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Thaluikhain

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Yeah, if people like movies for their junky action and CGI, even if I don't, that seems fair enough. It's when people start saying the films are really clever or philosophical or something that gets annoying.
 
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That movie exists, it’s called District 9: spoilers, the human race still comes across as a bunch of fucking assholes.



I don’t feel lectured watching Avatar, and I’m quite happy to turn off my brain and enjoy the spectacle of the Dutch East India Company IN SPACE get the shit kicked out of them by the natives and few decent human beings on Pandora.

EDIT: Jesus this site is a fucking nightmare to use on mobile.
Haven't watched it myself but doesn't District 9 skip all the actually interesting parts of that storyline and is just a thinly veiled allegory for a real world event? Apartide or something.
 

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Haven't watched it myself but doesn't District 9 skip all the actually interesting parts of that storyline and is just a thinly veiled allegory for a real world event? Apartide or something.
Nominally, but having seen it they sorta then skip all that and make it about generic evil capitalists and CGI action.
 
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I saw District 9 a few times, and found it just to be alright, but @Thaluikhain is dead on correct about the movie turning in to standard evil corporation, and the Apratide parallels are mostly background noise and are barely used. Niell Blomkamp became a one hit director. Elysium is a 6/10 movie that has the bad shaky-cam/quick cut action. This movie is even more obsolete because the live-action Battle Angel exists now and is so much better. Chappy I deliberately chose not to go see, and still have not watched.
 

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Never watched the show, but I've also never heard anyone say anything bad about it. Given that you don't have a positive opinion on it and that's a rarity, could you describe what your problems with it are? I'd like to hear a different opinion on it.
Breaking Bad was a solid show but not great or greatest show ever. The show had an air of pretentiousness to it like the scenes in Spanish didn't have subtitles and the one season always opened with some artsy shots of a stuffed animal in a pool but the event that caused that really wasn't some major thing anyway. I recall thinking the ending was fine but nothing great, I feel like the show could've ended a season sooner (but it's been awhile and don't remember too much now). The wife was so horribly written and couldn't stand her.
 

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Movies need to stop doing low-volume conversations then cutting to helicopters. I've noticed it more and more during late-night sessions where I have to jump and get the controller to turn the volume down. I understand wanting to change the tone from scene to scene, but does it have to be so jarring? I'm more interested in where the characters are going and less interested in how they're getting there. Less helicopters. That's not even a hot take, just me b*tching.
 
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Movies need to stop doing low-volume conversations then cutting to helicopters. I've noticed it more and more during late-night sessions where I have to jump and get the controller to turn the volume down. I understand wanting to change the tone from scene to scene, but does it have to be so jarring? I'm more interested in where the characters are going and less interested in how they're getting there. Less helicopters. That's not even a hot take, just me b*tching.
Yeah, I can't stand how movies are mixed. At least in video games you can adjust music and sound effects and whatnot as I always lower that stuff to be at least half of what the voice volume is in pretty much every single game.
 

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Yeah, I can't stand how movies are mixed. At least in video games you can adjust music and sound effects and whatnot as I always lower that stuff to be at least half of what the voice volume is in pretty much every single game.
Isn't that less to do with mixing and more to do with things like speaker placement? Like when 5.1 systems started becoming popular the prevailing wisdom was that rear speakers were for dialogue and they should be the ones closest to where you're sitting and all the gunfire and explosions and shit came (mainly) out of the front and centre speakers which would logically be further away from you.
 
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Isn't that less to do with mixing and more to do with things like speaker placement? Like when 5.1 systems started becoming popular the prevailing wisdom was that rear speakers were for dialogue and they should be the ones closest to where you're sitting and all the gunfire and explosions and shit came (mainly) out of the front and centre speakers which would logically be further away from you.
Without looking it up, I'm not sure. I thought voice is for the center speaker most of the time at least. I'm pretty sure the volume levels are mixed to make the loud stuff loud.
 

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Without looking it up, I'm not sure. I thought voice is for the center speaker most of the time at least. I'm pretty sure the volume levels are mixed to make the loud stuff loud.
Oh I'm sure they are, but I was always under the impression that was because those speakers were further away. Maybe we can ask Ezekial, he's into the home cinema thing.
 
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Main issue I have with I, Robot is its title. If you take it as a standalone movie, it's a decent, if mindless, action movie. But if you claim to be an adaptation of a story (supposedly, it is primarily based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" out of the anthology I, Robot), you need to have more in common with the original than (kind of) the title, and the name of one of the characters (who went from an older man to a middle-aged woman in the movie). It also takes the Three Laws of Robotics concept that was key to the anthology and...well...does the OPPOSITE of what the Three Laws were meant for.
 
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Main issue I have with I, Robot is its title. If you take it as a standalone movie, it's a decent, if mindless, action movie. But if you claim to be an adaptation of a story (supposedly, it is primarily based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" out of the anthology I, Robot), you need to have more in common with the original than (kind of) the title, and the name of one of the characters (who went from an older man to a middle-aged woman in the movie). It also takes the Three Laws of Robotics concept that was key to the anthology and...well...does the OPPOSITE of what the Three Laws were meant for.
Partially the reason why I call it the best Matrix prequel ever made.
 

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Isaac Florentine is one of the best action directors a our generation, and I do not want Hollywood swooping him up. He's not an expert storyteller, but he knows how to keep it simple and straight to the point. Florentine has done well successfully, and I would never want him to get worse quality work, but if he wants to move up I don't blame him. But I prefer he stay in the street to DVD or streaming market. That way his vision won't ever be compromised or barely messed with by studio interference.
 

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Main issue I have with I, Robot is its title. If you take it as a standalone movie, it's a decent, if mindless, action movie. But if you claim to be an adaptation of a story (supposedly, it is primarily based on "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" out of the anthology I, Robot), you need to have more in common with the original than (kind of) the title, and the name of one of the characters (who went from an older man to a middle-aged woman in the movie). It also takes the Three Laws of Robotics concept that was key to the anthology and...well...does the OPPOSITE of what the Three Laws were meant for.
Don't watch the Starship Troopers movie then.
 
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I have seen the Starship Troopers movie, and that one is...a bit different in that it is actively subverting the book, rather than simply ignoring it. It's a fine movie, and a terrible adaptation, but it was designed to be a terrible adaptation because Verhoven (I think that was the director of Starship Troopers, right?) thought the book's "rah rah military" attitude was almost horrifying, and set out to skewer that perspective as much as he could. Keeping the title was just rubbing salt in the wound.

With adaptations like I, Robot, you get the sense that the screenwriters maybe read the blurb on the back of the book, and that's it. With Verhoven, he definitely read the book, he just decided he didn't like it to the point where he wanted to do everything the book didn't.
 
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I have seen the Starship Troopers movie, and that one is...a bit different in that it is actively subverting the book, rather than simply ignoring it. It's a fine movie, and a terrible adaptation, but it was designed to be a terrible adaptation because Verhoven (I think that was the director of Starship Troopers, right?) thought the book's "rah rah military" attitude was almost horrifying, and set out to skewer that perspective as much as he could. Keeping the title was just rubbing salt in the wound.
Verhoven didn’t even read the book. He, supposedly, skimmed the first two chapters and called it a day.
He couldn’t have actively adapted or deconstructed a book he didn’t even read.

From what I gather the movie started as its own thing under a different title until they got the rights to ‘Starhip Troopers’.
 

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Starship Troopers will forever remain a mystery to me. It's so bad, but so many people run to its defense as a great tongue-in-cheek nod to bad movies. I mean, since when did Hollywood think it was a good idea to make bad movies on purpose? Too much of the film is not self-aware enough to have been done purposefully. I watched it once, and even that was too much. But then we also have Once Upon A Time In Hollywood which shamelessly wasted everyone's time and still got Oscar nods, so maybe my cinematic palette isn't sophisticated enough?