NATO Considers "Persecuting" Anonymous
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I love how Anonymous has gone from being practically a joke in-and-of itself, getting sensationalist reports on local Fox News channels, to being a group of hackers widely recognized, considered dangerous, and in some cases feared.
I find it funny how Anonymous is now something people hotly debate the nature of, despite still being mostly comprised of random people (in some cases fractured groups) making up memes and playing dumb pranks.
I wonder what the NATO officials reading /b/ will think of all this My Little Pony madness. (MLP is huge over there, that's just fact. Please don't hate me or derail this into another pony thread.)
Are you trying to take a jab at the United States? Or was that aimed at the United Kingdom?
At any rate, the US and UK may be a part of NATO, and founding members, but NATO works independently from the US/UK Military/Government.
NATO is an alliance. An amalgamation of the beliefs and ideals of several nations working together for mutual benefit. NATO is in no way an empire, or anything like one.
So, while (I think) I understand what you were trying to get at, perhaps you should pick your words more carefully next time.
I find it funny how Anonymous is now something people hotly debate the nature of, despite still being mostly comprised of random people (in some cases fractured groups) making up memes and playing dumb pranks.
I wonder what the NATO officials reading /b/ will think of all this My Little Pony madness. (MLP is huge over there, that's just fact. Please don't hate me or derail this into another pony thread.)
What the hell are you talking about?HankMan said:
Are you trying to take a jab at the United States? Or was that aimed at the United Kingdom?
At any rate, the US and UK may be a part of NATO, and founding members, but NATO works independently from the US/UK Military/Government.
NATO is an alliance. An amalgamation of the beliefs and ideals of several nations working together for mutual benefit. NATO is in no way an empire, or anything like one.
So, while (I think) I understand what you were trying to get at, perhaps you should pick your words more carefully next time.
When their regimes are harming innocent people and it's affecting their relationship with countries like Libya or Syria, they have every right to interfere.icame said:Could be wrong but I think Nato's job is just to defend any of its members when they come under attack, not to go out and take down regimes from foreign countries.buy teh haloz said:Hey, NATO! Remember these two assholes? You know, the ones who have been killing innocent men, women and children every single day in their 30 year regimes and are spilling even more blood to keep themselves from relinquishing power? It's okay! I have pictures of them:
Yeah, stop wasting your incompetently trying to pursue a group that has the ability to severely fuck you over by leaking all your information, and start spending that time to ensure that these two leave their countries and are placed in a fucking prison cell for the rest of their miserable existence!
Because if they just unceremoniously kill/overthrow them everything will immediately start to settle right? Politics being so self-stabilizing and unchanging and all that.buy teh haloz said:When their regimes are harming innocent people and it's affecting their relationship with countries like Libya or Syria, they have every right to interfere.icame said:Could be wrong but I think Nato's job is just to defend any of its members when they come under attack, not to go out and take down regimes from foreign countries.buy teh haloz said:Hey, NATO! Remember these two assholes? You know, the ones who have been killing innocent men, women and children every single day in their 30 year regimes and are spilling even more blood to keep themselves from relinquishing power? It's okay! I have pictures of them:
Yeah, stop wasting your incompetently trying to pursue a group that has the ability to severely fuck you over by leaking all your information, and start spending that time to ensure that these two leave their countries and are placed in a fucking prison cell for the rest of their miserable existence!
I fail to see how NATO could stop Anonymous, short of tracing all IP addresses on 4chan and sending armed teams to arrest and/or blow the fuck out of anyone inside.
Either that, or forcing the entire internet to shut down somehow, which doesn't seem to be very likely.
Either that, or forcing the entire internet to shut down somehow, which doesn't seem to be very likely.
Wait, who lost an empire? Nato is pretty big and constitutes a number of former empires. (America, at least, is still an empire, as it still has some colonies)HankMan said:
Gaddafi and Al-Assad have been given numerous chances to step down and relinquish power. Air raids or no air raids, sanctions or no sanctions, their answer has been an adamant "Fuck no." every single time. Worse yet, they're killing innocent men, women, and children, young and old to ensure that they hold onto power. We've gone past the point where there can be a "Peaceful Transition of Power". These "men" will be prosecuted for their crimes they've inflicted.Aeshi said:Because if they just unceremoniously kill/overthrow them everything will immediately start to settle right? Politics being so incredibly stable and unchanging and all that.buy teh haloz said:When their regimes are harming innocent people and it's affecting their relationship with countries like Libya or Syria, they have every right to interfere.icame said:Could be wrong but I think Nato's job is just to defend any of its members when they come under attack, not to go out and take down regimes from foreign countries.buy teh haloz said:Hey, NATO! Remember these two assholes? You know, the ones who have been killing innocent men, women and children every single day in their 30 year regimes and are spilling even more blood to keep themselves from relinquishing power? It's okay! I have pictures of them:
Yeah, stop wasting your incompetently trying to pursue a group that has the ability to severely fuck you over by leaking all your information, and start spending that time to ensure that these two leave their countries and are placed in a fucking prison cell for the rest of their miserable existence!
ESPECIALLY Gadaffi, who is, along with the rest of his family, a fucking monster. A monster who has described HIV as a peaceful virus, has called Obama the son of Africa, accused Israel of assassinating JFK, worked with Swiss Banks to launder his transactions, has spent time in an Egyptian asylum, and is spilling blood to ensure that he can continue his 42 year long rule. He still has the balls to say that his people love him in the midst of the Libyan Civil War.
Can I please repeat this again? WE. HAVE. GONE. PAST. THE. POINT. WHERE. THERE. CAN. BE. A. "PEACEFUL. TRANSITION". Their actions towards their people, coupled with the rampant corruption of their regimes and their reluctance to release power are the reasons why the Arab Uprisings happened to begin with.
Do I seriously need to bring up what happened in Egypt?
I mean, how exactly are they gonna infiltrate any important structures? It's not like regular members know anything more than who to DDoS (from the website), and core hackers (that are not even nearly as numerous as whole anon is) are safely hidden and the only way you know they've done something is when you see them on the news.Carlos Alexandre said:
Did you think before posting this?
only prob is anonymous is less a evil organisation with some sort of roster more like rabble where people just say thier anonymous.....
But to if i was anonymous core group i would lay low for a bit. Its not like NATO has a great staff on this but come on its freaking NATO,,,
But to if i was anonymous core group i would lay low for a bit. Its not like NATO has a great staff on this but come on its freaking NATO,,,
There shall be some serious awesome to be had here, and for some reason, I'm kinda expecting one of the guys from the military killing one of these people... with dire consequences. A bunch of bored kids on the internet have threatened the most expensive lot of murderers out there. I'd call that genius in any angle.
Issue is any one can be anonymous by definition. So trying to group Anonymous is ridiculous.
Anonymous is everyone and no one, everywhere and no where. Who Nato going to infiltrate 4chan? LOL what a riot.
So the government arrest and prosecutes one of Anonymous, 10 more random people will take his place. Anonymous is not like Al-Qaeda where they are Individuals with names. Considering for the longest time on any site Anonymous was the default name for someone to post under, as in this is an anonymous person, a random off the streets person.
Anonymous is everyone and no one, everywhere and no where. Who Nato going to infiltrate 4chan? LOL what a riot.
So the government arrest and prosecutes one of Anonymous, 10 more random people will take his place. Anonymous is not like Al-Qaeda where they are Individuals with names. Considering for the longest time on any site Anonymous was the default name for someone to post under, as in this is an anonymous person, a random off the streets person.
That's assuming that NATO can't do the same when they find out who the hackers are. I think the hackers need to calm the heck down and let everyone go back to their lives without wondering if the next big hack is right around the corner. If the government or agency thereof wants to wade in on this so that I can get back to my gaming, go for it.HankMan said:
The implication that most of anonymous actually gives a shit about anything that has gone on recently is absolutely laughable.
Even more laughable is the fact that people think Anonymous is some sort of social activist group.
Protip: You'll find most of Anon doesn't give a good god damn and would much rather go about their day doing whatever, it's just a select handful of jackasses that use "Anonymous" as a front for wannabe activist bullshit.
By and large, anonymous is full of morons with a couple of pissed off, "leet" script kiddies thrown into the mix.
Anon isn't a group, there's no hierarchy, there's no structure, there's nothing. It's a faceless blob. You can't persecute a faceless entity with no organisation because there's nothing to go after.
So the script kiddies might get taken down, then what? Anonymous still exists, but there's this perception of threat from a disorganised entity that honestly could not care less if they tried and that's just moronic to believe.
Seriously, is there anyone (higher ups, that is) out there that doesn't believe Anon is some sort of social activism group? It's kinda sad.
Even more laughable is the fact that people think Anonymous is some sort of social activist group.
Protip: You'll find most of Anon doesn't give a good god damn and would much rather go about their day doing whatever, it's just a select handful of jackasses that use "Anonymous" as a front for wannabe activist bullshit.
By and large, anonymous is full of morons with a couple of pissed off, "leet" script kiddies thrown into the mix.
Anon isn't a group, there's no hierarchy, there's no structure, there's nothing. It's a faceless blob. You can't persecute a faceless entity with no organisation because there's nothing to go after.
So the script kiddies might get taken down, then what? Anonymous still exists, but there's this perception of threat from a disorganised entity that honestly could not care less if they tried and that's just moronic to believe.
Seriously, is there anyone (higher ups, that is) out there that doesn't believe Anon is some sort of social activism group? It's kinda sad.
First off Nazi war criminals have identities, names, a paper trail. Although nothing truly invisible on the internet, you aren't going to just infiltrate anonymous. Undercover Military tech experts will stick out like a sore thumb unless they take the time to really become them. Nato better of sending a young college age or out of college person than a 30 year veteran in this situation. You think Nato is that smart? Laughs. They are treating Anonymous like a conventional terrorist or a cold war era spy and that isn't going to work.voorhees123 said:
Issue is anonymous isn't just a few idiots on keyboards. Anyone can claim to be anonymous, to easy to use anonymous as a scape goat. Yes you can follow the trail to a few individuals, that isn't going to stop Anonymous. And yes Anonymous even on the net can be Anonymous. Just head to any Library or free Wifi hot spot. Do you business and leave. Who the government going to question, Starbuck Employees?
Problem with anonymous is it could be any one, I could be anonymous, you can, one of your friends or family,you never know.
You arrest 1 Anonymous 10 more will appear, like like heads on a hydra.
they aren't just looking to arrest those who are responsible but trying to tear down the whole anonymous "organization". The Military still hung up on Cold War era tactics, it is not going to work when there no organization.bdcjacko said: