Moving the New 360 Can Damage Disks

[Hazzaslagga]

why can't they just fix the bloody thing. mind you my xbox has being going 3+ years with only a disk drive error that i replaced fixed. but then again i almost lost dead rising because of this.

 

[TerribleAssassin]

Didn't the original 360 do this as well?

In any case, I think it's more "improper use" than "design flaw", but if it renders disks unusable after a slight nudge, then something's wrong.

I call design flaw

Yet no word on how the Xbox is slimmer its gonna overheat and casuse more RROD's.

 

[Xiorell]

ummm... well, i usually unpack my console, find where it's going to live and then ya know... leave it there.... I do not understand why you'd suddenly think "Hey, that console really should be over there"

 

[Novania]

Isn't it a 'No Duh?' to not move the thing while its reading a disc?

 

[Guy32]

It's not really a big problem...

 

[Hashime]

Someone Earlier said there was an easy fix, put a piece of foam beside the lens, so the disk can't hit it. This should work, and I've seen thins on many devices. It is Microsoft's greed that stopped this fix.

 

[mrpenguinismyhomeboy]

Oh My god, I really want to try this.

Goodbye, AC2.

 

[Swifteye]

Umm. Duh? I mean I found that out on the old xbox 360 and I hazard a guess that any other system can damage a running disk if it got jostled or fell over.

I like the new design though. Looks stylin.

 

[ScorpSt]

Handy Rule-of-Thumb:
If an Optical Disk (ie: CD, DVD, BluRay) snaps into place before loading, it's probably safe to move whatever's running. Same with slot loading.
If it just sits loose in a tray, Don't Move While It's Running!!!!!

When was the last time you turned your Desktop on it's side while the CD or DVD drive was running? Try doing that and then complaining to whoever made the drive that it's a design flaw. They'll laugh at you like you said your cup holder broke.

 

[sabercrusader]

Argh, why would anyone move any console while it's operating? I usually take the habit of turning off my console and taking out any DVDs inside before moving it, just to be sure.

And speaking of ungodly noise, I got Need for Speed: Underground for PS2 as an Xmas-gift a few years back. Our two cats of course decided that running really fast and bumping my console so it fell from vertical to horizontal smack into the floor was a really good idea. (The sound was something like what I imagine two robots having sex sounds like) and the disc got massively fucked. Fortunately, the customer service was nice and I got a new copy, no extra charge.

Thank-you. You've just helped me figure out why MS designed their console to be vertical. After decades of consoles being horizontal, MS was the 1st to come up with the *bright* idea of making theirs vertical. That never made sense to me. We never saw a vertical VCR, DVD player, or any other home theater component. Why a vertical game console??? Now, I see it's the perfect design to get gamers everywhere with children and pets to buy the same game more than once. Even if it was covered by warranty it'd inflate the number of games sold, which is good for their reputation. MS is following this train of thought by making a new 360 that's not compatible with the old 360's hard drive, power brick, or even memory cards.

My 360's provided me with countless hours of gaming fun, but I hate MS more & more because of continued crap like this.

By the way people, I agree nothing reading a disc should be moved while it's being used, (excluding mobile devices,) but if a company's going to make a product be vertical, they should be able to have half a brain and realize accidental tipping over just became a real possibility, unlike any DVD player that's always horizontal. Portable CD players never scratch the disc. A mechanism already exists to protect a spinning disc from damage when the player's moved. MS revised the 360's design. This was the perfect time for them to fix one of their design flaws. That's why people are mad this problem still exists.

You have no Credible Excuse, YOU CAN PUT THE CONSOLE HORIZANTALY, and besides the PS2 and the PS3 are the EXACT SAME WAY!

 

[ScRaT_the_destroyer]

it makes perfect sense that it would do this, it uses a desktop optical drive, no?

and desktops arent usually known for their mobility are they?

also WHAT IDIOT MOVES A CONSOLE?

 

[swolf]

I don't see this as a problem since I don't move the console while the disk is moving anyways. Only once have I ever moved my console with a disk inside so what's the problem?

Doesn't this happen with almost any cd/dvd/blu-ray player? We just never move them so never know. Sure my laptop says in the instructions that it should be kept on a flat, level surface and not moved while switched on...

But you rarely flip your laptop 90 degrees, so I guess this isn't as much of a problem. (Okay, one might put a laptop in a bag or something, but I would assume any modern laptop goes into sleep mode when closed)

The alternative is that people don't engage in a monumentally stupid activity that is explicitly mentioned in the user manual.

This should be a sticker on all electronic equipment sold.
"DO NOT ENGAGE IN MONUMENTALLY STUPID ACTIVITIES EXPLICITLY MENTIONED IN USER MANUAL"

Seriously!

Your asking people to read and follow simple directions? Isn't that a lot to ask? /sarcasm.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Who moves the 360 or any console besides this guy while it is still running you are asking for your game to be eaten. It is not like the disk is near paper thin and even the slightest scratches can ruin it. I seriously don't understand stand people. They need to tgake way more care of their shit.

 

[Buizel91]

I cam see it now.
Your new puppy is running around, happy as can be. Your cat hunches next to the Slim, fearful. The puppy notices the cat and jumps at it. The cat jumps and topples the Slim. You watch, transfixed, as the console falls and ruins that game you waited several months and coughed up many dollars for.

The next day there are two fresh mound of dirt in your backyard. Damn dirty animals.

That's a reason i do not leave my consoles on the floor, my cat is very curious likes to try and "roll" everything like a ball.

so yeh, mine is perched on a nice little shelf out of reach of her grubby paws

 

[Buizel91]

Argh, why would anyone move any console while it's operating? I usually take the habit of turning off my console and taking out any DVDs inside before moving it, just to be sure.

And speaking of ungodly noise, I got Need for Speed: Underground for PS2 as an Xmas-gift a few years back. Our two cats of course decided that running really fast and bumping my console so it fell from vertical to horizontal smack into the floor was a really good idea. (The sound was something like what I imagine two robots having sex sounds like) and the disc got massively fucked. Fortunately, the customer service was nice and I got a new copy, no extra charge.

Thank-you. You've just helped me figure out why MS designed their console to be vertical. After decades of consoles being horizontal, MS was the 1st to come up with the *bright* idea of making theirs vertical. That never made sense to me. We never saw a vertical VCR, DVD player, or any other home theater component. Why a vertical game console??? Now, I see it's the perfect design to get gamers everywhere with children and pets to buy the same game more than once. Even if it was covered by warranty it'd inflate the number of games sold, which is good for their reputation. MS is following this train of thought by making a new 360 that's not compatible with the old 360's hard drive, power brick, or even memory cards.

My 360's provided me with countless hours of gaming fun, but I hate MS more & more because of continued crap like this.

By the way people, I agree nothing reading a disc should be moved while it's being used, (excluding mobile devices,) but if a company's going to make a product be vertical, they should be able to have half a brain and realize accidental tipping over just became a real possibility, unlike any DVD player that's always horizontal. Portable CD players never scratch the disc. A mechanism already exists to protect a spinning disc from damage when the player's moved. MS revised the 360's design. This was the perfect time for them to fix one of their design flaws. That's why people are mad this problem still exists.

You have no Credible Excuse, YOU CAN PUT THE CONSOLE HORIZANTALY, and besides the PS2 and the PS3 are the EXACT SAME WAY!

Along with the Wii

 

[Buizel91]

Someone Earlier said there was an easy fix, put a piece of foam beside the lens, so the disk can't hit it. This should work, and I've seen thins on many devices. It is Microsoft's greed that stopped this fix.

Nope happens with near enough everything, DVD players and what not.

 

[Hashime]

Someone Earlier said there was an easy fix, put a piece of foam beside the lens, so the disk can't hit it. This should work, and I've seen thins on many devices. It is Microsoft's greed that stopped this fix.

Nope happens with near enough everything, DVD players and what not.

Then how does a laptop, portable cd player, PS3, Wii, ... not wreck disks due to accidental bumps?

 

[ScorpSt]

Someone Earlier said there was an easy fix, put a piece of foam beside the lens, so the disk can't hit it. This should work, and I've seen thins on many devices. It is Microsoft's greed that stopped this fix.

Nope happens with near enough everything, DVD players and what not.

Then how does a laptop, portable cd player, PS3, Wii, ... not wreck disks due to accidental bumps?

Read my above Rule-of-Thumb. Laptops and Portable CD Players (as well as the PSX and Gamecube) have trays that force you to secure the Disk before loading them. Slot loading devices (such as the Wii and PS3) Are designed specifically to secure the Disk automatically when loading.

Tray loading, which is standard in most non-portable Optical Drives, do not secure the disk when loading. While this can cause scratching if moved too much (not accidentally bumped, but yes, tipped over or god forbid, picked up and shaken), the trade off is typically a faster reading speed.

 

[Hashime]

Someone Earlier said there was an easy fix, put a piece of foam beside the lens, so the disk can't hit it. This should work, and I've seen thins on many devices. It is Microsoft's greed that stopped this fix.

Nope happens with near enough everything, DVD players and what not.

Then how does a laptop, portable cd player, PS3, Wii, ... not wreck disks due to accidental bumps?

Read my above Rule-of-Thumb. Laptops and Portable CD Players (as well as the PSX and Gamecube) have trays that force you to secure the Disk before loading them. Slot loading devices (such as the Wii and PS3) Are designed specifically to secure the Disk automatically when loading.

Tray loading, which is standard in most non-portable Optical Drives, do not secure the disk when loading. While this can cause scratching if moved too much (not accidentally bumped, but yes, tipped over or god forbid, picked up and shaken), the trade off is typically a faster reading speed.

The read speed is not directly effected by the disk securing device, laptop disk drives, or low profile drives can still reach the highest speeds, with little increase in price. M-soft just cheaped out, there is no excuse for not implementing an available technology to stop a well known problem.

 

[xanith02100]

Ah, so now the red rings are on the inside and touted as a feature. Sharp move Micro$oft.

I had to lol at that. Very clever use of a dollar sign too, btw.