Neon Genesis Evangelion

[hazydawn]

Oh, so you understand that writer was under severe depression when writing this show which resulted in such characters that have traits of his personal struggle and conclusions?.

Yes I knew that which does not make it any better imo. That's basically my explanation why it so bad. Because at some point the story just went downhill and gave way to these boring everlasting monologues. I guess they can be exciting for people who never went through a depressive stage in their lives and never thought about all these questions themselves.
And overall the storytelling is just bad and incoherent. Too much is left unexplained, the ending doesn't even make sense and comes out of nowhere and the worst thing, the only thing he wanted to express with that ending is as far as I understood and remember(been some time and I only wanted to forget) "It's okay for you to love yourself just as you are." or some similar bullshit. *throws up*

You also understand that there is no such thing as "objectively good/bad"? Somehow I doubt it.

That is still debatable, is it not? It also depends on how one defines "good" and "bad".
I personally like to think that there is some objective truth, though that might be just like the belief in god >.<
I'll be switching one of my majors to philosophy and ethics, maybe I'll be able to argue about that one day ^^

And just because something isn't original, that doesn't make it worse.

That's a good argument I agree with that. It just appeared to me that somehow people attribute those ideas to NGE, which is wrong because it definitely was not the author of NGE who first had these ideas.

I can never understand this need in people to justify their liking/hating of something. It just seem to me like they're really just trying to convince themselves that they are superior to others...

Well that can have different reasons I guess. Sometimes people may want reassurement why they feel a certain way, sometimes they become emotional and want to vent these emotions by writing it down or they need somebody to share their experiences with and sometimes you may be right.
I guess that need of people to express themselves is pretty irrational
But it may be because nowaydays we identify ourselves more than ever with the things we like.
"This when a person says they like flying or like a particular rock group, they are connecting their self with these and including associated concepts into their identity."
Same goes for disliking something, just that you distance yourself rather than connect.

Btw I'm starting to enjoy our little conversation isn't that all it is about? (^_^)

 

[Evil Smurf]

good to know I wasn't only one screaming this inside my head while watching this anime
"Bang the redhead, dammit" was the line that constantly went through my head

P.S.Although to be fair, "Bang the redhead" is my usual solution to every single problem.

If there was more banging of redheads (and also more redheads for the banging), the world would be a much better place.

<spoiler=I'm partial to this redhead>Faye Reganhttp://uristocrat.com/files/2010/05/married-to-the-mob-summer-2010-collection-feat-faye-regan17.jpg

Anyway this trope exits in all animé. Ash and Misty always annoyed me with this. (also Misty is a redhead )

 

[Silly Hats]

good to know I wasn't only one screaming this inside my head while watching this anime
"Bang the redhead, dammit" was the line that constantly went through my head

P.S.Although to be fair, "Bang the redhead" is my usual solution to every single problem.

If there was more banging of redheads (and also more redheads for the banging), the world would be a much better place.

<spoiler=I'm partial to this redhead>Faye Reganhttp://uristocrat.com/files/2010/05/married-to-the-mob-summer-2010-collection-feat-faye-regan17.jpg

Anyway this trope exits in all animé. Ash and Misty always annoyed me with this. (also Misty is a redhead )

Marie > Faye

<spoiler=Proofs>http://www.topfox.tv/pic/marie_mccray/158339_marie_mccray_scaled.jpg




I've always liked Evangelion, I don't think that it's as deep as what people make it out to be. Still though, I have all of the DVDs and will buy 3.0 when it comes out.

 

[Evil Smurf]

<spoiler=Proofs>http://www.topfox.tv/pic/marie_mccray/158339_marie_mccray_scaled.jpg

I may need to do some research into this.

I may need to start watching this anime

 

[Gordon_4_v1legacy]

good to know I wasn't only one screaming this inside my head while watching this anime
"Bang the redhead, dammit" was the line that constantly went through my head

P.S.Although to be fair, "Bang the redhead" is my usual solution to every single problem.

If there was more banging of redheads (and also more redheads for the banging), the world would be a much better place.

<spoiler=I'm partial to this redhead>Faye Reganhttp://uristocrat.com/files/2010/05/married-to-the-mob-summer-2010-collection-feat-faye-regan17.jpg

Anyway this trope exits in all animé. Ash and Misty always annoyed me with this. (also Misty is a redhead )

Ash and Misty were 12 and 14 respectively, but if they aged, I think there would have been a story there at some point.

I would destroy Faye Regan! That red hair, and those freckles........come to Butt-Head.

 

[Epicspoon]

The best part is this joke makes sense even if you haven't watched Evangelion. You just need to watch any anime ever.

 

[grey_space]

Sticking it in crazy is AWESOME. Those warnings are just for the amateurs.

Speaking as one who has also chained the lightning and loosed the thunder, I tip my cap to you sir.

 

[BaronIveagh]

as much as this is true Tenchi Muyo was far worst

Not so, in canon Tenchi eventually took all of them (Which is why it's called the 'Tenchi Solution'). WE just never get to SEE IT.

 

[Madara XIII]

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I love you in the most homo-erotic fashion ever for making this.
And that play on words title.

 

[Garrett]

Yes I knew that which does not make it any better imo. That's basically my explanation why it so bad. Because at some point the story just went downhill and gave way to these boring everlasting monologues. I guess they can be exciting for people who never went through a depressive stage in their lives and never thought about all these questions themselves.
And overall the storytelling is just bad and incoherent. Too much is left unexplained, the ending doesn't even make sense and comes out of nowhere and the worst thing, the only thing he wanted to express with that ending is as far as I understood and remember(been some time and I only wanted to forget) "It's okay for you to love yourself just as you are." or some similar bullshit. *throws up*

See, this is why there is no such thing as objectively good/bad. Because I don't think those monologues are boring, I don't think storytelling is bad and incoherent, everything made sense to me and while I too don't remember it perfectly I don't think there were imoprtant things left unexplained. They weren't given to you on a plate but you could explain them yourself.

I guess they can be exciting for people who never went through a depressive stage in their lives and never thought about all these questions themselves.

Shouldn't this be the other way around? People who didn't have experience with this will most likely be bored out of their mind unless they are open minded and/or interested in psychology. People with experiences are more likely to be interested in this since they can gain new outlook on certain things or see that they are not alone or whatever.

Well that can have different reasons I guess. Sometimes people may want reassurement why they feel a certain way, sometimes they become emotional and want to vent these emotions by writing it down or they need somebody to share their experiences with and sometimes you may be right.
I guess that need of people to express themselves is pretty irrational
But it may be because nowaydays we identify ourselves more than ever with the things we like.
"This when a person says they like flying or like a particular rock group, they are connecting their self with these and including associated concepts into their identity."
Same goes for disliking something, just that you distance yourself rather than connect.

I don't really know. I'm more and more swinging towards the belief that there are two groups off people when dealing with things we like/dislike. There are people who you don't have to explain why you like/dislike something and there are people who won't understand anyway. Ofcourse it's too absolute for my taste so I might change it to my liking but it's sums it up pretty well.

Btw I'm starting to enjoy our little conversation isn't that all it is about? (^_^)

Glad to provide you enjoment.

Btw. from the looks of it, you didn't watch End of Evangelion movie. That's probably one of the reasons why ending "came out of nowhere". It shouldn't be this way but NGE is short for NGE+EoE. Last two episodes of NGE is what is going through Shinji's head during EoE. It's a dick move to do this but they also run out of money at the end of the series so they couldn't close it up the way they liked in just the series. All in all I think running out of money did actually more good since trying to put EoE in two ~20 minutes episodes wouldn't do it justice. Actually, lot's of people don't count last two episodes of NGE as a part of NGE. Personally I liked them but whatever. So yeah, NGE=NGE+EoE.

Oh and for the record, I love NGE but I don't like Rebuild movies.

 

[xdiesp]

The hedgehog's dilemma.

 

[Daveman]

Reminds me of so much of my telly watching which consists of me shouting "OH JUST FUCK ALREADY!"

 

[Infernai]

The best part is this joke makes sense even if you haven't watched Evangelion. You just need to watch any anime ever.

...I'm going to hazard a guess Berserk was the exception to the rule?

Then again, given Berserk managed to also turn the whole "Friendship!" theme of some Shoenen anime's on it's head, i guess that makes two things in anime Berserk has done that some anime's didn't:

1. The main character has fallen in love and fucked someone (Granted, shit went to hell after but..still remains).

2. The "Power of Friendship" was what caused the terrible situation rather then what solved it.

 

[taltamir]

as much as this is true Tenchi Muyo was far worst

Techni Muyo is a novel which had a straight to DVD adaptation (the OAV series). It was NOT like that at all. In fact the romantic tangle is resolved by ep 4.

However it was popular so the corp owning the rights to it hired several different teams to rehash the characters in alternative shows: Tenchi Universe, Tenchi in Tokyo, Magical Girl Pretty Sammy; as well as several movies. All of which were stupid and uninspired and didn't go anywhere (on purpose to maintain the status quo).

PS. Last I counted Spiderman has been rebooted 41 times. That was a few years ago so there should have been a few more reboots since.

 

[hazydawn]

Btw. from the looks of it, you didn't watch End of Evangelion movie. That's probably one of the reasons why ending "came out of nowhere". It shouldn't be this way but NGE is short for NGE+EoE. Last two episodes of NGE is what is going through Shinji's head during EoE. It's a dick move to do this but they also run out of money at the end of the series so they couldn't close it up the way they liked in just the series. All in all I think running out of money did actually more good since trying to put EoE in two ~20 minutes episodes wouldn't do it justice. Actually, lot's of people don't count last two episodes of NGE as a part of NGE. Personally I liked them but whatever. So yeah, NGE=NGE+EoE.

Oh and for the record, I love NGE but I don't like Rebuild movies.

No I didn't because I was not particularly enjoying myself during the beginning either. I didn't think it was bad at that point but watching it was more like a chore to me. I just kept watching because I read that everybody thinks it's genius so I continued watching expecting it to become better or more interesting. At the point with that shadow Angel and the Eva going berserk I actually thought that things would become more interesting >.<

EDIT: You know what would have saved this anime for me? If he had fucked the white haired guy at the end... or reverse xD

I don't think those monologues are boring, I don't think storytelling is bad and incoherent, everything made sense to me and while I too don't remember it perfectly I don't think there were imoprtant things left unexplained.

So would you say that it is brilliant or could we at least agree that it is overrated as one of the best anime ever? ^^

 

[I.Muir]

Worst protagonists ever
It would not surprise me if he was made to be pathetic
That and he needs to access his inner warrior and not wimp out all the time when fighting too

 

[Blachman201_v1legacy]

Shinji never really had a chance. Any relationship with mom-clone, or the human vessel for the soul of the god-like creature that wants to end mankind would be pretty much doomed from the start. Which leaves him with the angry girl with a massive inferiority-superiority complex, who he is far too socially inept to understand.

Any ways; Shinji getting laid would be like Batman accepting the death of his parents, or Kratos deciding to let go of his anger. It would effectively mean the end of the character.

 

[Garrett]

So would you say that it is brilliant or could we at least agree that it is overrated as one of the best anime ever? ^^

It's actually my favourite anime so f*ck you Whether it's brilliant or not I don't care. I love it and that's all that matters.

Captcha: love is blind
F*ck you too captcha...

 

[Your Gaffer]

The text of the third to last panel should have read "Fuck anybody, you feckless fucking fuck". Still have the alliteration and it gets to your point very well.