New Australian PM Sticks With Internet Filter Plans

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Lizardon said:
Well here's some survey results collected at the start of the year

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/internet-filter-survey-results

Apparently the majority want this filter.
If you don't want your kids to see bewbs why not use parental controls?
 

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Lizardon said:
Well here's some survey results collected at the start of the year

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/internet-filter-survey-results

Apparently the majority want this filter.
Read the question again - they phrased it so that virtually no-one would say no to it - infact, it makes NO mention of a filter.
 

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If you don't agree with this filter you are clearly a pedophile.

LOL on that survey:
"Have you ever viewed legal but sexually explicit material on the internet?"
20% on purpose
26% accidently
60% never
Some people refused to answer this question
Aside from the fact that there's clearly liars, those numbers don't even add up.
 
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Patrick_and_the_ricks said:
If you don't want your kids to see bewbs why not use parental controls?
Because parents no longer want the responsibilty of their children.

Local Paper Story said:
A mother from Loughborough, who has a young son who is a keen gamer, said: "A lot of computer games are just like films these days but I don't think all parents think about them that way and they buy them for their kids whatever it says on the front.

"If a shop sold my son an 18-rated game I would be livid and I'd say they should be prosecuted."
See...it's not THEIR fault, it's those DIRTY PEDDLERS!
 

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colonel_alzheimers said:
So basically, if you mention that child pornography might be involved, you can do whatever the fuck you want.
Yes.

Good ol' Australia, always good for a laugh.
 

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How can you censor the internet
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This is totally unfeasible. Haven't they ever heard of a proxy?
Its what students use in schools to get on Youtube and Facebook etc.
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
I posted this before but

As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.

* Commissioner Pravin Lal, "U.N. Declaration of Rights"
I think it works here as well.
That's an excellent quote. Thanks for providing it.

On topic: Gillard is a total disappointment. With this, and her declaration that she thinks that I shouldn't be able to get married to some hunky guy that I hopefully meet really soon, her honeymoon period in my mind lasted about 2 seconds. I definitely won't be voting Labor next election.
 

Jared

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Its impossible to censor something as vast as the internet...all its going to succeed in doing is making alot of people angry, making yourself look stupid, and like a dictatorship...Silly...
 

Kojiro ftt

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Doug said:
Lizardon said:
Well here's some survey results collected at the start of the year

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/internet-filter-survey-results

Apparently the majority want this filter.
Read the question again - they phrased it so that virtually no-one would say no to it - infact, it makes NO mention of a filter.
If you had watched the slides, you would see that actually several questions explicitly mention a government run filter. And they had very positive results.

I am sad for Australia right now.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
"why should you treat the internet differently from any form of communications like films and books and so on," she said.
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What.

Last time I checked, films and books weren't forms of communication. Forms of communication include, although not exclusively, speech, letter-writing, telephone calls and drums.

Books and films are media. The Internet contains media, but in itself isn't any more a form of media than telephone calls are when you're playing music into your phone.
 

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Ironic Pirate said:
Instead of fighting the internent, can't they crack down on pedophiles? The dangerous ones, though.
Why do that when they could piss off even more people?
James Hueick said:
Woodsey said:
Australia; land of the easy-going.
I thought that was Canada.
Canada is the land of the apologetic, haven't you been watching Loading Ready Run recently?
 

tomtom94

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Internet filters = bad thing.
Internet monitoring = bad thing.
Storing of internet history for us as supplementary evidence = good thing.
 

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I'm a programmer and even though i only took a year of server i can tell you this is dam near imposable without some sort of mass blocking filter, and that wouldn't work to well. Most filters are static and used in company's to make sure their employees aren't looking at porn or social networking sites while on the job, the problem though is that they often block legit content and exceptions have to be made to the filter.
For this you would need to create a giant filter that takes all content everywhere takes into account proxy servers, and have entire staffs job just to make sure its a)Working and b) not blocking legit stuff, it is improbable, expensive, and downright Orwellian .
 

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i would think if they know what sites to block then why not monitor the traffic and arrest the people that are using them? or is that too much like logic?

i suspect this is a stepping stone in the name of child porn for these filters to get expanded to file sharing services after all people could post child porn on them, and news services, and maybe when they get enough steam sites like this where we call these people facists and stupid. and how about sites that give informant on drugs and such, and of course violence since we wont allow violent video games in this country. you can find some pretty violent stuff on youtube, why should they not ban that? or how about facebook and myspace, tons of questionable stuff go on those places. how about ever real time chat room ever invented where sexual propositions are the norm and stupidty abounds.

i mean we can just keep going on and on if we really want to defend children.
 

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Andy Chalk said:
Ros Phillips, a spokeswoman for the group FamilyVoice Australia [http://www.fava.org.au/], said she was "delighted" that the new Prime Minister is staying the course. "The underlying principle, you can't dispute - why should you treat the internet differently from any form of communications like films and books and so on," she said.
She has a point. Australia really should relax its censorship of films and books and so on.

Oh, wait, that's not what she meant?
 

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In the UK, ISPs go out of there way to block potential ill-content, which goes beyond sexually explicit material that also includes sites linked to fraud and terrorism.

Now granted the UK is pretty poor when it comes to being a "free" nation and with civil liberties, yet this Australian law seems like censor that AND THEN SOME, IE clean websites.
 

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Geez.

I feel sorry of you Australians. your goverment seems to claim it's democratic, yet it's acting like a totalitarian goverment, it could at least have the honesty of being one, like The People's Republic Of China does.

I say you Australians oughta rise in rebellion, I don't know how you'd do rebellions, but in my country, the U.S.A, we've done so 2 ways:

1) Pull off a military rebellion against oppression, ala the American Revolution.

2) Engage in peaceful civil disobedience, protests, lawsuits, etc. ala the Civil Rights Movement.