Care to elaborate? it's just I've been studying NATO for a while now, they have been doing a lot of work in Afghanistan and Iraq recently.HerbertTheHamster said:
NATO Considers "Persecuting" Anonymous
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As much as I don't like this clip-clop guy for his fervent, almost fanatical defense of the government, I semi agree with him.Clipclop said:
First, they were pranksters, back in the Habbo Hotel days. Then they became pranksters with a bit of moral to them, such as operation titstorm to object to the internet filter in Australia. Finally, they became criminals when they attacked Sony.
ClipClop said they were "online terrorists" so he needs to look up the definition of "terrorist". The definition of "terrorist" is one who causes havoc and damage in an attempt to spread terror. Hacking PSN and stealing account data isn't terrorism, it's identity fraud, which, although a VERY serious crime, is not a terrorist activity in of itself.
The only way to retaliate effectively against Anonymous (and other Hacktivists) is to start taking rights away from the internet system itself, piece by piece.
"Internet bloodletting", basically.
It would be an incredibly long, expensive, ethically questionable, and highly self-destructive campaign even if it were successful.
Hmm. Anything about that last part sound familiar? Nah...probably just me.
"Internet bloodletting", basically.
It would be an incredibly long, expensive, ethically questionable, and highly self-destructive campaign even if it were successful.
Hmm. Anything about that last part sound familiar? Nah...probably just me.
Dude, take a look at the post, I respect your choice, but it just seems a little over the top to me, that's all.Clipclop said:
Second of all, I don't support them, I half agree with you. All I'm saying is, THEY ARE NOT ONLINE TERRORISTS, they are criminals. They are not willfully and with malicious intent (or whatever the hell it is) performing large scale attacks in an attempt to spread terror.
The Jessi Slaughter group were bullies, the PSN guys were (until proven otherwise) after money etc. They're not terrorists.
1) Why? Especially, why now? Anonymous has been keeping their heads down and is busy with infighting since the initial DDoS attack on Sony.
2) Focus rather on actual hackers, like Lulzsec.
3) Persecute is in fact the correct word, as actual prosecution would only be possible for a handful of publicly known members.
2) Focus rather on actual hackers, like Lulzsec.
3) Persecute is in fact the correct word, as actual prosecution would only be possible for a handful of publicly known members.
I dunno, NATO is pretty professional, I think they have a decent chance against Anon.
They'll just carpet bomb suspicious neighborhoods
They'll just carpet bomb suspicious neighborhoods
I love how Anonymous has gone from being practically a joke in-and-of itself, getting sensationalist reports on local Fox News channels, to being a group of hackers widely recognized, considered dangerous, and in some cases feared.
I find it funny how Anonymous is now something people hotly debate the nature of, despite still being mostly comprised of random people (in some cases fractured groups) making up memes and playing dumb pranks.
I wonder what the NATO officials reading /b/ will think of all this My Little Pony madness. (MLP is huge over there, that's just fact. Please don't hate me or derail this into another pony thread.)
Are you trying to take a jab at the United States? Or was that aimed at the United Kingdom?
At any rate, the US and UK may be a part of NATO, and founding members, but NATO works independently from the US/UK Military/Government.
NATO is an alliance. An amalgamation of the beliefs and ideals of several nations working together for mutual benefit. NATO is in no way an empire, or anything like one.
So, while (I think) I understand what you were trying to get at, perhaps you should pick your words more carefully next time.
I find it funny how Anonymous is now something people hotly debate the nature of, despite still being mostly comprised of random people (in some cases fractured groups) making up memes and playing dumb pranks.
I wonder what the NATO officials reading /b/ will think of all this My Little Pony madness. (MLP is huge over there, that's just fact. Please don't hate me or derail this into another pony thread.)
What the hell are you talking about?HankMan said:
Are you trying to take a jab at the United States? Or was that aimed at the United Kingdom?
At any rate, the US and UK may be a part of NATO, and founding members, but NATO works independently from the US/UK Military/Government.
NATO is an alliance. An amalgamation of the beliefs and ideals of several nations working together for mutual benefit. NATO is in no way an empire, or anything like one.
So, while (I think) I understand what you were trying to get at, perhaps you should pick your words more carefully next time.
When their regimes are harming innocent people and it's affecting their relationship with countries like Libya or Syria, they have every right to interfere.icame said:Could be wrong but I think Nato's job is just to defend any of its members when they come under attack, not to go out and take down regimes from foreign countries.buy teh haloz said:Hey, NATO! Remember these two assholes? You know, the ones who have been killing innocent men, women and children every single day in their 30 year regimes and are spilling even more blood to keep themselves from relinquishing power? It's okay! I have pictures of them:
Yeah, stop wasting your incompetently trying to pursue a group that has the ability to severely fuck you over by leaking all your information, and start spending that time to ensure that these two leave their countries and are placed in a fucking prison cell for the rest of their miserable existence!
Because if they just unceremoniously kill/overthrow them everything will immediately start to settle right? Politics being so self-stabilizing and unchanging and all that.buy teh haloz said:When their regimes are harming innocent people and it's affecting their relationship with countries like Libya or Syria, they have every right to interfere.icame said:Could be wrong but I think Nato's job is just to defend any of its members when they come under attack, not to go out and take down regimes from foreign countries.buy teh haloz said:Hey, NATO! Remember these two assholes? You know, the ones who have been killing innocent men, women and children every single day in their 30 year regimes and are spilling even more blood to keep themselves from relinquishing power? It's okay! I have pictures of them:
Yeah, stop wasting your incompetently trying to pursue a group that has the ability to severely fuck you over by leaking all your information, and start spending that time to ensure that these two leave their countries and are placed in a fucking prison cell for the rest of their miserable existence!
I fail to see how NATO could stop Anonymous, short of tracing all IP addresses on 4chan and sending armed teams to arrest and/or blow the fuck out of anyone inside.
Either that, or forcing the entire internet to shut down somehow, which doesn't seem to be very likely.
Either that, or forcing the entire internet to shut down somehow, which doesn't seem to be very likely.
Wait, who lost an empire? Nato is pretty big and constitutes a number of former empires. (America, at least, is still an empire, as it still has some colonies)HankMan said: