New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer: Shall We Begin?

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AxelxGabriel said:
Here`s a drinking game for ya! Take a shot every time someones jumping off of something!
That's what I was thinking too. There certainly is a lot of jumping off of high places in this movie.
 

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*headdeask*

No...no no no no. Seriously, just no.

BrotherRool said:
This is that Phantom Menace thing's sequel right?
Nah, not everyone in that was an annoying teen.
 

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I dunno about the mirror universe thing, no one had a beard....
And do these movies take place before during after or instead of the series?
And what's with the Deadspace zoomy-through debris sequence.
Colonial Marines, Thi4F (shudder) now this.
I'm cryogenically freezing my expectations for this year I'm so tired of hype and the associated dissappointment.
 

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Yay lens flair.....


But no seriously, I am looking forward to this, Benedict Cumberbatch is really starting to be the big baddie of our generation, Star Trek The Hobbit..... I wonder which villain he will tackle next....
Have you seen his Sherlock, though? I think he's damn well rather awesome there. Bilbo is totally his *****, too.

OT: Same here. Not interested in Zachary Quinto, I OD'd when Heroes was still worthwhile. Which is æons in the past now. Not interested in the Kirk guy, he's not my Kirk. Cumberbatch, though... aye, I feel I need some more Cumberbatch. Maybe I don't need more Cumberbatch. Maybe I want more Cumberbatch.
 

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Headdrivehardscrew said:
MorganL4 said:
Yay lens flair.....


But no seriously, I am looking forward to this, Benedict Cumberbatch is really starting to be the big baddie of our generation, Star Trek The Hobbit..... I wonder which villain he will tackle next....
Have you seen his Sherlock, though? I think he's damn well rather awesome there. Bilbo is totally his *****, too.

OT: Same here. Not interested in Zachary Quinto, I OD'd when Heroes was still worthwhile. Which is æons in the past now. Not interested in the Kirk guy, he's not my Kirk. Cumberbatch, though... aye, I feel I need some more Cumberbatch. Maybe I don't need more Cumberbatch. Maybe I want more Cumberbatch.
LOL..... Do I know Sherlock?..... Dude, I was popping popcorn, and setting aside the whole evening the night that show premiered here in the US, I am obsessed with the show's producer/writer... If he writes it I know about it, and see it the day it comes out.... It has been that way since 2003... OH GOD!!! that makes 10 years now!!! I just realized that.
 

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This is looking pretty good.

Just remember not to waste your money on the 3D version. It was post-converted to 3D after filming, against the Director's wishes (until Paramount got him to say he loved it)
 

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it looks pretty impressive. i have to admit that. have to see if my father will watch it. he is a trekky fan but not a fan to go in to cinemas. lol.
the last one was, well, watchable. my father thought is was alright but i could see he prefers the older once more.

this one, well, maybe i will watch it.
 

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Holy shit would you look at the size of the Warp Nacelles on that Galaxy Class. That thing is a monster.
When that thing warped in, I literally said "Holy Shit."
 

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Ugh... that dialogue. Seriously, close your eyes and listen to the lines in that trailer: does it sound at all like something Star Trek?
 

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DaxStrife said:
Ugh... that dialogue. Seriously, close your eyes and listen to the lines in that trailer: does it sound at all like something Star Trek?
Yeah, Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country or Sisko any times during the Dominion war. How about Picard losing the plot with the Borg during First Contact? Lots of times in fact.
 

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To be clear, I only threw in the Mirror Universe reference because it was the first thing to come to mind when I thought, "Where did he get that big-ass black starship?"
 

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Everyone seems to be forgetting the legendary "Start Trek Movie Curse." Historically, so the legend goes, every other ST movie is bad. Nemesis was horrible, J.J.'s Star Trek was ok.

This one is gonna bomb...
I actually really liked Nemesis, it was Data heavy, and Data is one of my favorite characters. Plus with the tragic loss the end and then the thing line of hope, it was a moving edition to the franchise.

J.J.'s Star Trek is the one that is horrible.

It is a throwaway action movie that embodies nothing of what Star Trek was and still is with the past material. Rehashing old jokes to do a piss poor job to try and appeal to the established and old fans, and having sort of similar looking ships and uniforms, does not make a good Star Trek movie.

It fails because its core and cover embody the act of trying to make a classic science fiction series "hip and cool" to the younger generation that didn't grow up with it. The cast was way too young, it had over the top flashy special effects, and for the most part, action, action, and more action, too keep the ADD ridden youth interested, because God for bid that there be actual long stretches of story development through normal paced talking, arguments, and discussions.

I actually felt ill when I left the theater, because of how horribly done J.J.'s Star Trek was, and is. And it makes me even more sick to know that even though it is set in an alternate universe, it has messed with the canon of the normal series timeline, Star Trek Online is proof of that.

This is why I have no hope for the new Star Wars, because Abrams when it comes to having control of an established franchise has no respect for anything that came before, he just skins it and dances around wearing the skin, while making fun of people that are heartbroken on how he ruins things because he wants to make them in his style, instead of doing them proper.
 

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Gammayun said:
MarsProbe said:
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knight4light said:
Gammayun said:
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so he traveled to the Mirror Universe and borrowed the keys to the Enterprise D
Ok yes I know it doesn't matter but that is now way the Enterprise D it would be the Enterprise E if it came from the alternate universe, or most likely its the excelsior class of which the Enterprise B was one. Please don't take my lunch money.
That is not enterprise B or E that is a very Stylized Galaxy class. Sharp edges and flat surfaces instead of curves. Its not from the Alternate timeline (see real timeline) and looks more like a military galaxy class from this timelines mirror universe.
Its hard to make out but it looks like a hybrid of an Excelsior class, a Galaxy class and an Ambassador class. At least in art direction anyway.
Can't help but think the "body" of the nacelle sections looks somewhat Excelsior class to me. Other than maybe the saucer section, can't see anything that looks reminiscent of the Galaxy class. It'll of course probably turn out to be none of the above, but if you squint a little you can always imagine it as bigger, meaner version of the standard "white" Enterprise. It's being taking a lot of protein shakes and working out a lot at the gym.

Don't really have a problem with this trailer myself....does the trick as far as I'm concerned.

Edit: Just a bit further on in that trailer (about 1:29), does Harrison's ship seem to have a gap in the middle of the saucer section? If so, that's no Starfleet ship design I'm aware of.
If you pause it at 2:13 you can see a clear view of the ship firing on the enterprise, and I have to admit that does look very Galaxy class to me. So I guess I might of been a bit wrong

Edit: Typed in wrong place, sorry.
That's it, I'm taking your lunch money.

OT: It looks just like the first film really: neither bad or great, an equilibrium of mediocre. Though I'm impressed by how awesome Sherlock is at being a villain.
 

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As someone who never even watched a full episode of Star Trek, it's safe to say I can watch this like I'm watching MOVIE IN SPACE: WE ARE IN SPACE LOOK SPACE HOLY SHIT and enjoy it no problem, because it does look pretty awesome.

Edit: a quick search tells me there's a lot of series spanning the years. Should I give a second try at all and if so, where do I start?
Star Trek: The Next Generation - seeing as how Picard is the only good captain. Though if you are planning to see this movie I'd check out the first J.J. Abrams flick, and possibly the original series ('same' captain as this film, different continuity).
 

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Well, this trailer gets points over the other ones for actually showing that, YES, this Star Trek movie does have star trekking in it. All we've been shown so far is mass destruction on Earth and deep ominous voices - not that this trailer didn't have that too.

I'm probably going to see this movie anyway, based on how much I enjoyed the last one, but the marketing for this movie has been terrible. Seriously, if it isn't the poster ripped straight from The Dark Knight trilogy, or the blond girl in her underwear for no important reason (nice and all, but come on), or the boring color pallete (especially compared to the refreshingly colorful previous film), or the BWAAAAAMP... it's the lack of flippin' space travel.
 

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Wintermute said:
As someone who never even watched a full episode of Star Trek, it's safe to say I can watch this like I'm watching MOVIE IN SPACE: WE ARE IN SPACE LOOK SPACE HOLY SHIT and enjoy it no problem, because it does look pretty awesome.

Edit: a quick search tells me there's a lot of series spanning the years. Should I give a second try at all and if so, where do I start?
Well, you have:

The original series Star Trek: 3 seasons, 6 movies.
The Next Generation: 7 seasons, 4 movies, the first Next Gen movie, melds together the original series cast with the Next Gen cast.
Deep Space 9: 7 Seasons.
Star Trek Voyager: 7 seasons
Last is a point of contention among Trekkies, but, Enterprise: 4 seasons. It is hit and miss, and is rather crazy because it takes place before the original series and messes around with time travel way too much.

So, 28 season, 10 movies.

Now I'm more partial to starting with Next Generation, because I grew up with it and it was the first series I knew of. But really, I guess you should start at the beginning with the original series, though prepare for old old sci-fi cheesy-ness with a sixties flare, because it aired from 1966 to 68.

Overall, I like Deep Space 9 the best, I watch it all the way through, just about every year, though, don't start with it.

Each series has it's own feel and style, though they all come together to make a rather cohesive franchise. If you do make it through a good portion of it, you will see why a majority of Trek fans detest/despise what J.J. has done.

If you have Netflix, watching all the series will be possible, and most of the movies.

OlasDAlmighty said:
Nemesis - Good? (Nobody thinks Nemesis is good)
JJ Abrams Reboot - Bad? (Most people like it)
I'm proving you wrong. I think Nemesis is good. The Data story-arch is sad, but heartwarming.

On Abrams, the only people I know that said they liked it, are people that have never watched Star Trek and don't know what makes Star Trek, Star Trek, and Star Trek fans that are in denial and make an acceptation based on the fact it is set in an alternate universe.

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DaxStrife said:
Ugh... that dialogue. Seriously, close your eyes and listen to the lines in that trailer: does it sound at all like something Star Trek?
Yeah, Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country or Sisko any times during the Dominion war. How about Picard losing the plot with the Borg during First Contact? Lots of times in fact.
I have all that fresh in my mind, because I re-watch most of the Star Trek franchise every year-year and a half, and Abrams stuff is nothing like it, and sounds nothing like it. Some of the words and word structure may be the same, but the acting force and the weight of properly structured story are nowhere present.
 

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The theory of a time travel, mirror universe starship isn't as outlandish as it sounds. I think an episode of Enterprise did that exact same thing right before its finale. If I remember right, the evil crew of Enterprise find that the Tholians have captured a Constitution-class, and they go and steal it. Basically, an excuse to play around on the TOS set without ruining the continuity of the last three episodes.

Anyway, yeah, the first thing that jumped to mind at the sight of that ship was a black, armor-plated Sovereign-class, and I think after comparing them, they still look pretty similar.


The nacelles are a little too big and higher up, but that's just the style of this universe. Other than that, the overall shape is pretty much the same, with the exception of being more angular in design. Even the size ratio seems about right when comparing it to Kirk's Enterprise.
 

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I'm sure it'll be just another mindless action story with flashy space battles but no intelligence. Like the 2009 movie. Or The Wrath of Khan. Or the TOS episode "Balance of Terror".

Wait...
 

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Gammayun said:
If you pause it at 2:13 you can see a clear view of the ship firing on the enterprise, and I have to admit that does look very Galaxy class to me. So I guess I might of been a bit wrong

Edit: Typed in wrong place, sorry.
Checking again, I can see what you mean. It's kind of hard to tell from this angle if it's nacelle's are sticking out almost at right angles in the Galaxy class style, but who knows. Given that someone said Harrison sounds rather like Picard at one point. So maybe it is Picard, or at least another clone of him, Nemesis style, who has knocked together his own badass version of the Enterprise D to get revenge on Kirk for...something. I couldn't imagine what though.

Well, if these haven't been some of the nerdiest posts I've made anywhere in a while. Though go back 15 years or so and I could also have rhymed off all the registration numbers for every significant Starfleet ship and not just the Enterprises. No, I wasn't very good at PE in school.

Edit: quote error.
 

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Sonic Doctor said:
J Tyran said:
DaxStrife said:
Ugh... that dialogue. Seriously, close your eyes and listen to the lines in that trailer: does it sound at all like something Star Trek?
Yeah, Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country or Sisko any times during the Dominion war. How about Picard losing the plot with the Borg during First Contact? Lots of times in fact.
I have all that fresh in my mind, because I re-watch most of the Star Trek franchise every year-year and a half, and Abrams stuff is nothing like it, and sounds nothing like it. Some of the words and word structure may be the same, but the acting force and the weight of properly structured story are nowhere present.
You think Star Trek: Nemesis is good, I think that gives an appropriate value to your opinions. Pines acting when he sees whatever ship that happens to be and realizes the mess he is in and that Pikes comment about getting his whole crew killed might come true is fairly good.

You claim Star Trek fans are in denial and its true, they are in denial but not for the reasons you give. The fans that are in denial are the ones that claim the new Star Trek films are nothing like the old ones when the opposite is true. They are exactly like the old ones, they just have modern SFX and modern action sensibilities.