Honestly who in there right mind would think it's a good idea to move anything while it's reading a disc. You just asking for trouble doing that.
Well, they have addressed and fixed SOME of the problems that cause the RROD. However, the RROD is the indication of an error, not an error in and of itself. It shows up for anything between a power failure, a power surge and your hard drive becoming pudding.USSR said:Um..
It did that before.
And haven't they "fixed" RROD almost three times already?
This is very true. And, as Straying Bullet said earlier, its one thing to move your console or PC whiling its loading a disk (its still stupid) but to rotate it a complete 90 degrees while the disk is spinning and not expect something shows a rather severe lack of intelligence.Rect Pola said:It's also the case for small computers. Laptops are designed to be moved but consoles and desktops aren't. Why would any of these things need to be moved while you're using them anyway?
Aaah, I see.wolfgirl90 said:Well, they have addressed and fixed SOME of the problems that cause the RROD. However, the RROD is the indication of an error, not an error in and of itself. It shows up for anything between a power failure, a power surge and your hard drive becoming pudding.
PS3 fanboy, with some reason.tghm1801 said:[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]
I mean, they may have fixed the Red Ring of Death issue, but isn't this worse?
However, I suppose most people don't really move their 360s whilst it's playing a disk.
Double Ps3 fanboy with no reasoningThe_root_of_all_evil said:Ah, so now the red rings are on the inside and touted as a feature. Sharp move Micro$oft.
Someone who is reasonable and smart.VanityGirl said:Isn't this a rule for erm... all consoles? I mean I've never moved my Wii, 360 or PS3 because it just seemed like a bad idea to move it with a disk in it.
That was really interesting (the wiki article), thank you.CaptainCrunch said:The problem is prevalent in all disc drives with a tray mount (a tray comes out of the drive, and you put the disc in). PS3 doesn't have this problem, because they opted for the more expensive slot mounting drive (you put the disc into a slot, and it pulls the disc into the drive.) Tray mounting drives don't really "squeeze" the disc very hard at all - instead, they rely on a retainer to keep the disc from flying off the spindle (the part that connects the motor to the disc). Slot mounting drives have to grip the disc tightly just to get it to the spindle in the first place, and are thus less susceptible to problems if you move them.
Slot mounting is not without its own set of problems. If there is a disk already in the drive, you can jam a second disk into the slot (if you are properly motivated or stupid), rendering the entire drive useless and potentially requiring replacement.
The only really fool-proof disc mounting option is the old-school caddy system. I kind of miss them, despite the impracticality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caddy_%28hardware%29
So yeah, everyone that believes this is some kind of design flaw has a couple decades of disc drive technology to catch up on.
Err...no?...that is incorrect...and writing all caps and bold doesn't magically render it true...you can try adding some italics or underline it...maybe that increases the verisimilitude...but I doubt it...Hopeless Bastard said:Just because it needs to be said again and again and again...
THIS IS A PROBLEM WITH EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY DISC BASED SYSTEM IN EXISTENCE!! EVEN PORTABLE CD/DVD PLAYERS CAN ONLY HANDLE SO MUCH ROTATIONAL MOVEMENT BEFORE THE DISC STRIKES A SURFACE RESULTING IN SHIT BEING SCRATCHED OUT OF!!
Seriously?...you defend Micro by saying they threw inferior Hardware on the market prematurely in complete knowledge of the problem?...the costs of a redesign during development is negligible compared to the cost of using components that don't burn in a mass produced electronic device...not to mention the possibility of loosing against Sony in the battle who has his console on the market first...Micro didn't assume most people knew to keep their shit in well ventilated areas...they assumed most people were stupid enough to buy crap...and they were right...and people are still buying it...I have to admit...it was quite a ingenious business move...creating broken consoles and then cultivating a myriad of fanboys defending the crap...Hopeless Bastard said:As far as previous "fails," its been proven for quite some time that the ecksbawcks "RROD" is a cooling issue. During development, they identified certain key components ran hot. Hot enough, that they'd burn out at ambient temperatures of 80°F. Usually computer components are rated to run at full capacity for extended periods at up to ambient temperatures of 95°F with "standard" cooling. A redesign would've cost, and microsoft assumed most people knew to keep their shit in well ventilated areas. They was wrong, yo.
Wait: why don't we do this? It hardly strikes me as impractical, and you'd be guaranteeing the safety of your disc while it was in the machine...CaptainCrunch said:The only really fool-proof disc mounting option is the old-school caddy system. I kind of miss them, despite the impracticality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caddy_%28hardware%29
I dont see why anyone would just turn over thier x-box while playing.tghm1801 said:[HEADING=1]FAIL, MICROSOFT. FAIL.[/HEADING]
I mean, they may have fixed the Red Ring of Death issue, but isn't this worse?
However, I suppose most people don't really move their 360s whilst it's playing a disk.