New Nintendo Console "Confirmed" for E3

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Sweet. It'll be nice to have a new, proper console, and hopefully Nintendo goes in the other direction this time, with cutting edge graphics and non-gimmicky controls.
 

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Xzi said:
danpascooch said:
Xzi said:
danpascooch said:
Who wants to bet this new console is to the Wii as the Xbox slim was to the Xbox

I doubt it's really the next big generation, probably just an upgrade.

That said, I don't really care anyway, Nintendo is going to have to do something BIG to get my trust back after the Wii, it's like I've been saying for years, they fucked over their stable fanbase for a quick cash in, and now it's starting to hurt them long run.
An upgrade that's more powerful than the 360/PS3? Don't think your analogy really fits.

OT: Glad to hear it. Seeing Nintendo beat them out hardware-wise might convince Sony and Microsoft to get up off their fat asses and stop holding back the industry. By this point Nintendo could easily develop a console which has twice the power of the 360/PS3 and only cost $100 to $150 than they do currently.
Oh right, as for that part, I think it's just plain wrong. There are no hard facts about this console after all.

Think about it, Gamecube vs. Xbox and PS3. N64 vs PS1

When has Nintendo ever had a console more powerful than the other front runners on the market?
When the "front runners" are purposefully trying to extend a console generation well beyond the point where its technology is obsolete, it's pretty easy to jump on the opportunity. There's really no point in making a new console if they're going to limit it to ten year old hardware. Anyone can build a computer for $500 that far outclasses the PS3/360 these days. Why you would think that a multi-national corporation can't do the same is beyond me.
I'm just saying I'll believe it when I see it, hell, the folks at Engadget are calling it the "HD Wii" so my prediction isn't exactly universally refuted.

There is basically no information about this yet, Escapist quoted IGN who credited the information to (I shit you not) "Our sources" So there's no confirmable facts about anything.

My gut tells me this isn't a gimmick-free powerful console, it just doesn't seem like Nintendo's style, they're all about the gimmicks lately.
 

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radioactive lemur said:
So what? Nintendo hasn't been good since the 64 and I don't see that changing unless the new console a) has at least the option of normal controls and is not based entirely on a gimmicky motion sensor, b) has graphics are at LEAST as good as PS3 (that's charitable considering they really should be much better as it's being released in 2011/2012), and c) carry AAA pan-platform releases like COD and Assassin's Creed. If none of that changes, Nintendo will continue to be a tired relic kept on a steady life support drip of a Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon release every year or so.
Did you just not read the article? It said it wasn't going to be a gimmick and that it's trying to get back in the good graces of the Western gamer?
Saying it's not going to be a gimmick doesn't mean shit, they didn't think motion control was a gimmick when they released it either.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
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ryai458 said:
So, will they copy the 360 or Ps3?
No, you're thinking of what Sony does..
You mean like how Sony ripped off the Game.Com for the DS? Or how Sony ripped off the dual thumbstick design for the Gamecube?

Wait...
Nah, I'm thinking of this generation and their attempts to use motion controls after seeing people get hyped about it.

And what is the Game.com and what does it have to do with the DS? I've been trying to find out what you're talking about, but nothing even resembling the DS has come up.
 

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"The Wii is a gimmick. Motion controls will never catch on."

*The Wii sells a billion consoles.*

"There's just a lot of casual gamers and it's cheap. No one wants motion controls!"

*Sony and Microsoft create motion control addons.*

"These are a billion times better than the Wii's motion controls. It's awesome. Motion controls are the next generation!"

*Nintendo announces a new system.*

"It better not have motion controls! Those are a gimmick that never caught on!"

Ah, internet. Never change.
 

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EBHughsThe1st said:
danpascooch said:
Who wants to bet this new console is to the Wii as the Xbox slim was to the Xbox

I doubt it's really the next big generation, probably just an upgrade.

That said, I don't really care anyway, Nintendo is going to have to do something BIG to get my trust back after the Wii, it's like I've been saying for years, they fucked over their stable fanbase for a quick cash in, and now it's starting to hurt them long run.
I don't.
All consoles peak in sales and then slowly decline through the next 5 years. Heck, they're giving the hardcore audience what they want. They even brought back Kid Icarus. They have spent the last couple of years experimenting, even on the Gamecube. Mario Sunshine and Windwaker were both experiments, and the Wii was just a more drastic experiment. Try to appeal to a larger audience.

And why would they wait this long for the Wii Lite or Wii Plus? It only took them a year for the DS lite, and another two for the DSi Family. They don't upgrade their consoles like the other two companies. They just make a new one from the ground up.
They wait this long for a Wii plus because now is when they need it, right when sales start to slouch BAM! Hit them with an upgraded version (in this case, HD) so that the already Wii-saturated market has something new to buy, it actually makes perfect sense, almost everyone who wants a Wii has one now, if they release an upgrade a large portion of them will go buy that too.

Did you really just say "The don't upgrade their consoles" right after talking about the "DS Lite" and "another two for the DSi Family" for fucks sake these are the people who made the DS XL the most useless console upgrade known to man, and don't forget Wii motion plus, Nintendo loves minor upgrades to their shit.
 

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Not really interested at all. Nintendo knows how to make a good hand held, but as for consoles? I'll stick with my 360 thanks.
 

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YES, now the others have to follow suit sooner or later and I won't have to endure 4 more years of games with crappy graphics and small levels xD
Crappy? Everything since the PS2 looks goddamn amazing. I'm actually put off at the prospect of better graphics. Better AI, better online, sure, but better graphics? How much better can we get? There wasn't even a significant jump from last generation until 2007 or so.

As far as small levels goes that's not a restriction of current tech, it's what happens when so many resources are devoted to graphics that they can't make the game more expansive without it becoming exponentially more expensive. We'll get bigger levels when graphics are less expensive, not when systems get more powerful.
 

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I wonder how this is going to shape the market. I mean, even if it's vastly more powerful than the 360 and PS3, the best graphics cards right now don't look THAT much better than the current gen HD consoles. Plus, with Kinect and Move, Sony and Microsoft added at least a couple years to the lives of their consoles. I don't really know what Nintendo is trying to go for, but I really don't see them taking a chunk out of the core market. If on the other hand they're trying to get their casual market interested in traditionally core market games, then I'll be on the edge of my seat.

I also wonder if they'll try their hand at the social gaming market. If they can find a way to make the system run casual social games that can be played at home and then on the go by syncing up with the 3DS, then they really will be taking the first step into the next generation of gaming. If not, then it's just doing the same thing Microsoft and Sony did years ago.
 

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danpascooch said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
danpascooch said:
Who wants to bet this new console is to the Wii as the Xbox slim was to the Xbox

I doubt it's really the next big generation, probably just an upgrade.

That said, I don't really care anyway, Nintendo is going to have to do something BIG to get my trust back after the Wii, it's like I've been saying for years, they fucked over their stable fanbase for a quick cash in, and now it's starting to hurt them long run.
I don't.
All consoles peak in sales and then slowly decline through the next 5 years. Heck, they're giving the hardcore audience what they want. They even brought back Kid Icarus. They have spent the last couple of years experimenting, even on the Gamecube. Mario Sunshine and Windwaker were both experiments, and the Wii was just a more drastic experiment. Try to appeal to a larger audience.

And why would they wait this long for the Wii Lite or Wii Plus? It only took them a year for the DS lite, and another two for the DSi Family. They don't upgrade their consoles like the other two companies. They just make a new one from the ground up.
They wait this long for a Wii plus because now is when they need it, right when sales start to slouch BAM! Hit them with an upgraded version (in this case, HD) so that the already Wii-saturated market has something new to buy, it actually makes perfect sense, almost everyone who wants a Wii has one now, if they release an upgrade a large portion of them will go buy that too.

Did you really just say "The don't upgrade their consoles" right after talking about the "DS Lite" and "another two for the DSi Family" for fucks sake these are the people who made the DS XL the most useless console upgrade known to man, and don't forget Wii motion plus, Nintendo loves minor upgrades to their shit.
I said consoles. Not handhelds. They do fucking love to upgrade handhelds. Gameboy, gamboy color, gameboy advance, gameboy advance XP, Gameboy micro (I think that's the most useless), and I've already addressed the DS. But that's the handheld market.
As for their consoles, they release peripherals, not upgrades. Donkey Konga controller, ruble pak, Wii motion plus. Like the Move and Kinect.
Like that. An upgrade would be like the PS2 and PS3 slim or the XBox 360 slim. Actually, the other two upgrade each generation. Playstation 1,2,3 and Xbox, then 360. Just big, big, big updates.
 

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Braedan said:
Silly, It will be called the Wii-Wii.
It better be called the Wii-Wii! Epic name.

OT: This sounds almost too good to be true. I'll remain skeptical until the time comes. It sure would help tend to the "hardcore" crowd.
 

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OutrageousEmu said:
randommaster said:
OutrageousEmu said:
randommaster said:
ryai458 said:
So, will they copy the 360 or Ps3?
No, you're thinking of what Sony does..
You mean like how Sony ripped off the Game.Com for the DS? Or how Sony ripped off the dual thumbstick design for the Gamecube?

Wait...
Nah, I'm thinking of this generation and their attempts to use motion controls after seeing people get hyped about it.

And what is the Game.com and what does it have to do with the DS? I've been trying to find out what you're talking about, but nothing even resembling the DS has come up.
The first handheld to use a touchscreen interface.
Which took the ideas from PDAs. Not to mention that the DS has two screens and plenty of games that actually use both screens.

The whole thing with the controllers is kinda moot, too, since the PS controller is based on the SNES controller anyways.
 

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humm this should be interesting how all the casual gamers treat this new console, i have a vary good feeling they will look at it and go, why would i want to pay all that money for that, i already have a wii and there are so many games.

Just wondering because that is the crowed that put the wii ahead of everyone else.
 

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EBHughsThe1st said:
danpascooch said:
EBHughsThe1st said:
danpascooch said:
Who wants to bet this new console is to the Wii as the Xbox slim was to the Xbox

I doubt it's really the next big generation, probably just an upgrade.

That said, I don't really care anyway, Nintendo is going to have to do something BIG to get my trust back after the Wii, it's like I've been saying for years, they fucked over their stable fanbase for a quick cash in, and now it's starting to hurt them long run.
I don't.
All consoles peak in sales and then slowly decline through the next 5 years. Heck, they're giving the hardcore audience what they want. They even brought back Kid Icarus. They have spent the last couple of years experimenting, even on the Gamecube. Mario Sunshine and Windwaker were both experiments, and the Wii was just a more drastic experiment. Try to appeal to a larger audience.

And why would they wait this long for the Wii Lite or Wii Plus? It only took them a year for the DS lite, and another two for the DSi Family. They don't upgrade their consoles like the other two companies. They just make a new one from the ground up.
They wait this long for a Wii plus because now is when they need it, right when sales start to slouch BAM! Hit them with an upgraded version (in this case, HD) so that the already Wii-saturated market has something new to buy, it actually makes perfect sense, almost everyone who wants a Wii has one now, if they release an upgrade a large portion of them will go buy that too.

Did you really just say "The don't upgrade their consoles" right after talking about the "DS Lite" and "another two for the DSi Family" for fucks sake these are the people who made the DS XL the most useless console upgrade known to man, and don't forget Wii motion plus, Nintendo loves minor upgrades to their shit.
I said consoles. Not handhelds. They do fucking love to upgrade handhelds. Gameboy, gamboy color, gameboy advance, gameboy advance XP, Gameboy micro (I think that's the most useless), and I've already addressed the DS. But that's the handheld market.
As for their consoles, they release peripherals, not upgrades. Donkey Konga controller, ruble pak, Wii motion plus. Like the Move and Kinect.
Like that. An upgrade would be like the PS2 and PS3 slim or the XBox 360 slim. Actually, the other two upgrade each generation. Playstation 1,2,3 and Xbox, then 360. Just big, big, big updates.
Yeah, the same way my laptop is a nothing more than an upgraded abacus.
 

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No_Remainders said:
Oh yay. Now we can have "Super Mario 12: Revenge of the Chocolate Coated Bullshit".

I'm not getting it unless Nintendo get some new fucking IPs.
Because quality games get less fun every time they're beefed up with new tech, amirite? [/sarcasm]

I am... rather taken aback by this. New console generation (so to speak) starting already eh? Gonna have to start saving up...