Movie Defense Force: Waterworld
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That's funny, I didn't realize I also posted on this site under the name "Worgen." (Explaining The Joke: I have said this exact same thing about the movie.)Worgen said:
Jim, I just like you more and more. I always thought Waterworld was a fun, silly, cheesy action movie with a great look to it, but people act like everyone can agree that it's just objectively bad or something.
It seems like I'm the target audience for this show (yes, me personally), since I prefer to enjoy movies for what they are rather than nitpick every detail, and I'm pretty much alone in that respect in my social circle. So I think this show could very well become my favorite one on the site.
(When are you doing Repo? I want that episode now!)
I remember watching it back in the 90s and thinking it was relatively mediocre. Not terrible, just boring. I haven't seen Face Off, but at least two of the movies you mention had several elements that pushed them above Waterworld in terms of quality: Independence day was was actually funny, not just silly (i.e. it had comedy that actually worked, and is still used as the basis of jokes to this day) and an adversary that seemed legitimately threatening. Hook had strong and memorable characters, as well as a theme to which children and their parents could relate.
While the somewhat over-the-top action sequences, reliance on slapstick in some scenes, and devotion to action tropes is the same in all three, pretending that this means there aren't other good reasons Independence Day and Hook were better received (and continue to be better thought of) is entirely disingenuous.
While the somewhat over-the-top action sequences, reliance on slapstick in some scenes, and devotion to action tropes is the same in all three, pretending that this means there aren't other good reasons Independence Day and Hook were better received (and continue to be better thought of) is entirely disingenuous.
I never saw Waterworld due to the terrible reception it's gotten, but now I think I'll have to seek out a copy...
Honestly, I'm surprised more movies/TV shows/games haven't explored the 'flooded earth' idea. This and Wind Waker are the only two examples that come to mind.
Honestly, I'm surprised more movies/TV shows/games haven't explored the 'flooded earth' idea. This and Wind Waker are the only two examples that come to mind.
I can agree somewhat. I didn't think the movie was particularly good, but I liked it for some of the reasons listed. I figured out now that I wanted to see more of the floating cities and exploration of "old earth". They created a neat world and only let you peek at it.
I always thought this movie was bashed as a flop and not necessarily a bad movie. It killed Costner because no one wants a star that cannot attract viewers. That's how it worked then and how it works now.
Okay firstly i thought it was explained dirt was important because they had a few Plant seeds left and dirt could be used to grow the seeds into food, something kinda hard to find in post-apocalypse mega ocean.
Also i always wondered who these people were that hated this movie. it was a fun little romp through a flooded world. i agree with all points. It wasn't great, but it was fun.
Also i always wondered who these people were that hated this movie. it was a fun little romp through a flooded world. i agree with all points. It wasn't great, but it was fun.
It was YEARS after the movie came out, and years after I first watched it, that I realized that people didn't like Waterworld. When I heard it lost money, even then I never figured that it was widely disliked. I always figured it was a sort of cult classic, even comparable to Mad Max, just a bad business decision. It was hardley a classy, challenging tale, but it was very fun, and the setting was great.
To this day, whenever the idea of something being a myth comes up, it will immediately be compared to dry land.
To this day, whenever the idea of something being a myth comes up, it will immediately be compared to dry land.
Water World was a fun movie but it was also a bad movie. The one aspect of this whole movie defence force that has me rather confused is that these movies were declared bad by general concences because thats what people thought of it. Jim's defence aproaches the subject as if some evil movie overlord stamped bad on the cover and that was that. you can't tell someone they were wrong for liking or not liking something.
I saw water world, I thought it was fun but also a bad movie and have had no inclination to ever see it again. What about that has to be defended against? I just don't see the appeal of this segment... and I kind of hope Jim tries again with something else. there's nothing wrong with trying something new but much like a bad movie I just don't like this segment despite it having good bits...
I saw water world, I thought it was fun but also a bad movie and have had no inclination to ever see it again. What about that has to be defended against? I just don't see the appeal of this segment... and I kind of hope Jim tries again with something else. there's nothing wrong with trying something new but much like a bad movie I just don't like this segment despite it having good bits...
I find this movie incredebly boring, though not as boring as The Postman! There´s really no reason why it should run for 2½ hours, bland action scenes and a story that´s going nowhere.
I wanted to say all thisJarinArenos said:
The problem with the dirt he has is that it was from the (new) sea floor, it would be saturated with salt and unusable for farming unless it was cleaned and he clearly didnt have the capacity to clean it.
I think its funny that people point at his filter and say "you cant drink pee" when there are currently (and have been for some time) methods to filter waste water, in fact most of the water you drink is filtered waste water. But there are far better ways to make drinkable water given an abundance of sea water and multiple metal vessals to catch the water in. Take a pot fill it with salt water put a smaller pot in the middle as a "collection vessel" put a concave lid with a nub to cause the drips to go into the center collection chamber. Its not super fast but it works and he has nothing but time.
I thought this a pretty ugly mess. About the only think I care to remember was Jean Tripplehorn's body double in the failed seduction scene (and... why'd it fail? He isn't a selfless person.)
I don't think Independence Day was good, just more fun, less ugly, with more fun things to look upon. It too is no classic. But I put it a notch above this.
I don't think Independence Day was good, just more fun, less ugly, with more fun things to look upon. It too is no classic. But I put it a notch above this.
Three things I want from this:
1. Indiana Jones 4
2. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
3. Cars and Cars 2.
1. Indiana Jones 4
2. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
3. Cars and Cars 2.
It was just a matter of time until you did Waterworld, and now that you did, I have some new perspective on it. There's definitely no other post-apocalyptic movie like it, and we are being oversaturated with the zombies. Waterworld was definitely a product of its time, when stacked with the other big dumb '90's action flicks. Speaking of which, is Judge Dredd on the menu?
So did the postman (and that was a real turd-bomb). Remember that bit with Lisa watching The Postman on DVD? She said "Wow, this truly sucks!" and turned on director commentary, which was just Kevin Costner apologizing.Kenjitsuka said:
Now, the film has been long forgotten. But back when it was first released, indeed it received a lot of negative buzz. I think in time, the stigma it has received will be long forgotten as new generations watch without the expectations met at the time of the release, and people will enjoy the film more in its intended way - as a fun, fantastic action flick (not any of this serious crap we get in these overhyped Dark Knight flicks).shrekfan246 said:
I'm a big fan of 80's and 90's flicks, and Waterworld is definitely in my top 10. And, god, I love that boat Costner has.
I'm still waiting for an MMORPG based on Waterworld. A few years back, I created a thread about an idea for one.
