RAMPAGE OF REVENGE FOR LIKE 50 YEARS and just killed everything i bloody cared about again (dog), why don't i get to see my sister if i chose the 2'nd option in the 'big choice' and instead get a letter from out of nowere? why do we essencially give the most POWERFULL and DANGEROUS structure known to anyone to a crazy gypsy lady?.
im sorry but if we go any further south were going to find the bottom of the freaken ocean.
 

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Jacob's loyalty mission. The ship had been crashed for ten years, devoid of any contact with the outside world, and yet they are using the very recently developed mechs and thermal clip based weapons.

There were a couple of others in the game, but this one really stuck out!
 

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theSovietConnection said:
I still think the most glaring plothole in the movie was the way everything just united against the humans, though.
Everything united against the humans because the planet was a sentient being.
 

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Bebus said:
Jacob's loyalty mission. The ship had been crashed for ten years, devoid of any contact with the outside world, and yet they are using the very recently developed mechs and thermal clip based weapons.

There were a couple of others in the game, but this one really stuck out!
Yeah and what about when

when jack can amazingly destroy 2 giant YMCA mechs like nothing then can barely do anything when in actual combat
 

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Terminator 3 they just DESTROYED everything that is required to build Skynet yet it still gets build
 

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crudus said:
Just showing butterflies doesn't do anything for someone who doesn't know what they symbolize. Personally, I assumed they were symbolizing Gandolf going to his happy place to think or something like that.
Turn the volume up next time, you can actually hear him speaking to them in another language.

Much of what you see as a plot hole in that film needs a bit of volume or a slow down.

Biggest plot hole(s) for me would have to be (obvious): 300: How did the story of the death-sphere at the end get told if the persians didn't tell it ;) (Poetic License)

Any time travel episode of Star Trek

Pretty much any X-Files "here-is-an-alien-no-wait-its-a-human-conspiracy" episode or plot twist.

The entirety of 24's lack of urination.
 

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HT_Black said:
Why the Hell did Link turn into a wolf in Twilight Princess? It still baffles me, to this very goddang day.
Link had the Triforce of Courage, this somehow turns him into his animal form rather than a ghost somehow.

I have one, just to name a few. In Series Five of Heroes, the events of Series One are depicted as being two and a half years ago, despite very probably being shorter, yet Matt Parkman's son is still a baby when he should be a young toddler at least by this point.

Ok, maybe not the most obvious but it didn't make a lot of sense to me at the time.
 

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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
1. They want to mine the area, nuking it from orbit is not conducive to civilian mining efforts. Even kinetic energy weapons are likely to really screw up the mining options.

2. Bad strategy, fine you've now got this tank with guns etc, whats to stop a couple na'vi climbing on the tank from behind bashing the hatch open with rocks and knifing the crew to death?

3. I always thought of this in terms of velocity, when the na'vi's arrows are bouncing off the helo's they're firing along ballistic trajectories from stationary ground positions, the arrows lose a lot of power in flight due to wind/gravity/etc and hit the targets at odd angles. When they're popping arrows through helo's they're on those bird things, firing directly while diving, higher initial speed = higher potential damage added to by gravity, still lessened by wind resistance but what the hell right?

Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a ***** in space!

Also I would argue that the bows and arrows are hunting tools not war tools, Jake likely would have had them increase the draw strength and sharpen the arrows for a better armour piercing effect, but since this wasn't shown in the movie... *shrugs*

4. If you genuinely believe 'the bad guys won' take some classes on morality and see a shrink.

Edited to add cool paraphrase.
 

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2fish said:
1. They had inside help so there?
2. The circus guy did it, I mean circus people can do anything.
1. The only people in on it were the eleven Ocean hired. Sure you could argue the Russian guy was part of it but he doesn't have access to the vault and I am sure he didn't know what Danny was actually doing in the vent.
2. Still no. There was only one point he was in the vault and we saw how he got there. There are barely any room for him in that thing, let alone 6 bags of hooker pamphlets.
From IMDB:

Plot holes: The DVD commentary admits that there was no way in which all the flyers that were carried out of the casino and driven to the airport could have been in the vault.
 

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Titanic
Hmm... so everyone who falls into the water freezes to death within a minute? Have you ever counted how many times Jack and Rose have to swim/dive INSIDE the ship?

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Why's everyone making such a fuzz when Jake gets lost on the planet? Simply disconnect him from the Avatar and let him tell you where he is!
 

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DragonChi said:
LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.
Ahhh...great stuff "How it should have ended"!
 

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Judgement101 said:
Littlee300 said:
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1. Why didn't you orbital bomb those tree huggers
2. Just drop two tank on top of their main base :p
3. How they are able to sharpen the spears but they can go through bullet proof gas. I mean if you can sharpen them, so they can't be too hard... (my logic may be flawed, don't be ass holes when proving it)
4. Maybe I am just being a baby because the bad guys won.
My issue with that movie is that they spend all this time saying they are after a mineral then blow up the only thing stopping them from getting it yet they completely ignore it to try to wipe out the aliens for no better reason than assholeism.
Just posting because I'm addicted to TVTropes, but:

1: The Corp wasn't a military group, it was simply private contractors made mostly of ex-soldiers. I doubt that they had the ability to attempt orbital bombardment. After all, they seem fairly arrogant, and I doubt the Stockholders would be happy with them packing orbital bombardment weaponry against an enemy armed with bows and arrows.
You don't need weaponry to bombard someone from orbit. They came there on a starship, all they have to do is chuck asteroids at them, with absolute impunity.
It's not even hard, anyone with any decent level of maths ability could do the math, so people that can build and pilot FTL starships could certainly do it.
 

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crudus said:
How did the hooker pamphlets get into the vault?

Darth Kitty said:
Ha, pretty much the entire series of Dragonball, Why don't trunks and goten fuse and beat the crap out of everyone? Why don't they go along with Goku when he goes off to save the galaxy with Pan, the weakest character in the universe? Why is Pan alive? Why does Gohan, the coolest character ever fall to the wayside, while the brats fuse and save the world? etc. etc.
The first one is explained actually. They like to show off. The second one probably has something to do with the voice actors. Pan is alive because of Goku. Dragon Ball Z was planned for the torch to be passed from Goku to Gohan. My guess is the audience didn't respond well to Goku not being the center of the series.
Actually the creator didn't like Gohan, not so much the audience. He felt that Gohan didn't "fit" the role well enough, you can thank Chichi for that.
 

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star wars movie: 3 we know the plot from start to finish, just some minor events were "huh, wasent expecting like like that, but sure, ok"
 

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DragonChi said:
Lightslei said:
DragonChi said:
LOTR..the Giant Eagle Race could just fly someone with the ring right into Mordor, into mount doom and drop off the ring. completely bypassing hours of unnecessary bother.
Yes, because the giant floating all seeing eye in the sky wouldn't see a group of people and army of birds flying right at his country...

and not have time to prepare a completely devastating aerial assault.


The point of the entire books (which they screwed up royally) was that they were supposed to be discreet.
I'm aware of all that, but this thread is meant to be theoretical though isn't it?....its still potentially possible if planned right.
and if something goes wrong then Sauron has the ring! even if the eagles could beat the Ring Wraiths and thier Drgon thingies that I forget the names of there isn't much of a chance that the Ring wouldn't be obtained by the enemy anyway, I mean, it's not like they don't know where you're going.

that being said a joint effort with the eagles and the armies of men might have worked, so you're probably right. but I wouldn't risk the ring returning to some guy who has learned his leasson on how he can be defeated

Madara XIII said:
HOW is it that Trunks can go back in time and be able to only change JUST ONE event?!??
what did he change? I thought he went back to his unchanged future but he was just much more powerful. he just played a part in an alternate reality


Curtisthekiller said:
anything that happened in FABLE 2
just pick one thing i'll wait... see the plot holes?
i'know'right???
brief summary of wtf moments in one long run on sentence with spoilers;
Childhood, music box, dog's life span, how the guards found the children, you sister dies from a gunshot but you survive in sucsession- 1 gunshot and two 3 story falls unto a stone road at the age of ten, why you hold no resentment twoard the gipsy woman who caused the events to unfold as they did, why you obey this gipsys every order, why a road is blocked because of bandits (essencially giveing them free targets), the spire, no opponent carries pocket change, infinitely interchaneable spawning towsnpeople no matter how manny times you kill them, why (some) bandits know magic, why the '3 other heros' have any importance to the story, gipsy woman has the power of teleportation, why cant we just go to the spire and kill lucian? , second hero posesses enoughf willpower at his weakest to destroy ships yet can't fend off a bunch of sword carrying louts?, why reaver is such an ass, why we can't kill reaver, why we can'k kill reaver (yes i said it again but come on! nobody likes reaver! dark elves couldn't like this guy!) after he betrayes you, why couldn't i kill lucian in the spire when i could just fireball his ass?, why do i need to win in a bloody arena to become 'worthy' enoughf to join an army of nameless faceless louts?, why dispite aquireing officer status in said army am i not armed untill i take a sword and gun off a corpse?, hero thing aside how do i survive a gunshot to the face?, why did my dog have to die (LUCIAN MUST DIIIIIIIIE) and my faimily- if any (...meh), how the hell did i port to the main room of the spire?, why is a music box the key to defeating a madman?, why can't i kill reaver...AFTER HE KILLSTEALS MY SOLE MOTOVATION FOR A ROARING RAMPAGE OF REVENGE FOR LIKE 50 YEARS and just killed everything i bloody cared about again (dog), why don't i get to see my sister if i chose the 2'nd option in the 'big choice' and instead get a letter from out of nowere? why do we essencially give the most POWERFULL and DANGEROUS structure known to anyone to a crazy gypsy lady?.
im sorry but if we go any further south were going to find the bottom of the freaken ocean.
you didn't include a huge (and likely intended) plothole. the Gypsy, Theresa was your sister from the original Fable. a book in the ruined Heroes acedemy library said the old Hero obtained the Sword of Aeons which can only be obtained by killing Theresa!