New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer: Shall We Begin?

[RoBi3.0]

Wasn't Kirk always the generic bad-boy with good looks, a good heart and as much personality as his chair?

Honestly, I enjoyed the 'new' version of Kirk. Picard is still the best Enterprise Captain. Since this has Sherlock as the bad guy, I am more than happy to watch this.

Yes. I think a certain writer may be being over critical.

The trailer looks goods to me.

 

[fix-the-spade]

I rather hope they don't rehash the whole ship from the future thing again.

Me too.

I'm hoping more for hitherto unknown faction of augments (or deserters, the Maquis) make off with the prototype (whatever) class ship (maybe Excelsior, it looks like an Abramsified Excelsior to me), start wreaking havoc. Specifically goading Kirk/Enterprise because he/they saved the world and are Starfleet's biggest symbol of hope.

I still think it's Khan (or at least a human augment) out for revenge. The guy making tall leaps and carrying the biggest gun in Trek history makes me think augments.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

It looks like a lot of fun. May is gonna be a great month for movies.

The weirdest thing about new Star Trek is that now I think that J.J. Abrams would do a good job with Mass Effect movie.

 

[Parakeettheprawn]

I officially have no idea what to expect from this film. I can't tell if it will be crap or great... but it -will- be shiny.

Well if it crap, it's a great example of a polished turd.

Edit:Grammar

*Nodds* This is true!

 

[chozo_hybrid]

I rather hope they don't rehash the whole ship from the future thing again.

Same here, it'd be disappointing to see that same thing used again.

Snip.

Completely agree, that said, I did like the last flick as a fun action ride, but I did leave the theater disappointed at the lack of all you said.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

so he traveled to the Mirror Universe and borrowed the keys to the Enterprise D

Ok yes I know it doesn't matter but that is now way the Enterprise D it would be the Enterprise E if it came from the alternate universe, or most likely its the excelsior class of which the Enterprise B was one. Please don't take my lunch money.

That is not enterprise B or E that is a very Stylized Galaxy class. Sharp edges and flat surfaces instead of curves. Its not from the Alternate timeline (see real timeline) and looks more like a military galaxy class from this timelines mirror universe.

How is it a galaxy-class if you look at connection to the saucer section there is no thin neck like connection which the enterprise D had, but if you look at the excelsior-class and the Sovereign-class both have this similar connection to the ship in the trailer.

The ship's profile shot matches a Galaxy class, with the super wide saucer and the sort of bulbous deflector dish section. However, it has the Excelsior's swooped back Warp Nacelles, and a neck section that looks taken from an Ambassador class.

 

[RoBi3.0]

Well, it certainly does look like a "future ship" no matter what it may be. Size proportions would be more consistent to a Galaxy Class than to an Excelsior class ship, but that may just be me.

The lens flare is still bugging me a lot (I know, it's an old argument but a valid one) and this is the same movie that we've seen from Star Trek a too much recently. Revenge story with a much more powerful ship.

Some of the best films were about equally armed ships pitted against each other, or the enemy using something crafty to get around the Enterprise's superiority. I'd rather have something like Star Trek 2 where Kirk was blindsided by a friendly looking Miranda Class starship and a strategic back an forth rather thank "look at the monstrosity. let's take it down."

I'm not expecting anything cerebral from these movies until they get rebooted again. The new Trek is for stupid people who can't comprehend plot, philosophy, or science. It's a Die Hard in space, which (while I like Die Hard) breaks my heart for what these movies could have been...

You and me both, brother. The '09 film's attempts at philosophising a la the original Star Trek literally had me facepalming through the whole thing. And I can't remember the last time I saw a time travel plot handled so badly. If Nero is so angry about Romulus being destroyed in the future, why doesn't he use his trip into the past to actually warn the planet and prevent the destruction he's so angry about? And why do black holes act as time travel holes in the first place?

I'm honestly convinced that the Star Wars prequels were a better follow up to Star Wars than the Star Trek reboot to the Star Trek series. For all their many, many flaws, at least the prequels tried to have the same flavour as the original films. The new Star Trek films couldn't be more ashamed of their legacy if they tried, and they've got none of the intelligence, the philosophy or the earnestness of the original Star Trek series. The original Star Trek, for all its soft sci-fi, was groundbreaking in how it challenged accepted morals of the time, and forced audiences to think about ethically challenging problems. It was the show that broke all the rules of the time when it came to non-white characters. These new films are just a way to keep the folks at Industrial Light And Magic in work...

To be fair it has been hypothesized that Black holes could be used to time travel in some manner. That is an actual physics thing. I am not a physicist by any means so I can't defend it beyond that.

Also I don't think Nero had any control over where he ended up in time. In fact if I remember correctly Spock arrived several years ahead of Nero or vise versa. Then there is the fact that if Nero had tried to warn his planet of isn't impending doom that takes place many many many years in the future no one is likely to believe him. Even if he did succeed in warning his planet that shit was going to go down everything he cared about is still gone, or rather so far into the future that it might as well be gone cause Nero isn't going to see it ever again.

Really all Nero had left was vengeance.

 

[Keneth]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the legendary "Start Trek Movie Curse." Historically, so the legend goes, every other ST movie is bad. Nemesis was horrible, J.J.'s Star Trek was ok.

This one is gonna bomb...

 

[Gammayun]

so he traveled to the Mirror Universe and borrowed the keys to the Enterprise D

Ok yes I know it doesn't matter but that is now way the Enterprise D it would be the Enterprise E if it came from the alternate universe, or most likely its the excelsior class of which the Enterprise B was one. Please don't take my lunch money.

That is not enterprise B or E that is a very Stylized Galaxy class. Sharp edges and flat surfaces instead of curves. Its not from the Alternate timeline (see real timeline) and looks more like a military galaxy class from this timelines mirror universe.

How is it a galaxy-class if you look at connection to the saucer section there is no thin neck like connection which the enterprise D had, but if you look at the excelsior-class and the Sovereign-class both have this similar connection to the ship in the trailer.

The ship's profile shot matches a Galaxy class, with the super wide saucer and the sort of bulbous deflector dish section. However, it has the Excelsior's swooped back Warp Nacelles, and a neck section that looks taken from an Ambassador class.

Hmm gonna have to say you right, ill be honest kinda glad I lost this debate.

 

[Shocksplicer]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the legendary "Start Trek Movie Curse." Historically, so the legend goes, every other ST movie is bad. Nemesis was horrible, J.J.'s Star Trek was ok.

This one is gonna bomb...

You seem to be forgetting that Star Trek 2009 broke the Star Trek Movie Curse by being a good odd-numbered Star Trek Movie. Without the curse, who knows how good this will be?

 

[AxelxGabriel]

Here`s a drinking game for ya! Take a shot every time someones jumping off of something!

 

[Wintermute_v1legacy]

As someone who never even watched a full episode of Star Trek, it's safe to say I can watch this like I'm watching MOVIE IN SPACE: WE ARE IN SPACE LOOK SPACE HOLY SHIT and enjoy it no problem, because it does look pretty awesome.

Edit: a quick search tells me there's a lot of series spanning the years. Should I give a second try at all and if so, where do I start?

 

[RicoADF]

Here`s a drinking game for ya! Take a shot every time someones jumping off of something!

Hey careful, your going to get someone killed from alcohol poisoning. Though at least its not the explosions drinking game, or *gulp* the lens flare one....

 

[Olas]

Everyone seems to be forgetting the legendary "Start Trek Movie Curse." Historically, so the legend goes, every other ST movie is bad. Nemesis was horrible, J.J.'s Star Trek was ok.

This one is gonna bomb...

According to the pattern...

The Motion Picture - Bad
The Wrath of Khan - Good
The Search for Spock - Bad (underrated)
The Voyage Home - Good
The Final Frontier - Bad
The Undiscovered Country - Good
Generations - Bad
First Contact - Good
Insurrection - Bad
Nemesis - Good? (Nobody thinks Nemesis is good)
JJ Abrams Reboot - Bad? (Most people like it)
Into Darkness (According to the pattern) - Good

So if the pattern is to believed the next movie should actually be good, but it was wrong about the last 2 according to general consensus so I'd ignore it.

At 2:03 I think that's a Klingon Bird of Prey. Don't blink or you'll miss it


Oh boy, yet another Star Trek movie about revenge. The last 3 movies have been about revenge. Why can't Star Trek be about something other than revenge. Star Trek is known for it's interesting and philosophical plots, now it's just "I'll get you for that!"

 

[james.sponge]

It is like Wrath of Khan but without Khan. The question is how many times can we rip the best ST movie.

 

[Mikoi]

Just to give a clear image of both ships.

EDIT:

http://trekmovie.com/2013/04/16/shot-by-shot-analysis-of-star-trek-into-darkness-domestic-theatrical-trailer/

Breakdown of the trailer frame by frame, in good quality res.