New Elder Scrolls Online Screens Emerge

[Matthew Ostman]

I know I shouldn't let myself get excited about this game... but damn if shot #6 isn't giving me some serious morrowind nostalgia...

 

[Playful Pony]

Hmm, well I do know that although I've been a big fan of TES series for a very long time, this game is not for me. I'm not an MMORPG fan though, I've never gotten very far in WoW, and the same goes for games such TERA, TOR and Perfect World... Although I very much enjoy the lore of TES, that's not what draws me into the series. It's the entertaining gameplay, good presentation, interesting quests and compelling storylines. Just being a TES game isn't enough to draw me in!

Not what I'd want, clearly not ment for me or similar people. What I'd want is a TES with a small multi-player component, something like Boderlands drop-in coop feature. Just scale the dificulty a bit and/or add some more enemies to Skyrim and we'd have the time of our life... If they really do intend to kill WoW with this one, by having the same questing and combat system... You idiots X3.

Just me or does the art style looks way too...soft? Maybe not the best word for it but this looks like a Fable game not Skyrim.

I'm getting the same feeling, though I too cannot really put words on whats wrong with the look of this game... It doesn't look right, is all I can say for sure X3.

 

[joeman098]

This makes me so sad I hope they stop making this or overhaul the whole project. No one wants elder scrolls WoW. Now an elder scrolls online with the normal twitch elder scrolls combat thats something i want. Not press some buttons tab target some stuff collect loot =(

 

[snave]

What I fear is that this will ultimately mess up the single player game series. As it stands, basically all of the lore in the franchise can be recapped by blazing through a bunch of single-player games. Specifically, four games, as Arena was mostly retconned apart from the blurb on the back of the box. And heck, that's such a minimal amount in the grand scheme of things, that they've pretty well managed to sum it up in books, in game.

Now look at Warcraft. If they were to launch another non-MMORPG in that universe... well, it would work because their MMORPG playerbase is so utterly, devastatingly huge. Uhm. Anyway, the point is, World of Warcraft is the majority of the Warcraft franchise's lore. So you've alienated any non-WoW players away from any hypothetical future single player installments. Again, in WoW's case, this isn't a dealbreaker, but if we simply assume that the Elder Scrolls Online doesn't fare too well, but fares well enough to maintain itself, then, in that case, it is. I'd even go as far as to say it is potentially disasterous to the main single player series' playerbase.

This is also the same reason why sequels that jump genre boundaries are also a certified Bad Idea.

My personal hope is that they'll can this project and rejig the work thus far into a more open, co-op and online enabled side project. Perhaps ongoing and episodic (kinda like how The Secret World really should have been).

 

[SajuukKhar]

This makes me so sad I hope they stop making this or overhaul the whole project. No one wants elder scrolls WoW. Now an elder scrolls online with the normal twitch elder scrolls combat thats something i want. Not press some buttons tab target some stuff collect loot =(

There is no tab targeting in TESO.

In fact the game's control scheme is exactly like skyrim's with the exception being you cant swing your sword unless your aiming reticule is over a valid target.

 

[Schizocorpse]

I'm really looking forward to this game, haters can suck it, see you at launch.

captcha 'always there'

At least captcha is supportive.

 

[Eridani74]

What I fear is that this will ultimately mess up the single player game series. As it stands, basically all of the lore in the franchise can be recapped by blazing through a bunch of single-player games. Specifically, four games, as Arena was mostly retconned apart from the blurb on the back of the box. And heck, that's such a minimal amount in the grand scheme of things, that they've pretty well managed to sum it up in books, in game.

[snip]

This is also the same reason why sequels that jump genre boundaries are also a certified Bad Idea.

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It's not a sequel, it's a prequel which implies that it won't add any major details to lore only fleshing out tangential details as nothing has been mentioned about the events of TESO in the single player games other than "stuff happened here".

Not to mention that Bethesda Game Studios has taken care to make all entries in the series stand-alone lore-wise. It isn't necessary to play the old games to enjoy one of the new ones and that will apply to the MMO and the following single player games as well.

 

[Odjin]

What I fear is that this will ultimately mess up the single player game series. As it stands, basically all of the lore in the franchise can be recapped by blazing through a bunch of single-player games. Specifically, four games, as Arena was mostly retconned apart from the blurb on the back of the box. And heck, that's such a minimal amount in the grand scheme of things, that they've pretty well managed to sum it up in books, in game.

[snip]

This is also the same reason why sequels that jump genre boundaries are also a certified Bad Idea.

[snip]

It's not a sequel, it's a prequel which implies that it won't add any major details to lore only fleshing out tangential details as nothing has been mentioned about the events of TESO in the single player games other than "stuff happened here".

Not to mention that Bethesda Game Studios has taken care to make all entries in the series stand-alone lore-wise. It isn't necessary to play the old games to enjoy one of the new ones and that will apply to the MMO and the following single player games as well.

Not correct. TES-Lore matched up until Oblivion... then it got RetCon-Fucked up in the worst possible way. Up to then the main stories had been (albeit often crappy) standalone but in a consistent with TES-Lore. Then they all fucked it up. The only positive point on this MMO is that if it is prior to TES games they can't include the RetCon Fuck-up they did on Skyrim as this would horribly break the existing (and established) TES-Lore.

 

[Zenn3k]

So much hate.

I'm generally interested in this game, I haven't played a good fantasy MMO since I quit WoW when Vanilla ended (first expansion). I'm an old Everquest veteran, and this game kinda reminds me of EQ in a good way.

I'll likely buy it and at least try it. The P2P doesn't put me off, as EVERY MMO I've ever tried has been P2P. TES is fairly recognizable for me, so I have a grasp on the history and the plot.

Also, I'm betting the end game involves killing gods, and thats always a fun idea

 

[IamLEAM1983]

I'm still confused as to why they thought this is a good idea, and I really don't think they understand the MMO space like they think they do.

I'm utterly underwhelmed by these screen shorts, yeah they look pretty, but it just looks...dead to me. There's nothing in them that show how lively the game will be or even the 'character' of the game.

It's a profit deal attempt. ZeniMax's shareholders aren't all gamers, and they're probably going "You know this... World of Craft of... War, thing the kids play? That makes money, right? So let's make that with our own IP!"

As with The Old Republic, I'm fairly sure it'll fold within the first year and default to freemium. That's despite the sheer fanbase of the Elder Scrolls series. People tend to like and love Tamriel and its constituents because it's a place that can be explored at one's own pace. A single-player MMO with a single fee attached to it. I'm not sure they'll make the jump to an MMO all that easily.

Plus, underlining the fact that this is just an attempt is the fact that this is made from a different team altogether. Elder Scrolls Online doesn't seem like it will bother the production status of whatever comes next - either Fallout 4 or Elder Scrolls VI.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

I'm still confused as to why they thought this is a good idea, and I really don't think they understand the MMO space like they think they do.

I'm utterly underwhelmed by these screen shorts, yeah they look pretty, but it just looks...dead to me. There's nothing in them that show how lively the game will be or even the 'character' of the game.

It's a profit deal attempt. ZeniMax's shareholders aren't all gamers, and they're probably going "You know this... World of Craft of... War, thing the kids play? That makes money, right? So let's make that with our own IP!"

As with The Old Republic, I'm fairly sure it'll fold within the first year and default to freemium. That's despite the sheer fanbase of the Elder Scrolls series. People tend to like and love Tamriel and its constituents because it's a place that can be explored at one's own pace. A single-player MMO with a single fee attached to it. I'm not sure they'll make the jump to an MMO all that easily.

Plus, underlining the fact that this is just an attempt is the fact that this is made from a different team altogether. Elder Scrolls Online doesn't seem like it will bother the production status of whatever comes next - either Fallout 4 or Elder Scrolls VI.

I don't expect it to last longer than that either, and the cynical side of me totally thinks it's a cash grab.

If I remember right, I think they said they were gonna make it because the fans have been wanting an Elder Scrolls MMO for a while, so they're doing them a solid with this game. I'm not sure that's a good idea since it's a single player game and I have no idea how they're gonna translate that in a MMO genre.

I would imagine that a different team would be working on this, and I would assume that someone from the production team that has worked on TES would look in just to see if they're close to what the single player game is supposed to be.

 

[Do4600]

I'm not sure I can say anything about this until I see the UI. Screen shots are nice but it's the mode of gameplay that will make or break this game for me, not the art style. A UI provides vital clues into that mystery.

 

[Piorn]

So I heard it's going to have a skill bar and basic mechanics like classic MMOs?
Because that doesn't sound like an Elder Scrolls game to me.

Just saying, mechanics don't make an MMO, Multiplayer does. Just Look at Dark Souls.

 

[Jezzascmezza]

Can't say I'm a big man of the slightly cartoonish style, but I do like the variety in the landscapes presented. It'd be cool if this was set across the entirety of Tamriel.

 

[Kinguendo]

To be fair, The Elder Scrolls does bounce around the centuries quite a bit already. Skyrim is centuries after the events of Oblivion and there is barely any mention of your actions in Oblivion in Skyrim, the only one I can remember is when you summon Lucien LeChances ghost and he mentions "someone" he knew when he still lived.

 

[I.Muir]

What a waste of millions of dollars that could be spent making good video games

Too bad they the greedy bastards want a game with a continuous payment system and cash shops

 

[Li Mu]

To be fair, The Elder Scrolls does bounce around the centuries quite a bit already. Skyrim is centuries after the events of Oblivion and there is barely any mention of your actions in Oblivion in Skyrim, the only one I can remember is when you summon Lucien LeChances ghost and he mentions "someone" he knew when he still lived.

True, but would it really make sense for characters to keep refering to something which happened before most of them were born? I don't wander around saying to friends, "Hey, remember when Cyrus, ruler of Persia in 550BCE, was killed fighting the Massagetae tribe beyond the river Oxus?" Nobody gives a shit about that.
I guess in the same way that the Skyrim characters wouldn't give a shit about some crap which happened 200 years before they were born.


It is, however, mentioned in quite a few ingame books.

 

[Kinguendo]

To be fair, The Elder Scrolls does bounce around the centuries quite a bit already. Skyrim is centuries after the events of Oblivion and there is barely any mention of your actions in Oblivion in Skyrim, the only one I can remember is when you summon Lucien LeChances ghost and he mentions "someone" he knew when he still lived.

True, but would it really make sense for characters to keep refering to something which happened before most of them were born? I don't wander around saying to friends, "Hey, remember when Cyrus, ruler of Persia in 550BCE, was killed fighting the Massagetae tribe beyond the river Oxus?" Nobody gives a shit about that.
I guess in the same way that the Skyrim characters wouldn't give a shit about some crap which happened 200 years before they were born.


It is, however, mentioned in quite a few ingame books.

I wouldnt expect all of them to talk about it... but scholars? Quest givers? Given the dragon situation and the events at the end of Oblivion it seems somewhat apt to mention it.

Also, Tamriel is incredibly isolated. There are many other continents with intelligent life on them and Tamriel does NOT engage with them at all, their entire world news is about their own continent and the Oblivion event was the most significant event to happen to them in a looooong time and is the reason for the tensions that caused the Civil War in Skyrim... it is not some random trivia, its relevent yet it doesnt get a mention. Ignorance of information is alive and well in the people of Skyrim... there is no reason to suspect that the people would be more enlightened if you went even further back in their history.

 

[LordNerevar]

yes EVE is like if a Space Sim and MMO had a kid

Also yeah I would kill for a fantasy MMO that brought something new to the table and wasn't WoW or GW. From what I have seen GW2 does mix things up a bit, but it will be a while before we some true innovation in the genre.

 

[LordNerevar]

There is too much Daystar in this thread. MY HEAD IS SPINNING

OT: Hmm seems like they're going for that gritty but cartoonish look? I'll probably try it out once it's out as I've been looking for a new MMO that's not GW2 or WoW

ever tried EVE?

Let me correct myself haha. I want that style with the swords and magic. So like WoW and GW2 but.. not GW2 and WoW if that makes sense?

EVE is spaceships and what not amirite?

yes EVE is like if a Space Sim and MMO had a kid It differentiates itself from other MMO's through use of unique game mechanics as well as the most player freedom in the genre and perhaps in all of gaming itself.

Also yeah I would kill for a fantasy MMO that brought something new to the table and wasn't WoW or GW. From what I have seen GW2 does mix things up a bit, but it will be a while before we see some true innovation in the genre.

EDIT: I accidentally posted the above post without quoting and i don't know how to remove it. lol