New Australian PM Sticks With Internet Filter Plans

[Adzma]

And this is why I vote for the Greens.

They do not attempt this sort of crap. Also, this way, when one of the major parties goes and does something stupid, I don't have to feel responsible.

Although Labor did get my preferences... damn it.

The Greens or the Sex Party. Both are good. However lets not forget what the Democrats did regarding the GST... Politicians in any form are not to be trusted.

And to my fellow Victorians, remember it's up to us to vote Conroy out of the senate. Vote below the line!

 

[Biosophilogical]

Well here's some survey results collected at the start of the year

http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/internet-filter-survey-results

Apparently the majority want this filter.

Read the question again - they phrased it so that virtually no-one would say no to it - infact, it makes NO mention of a filter.

If you had watched the slides, you would see that actually several questions explicitly mention a government run filter. And they had very positive results.

I am sad for Australia right now.

Well actually while they mentioned a filter, the first question (the filter question) was saying that it would bolck websites that were refused classification. And if that is all it did, then there wouldn't be much problem (except on the areas wheere the government is too strict).

The other supported question was that the list of black-listed sites should be made public, which even I would support (I'd rather not have the filter, but if it's there then I want to know what I'm being blocked from) as it means that you can petition the government to uncensor websites (like if they blocked the escapist for being pro-freedom).

So I think those questions were designed to receive a supportive response, when, if given the whole picture, the results would have been different.

 

[Andronicus]

Canada is the land of the apologetic, haven't you been watching Loading Ready Run recently?

I'm from Canada; its easy going and apologetic.

So...
Who do I have to have sex with to get a permanent visa?

 

[Trizshjen]

wiki-leaks has a full list of the websites to be banned which has not been officially released in Australia. a quick look through the list includes a number of Wikipedia articles, youtube accounts and a number of the chans

 

[The_Healer]

So are they going to try to ban 4chan?
I'd like to see what they have to say about that...

 

[Trizshjen]

12chan was the main one i could see

 

[Silva]

Honestly, it's a bit over the top to call this Orwellian, but resisting it powerfully is something that I can get behind.

Seriously? people were saying OMG she isnt like Rudd.....

This is why i vote liberal, they WANTED something like this, but they deemed it too stupid/idiotic/undemocratic to do....

Hahahaha, the Liberal Party still want to do it, and they will in government. You watch. If they win, they will do it.

The only significant Australian party that has never wanted to make a filter is the Greens. They have my support for that, too.

 

[captain underpants]

It's not so bad. It's been shelved until after the election, and all indications point to a huge loss for Labor, largely over this filter. My only qualm is that the opposition leader is even more of a religious fucktard, and hasn't beed particularly vocal about it one way or the other. My only hope rests in the hackers wiping it out as quickly as they create it.

The whole thing rest on the false premise that people 'inadvertantly see child pronography'. Even someone like me that enjoys legal forms of porn find it near impossible to inadvertantly see that, I know I never have.

Another point is that if there's content that's already illegal being distributed and watched, how is another law going to deter them? THEY ALREADY SCOFF AT THE LAWS.

Also, anyone that does object to such content has widely available tools to filter content at their own desktop, without interfering with anyone else's freedom.

The most insidious thing about it imo is that they'll keep the banned list secret. That takes it from something that's merely irritating to something far more sinister and questionable.

The whole thing is a solution looking for a problem.

 

[Miumaru]

Yeah, why treat it different than movies and books...and why treat those who restrict them different? Ya know..like hateful Christians, and the Nazis.

 

[ButanicXpandA]

So Australia is going to be a safe haven for empty headed religious extremists and old people who think every generation after their own is the work of satan? I forsee Australia having a civil war or a mass evacuation in the near future.

I couldn't agree more friend

 

[reciprocal]

It's not so bad. It's been shelved until after the election, and all indications point to a huge loss for Labor, largely over this filter. My only qualm is that the opposition leader is even more of a religious fucktard, and hasn't beed particularly vocal about it one way or the other. My only hope rests in the hackers wiping it out as quickly as they create it.

The whole thing rest on the false premise that people 'inadvertantly see child pronography'. Even someone like me that enjoys legal forms of porn find it near impossible to inadvertantly see that, I know I never have.

Another point is that if there's content that's already illegal being distributed and watched, how is another law going to deter them? THEY ALREADY SCOFF AT THE LAWS.

Also, anyone that does object to such content has widely available tools to filter content at their own desktop, without interfering with anyone else's freedom.

The most insidious thing about it imo is that they'll keep the banned list secret. That takes it from something that's merely irritating to something far more sinister and questionable.

The whole thing is a solution looking for a problem.

I for one am very relieved that they were forced to shelve it until after the election. Everything you've said is true, and I agree that we shouldn't rest until this is dead and buried but still... I am very relieved.

After reading the PM's statement yesterday I was really despondent about how the politicians were completely out of touch with the general public and how they kept ignoring expert advice. It made me feel really helpless because it seemed like there was absolutely nothing that Australians or the world could do to change their minds. Secularism and democracy had utterly failed.

And then this morning the news showed that somehow the people managed to scare them off... even if it's just a little. It's a very small victory but it has restored some of my faith in the world.

 

[Mr Thin]

But... this is a wonderful country! It's rich and happy and friendly!

Australians like freedom!

...[small]don't we?[/small]

*Looks on internet*

"The list of prohibited sites will be secret, so it will be impossible to know what content the Government has effectively banned."

"Filtering will be required in all homes, even where there are no children."

Right, **** this, I'm moving to America.

 

[fgdfgdgd]

So Australia is going to be a safe haven for empty headed religious extremists and old people who think every generation after their own is the work of satan?

It'll be just like the US mid west. Only with more poisonous creatures.

more Repulbicans here ? oh shi-

 

[The_Emperor]

Australian goverment,

Still convinced their citizens are all criminals.

you win sir!

over 9000 internets!


ot: this is farsical.
im lost for words. politicians are idiots.

only genius minds should be able to lead, to lead a country from now on you should have some sort of degree or doctorate and you should have to be proven in the fields of philosophy and economics.

lets start a scientific republic

 

[James Hueick]

Canada is the land of the apologetic, haven't you been watching Loading Ready Run recently?

I'm from Canada; its easy going and apologetic.

So...
Who do I have to have sex with to get a permanent visa?

Steven Harper lol.

 

[GrinningManiac]

I support this!

It's HILARIOUS to watch governments go absaloutely wrong on something and go for crap and nuthin'

...plus, there are like, what, seven people living in Australia? It won't affect ANYONE!!!

I'm one of the seven people living in Australia, and I don't like you.

Also, you don't make a lot of sense. Proof read your comments before you post, so I can understand them and reply with a more appropriate rebuttal.

I don't know why you're acting so anal about that offhand remark

It made perfect sense, too. I like watching governments make stupid decisions, and then watching them screw themselves over and fail miserably.

Your comment seemed trollish, in that you were just being a bit curt and just critisising my grammar/syntax

 

[MakeLoveNotWar]

Okay then, looks like I'm moving then. Australia fucks with my life enough already, now they want to turn us into a Chinese internet? (No offence, but really China your too safe with your internet..) Wonder where's good for moving right now?

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

My first thought was "What does this have to do with Jodie Foster?"

My second thought was "Jodie Foster's... Australian for... beer?"

I gave up after that.

 

[Zing]

This is why you vote below the line. This fool of a Prime Minister promised a "consultative approach" to leading, and after Assassinating the previous PM(who is even more of a fool), she backs Conroy's idiotic filter that is vehemently abhorred by the mainstream public as well as the IT community. Hopefully we get some Democrats in to block this idiocy.