New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer: Shall We Begin?

[Uhura]

I can't really muster up that much enthusiasm for this film. Looks like it could be a fairly entertaining popcorn movie but that's about it. It doesn't feel like Trek at all. Sigh.

 

[J Tyran]

I assume you where trying to quote me, if not sorry nvm.

Yes, we should all go through life doing whatever we can without those pesky "reasons" getting in the way. I'm sorry, but that might be one of the most insane things I've ever heard in my life.

I put "reasons" because a lot of them are entirely made up, simple fictions about what some people believe Star Trek is and isn't.

And how exactly did Trekkies almost destroy the franchise? In what way did we do anything close to that? Johnathan Frakes, Rick Berman, and Paramount are really the groups that you can point the fingers to, but Trekkies?

The series bogged down sniffing its own farts, Berman and the others farted in the Trekkies mouths. The Trekkies took a deep breath and then let one out into the mouth of Frakes and his cronies who breathed deeply, they in turn let another out and the cycle continued. The result was an ever increasing amount of gibberish and technobabble and a cycle of repeating the same limited number of episode types over and over. The quality of the writing also rapidly deteriorated. The Trekkies where to busy buying action figures and sewing uniforms to actually notice what was happening, so yes I blame them because they came up with these ideas about what they thought Star Trek was and the people that created the shows and the films beleived both them and their own press. Thats where the cycle began. In fact everything you accuse Star Trek 09 of being is exactly what the series had already turned into, the only difference is the reboot made it exciting and made it an action film that actually worked. So the new Star Trek never actually turned the series into anything it already wasn't, it just made it good.

A number of people have pointed out specific facts as to why the new movies are not Trek, and you dismiss them because they are "Reasons", and those things need to be avoided like the plague.

A number of people have pointed out some specific opinions as to why the movie is Trek. Also there are no facts here, only lots of opinion. The only objective fact is that a dying franchise was turned back into something that was successful, popular and critically acclaimed.

If you say that Trek was made relevant for the new generation because people are all about the flash and sparkle with no substance, you should be actively fighting against it! You should never lie down to the "reason" of "well, people are a lot more simple-minded nowadays, and we've got to make things for those mouth-breathing troglodytes and perpetuate a world of ignorance and simplicity". You may have completely lost it. You should seek help, in all seriousness. I'm worried about you.

Fight against? No not at all, I will be supporting it. They will get a movie ticket from me at least and depending on whether I like the film I might get the Blu-Ray. Thank you for the concern but I am fine, I avoided breathing in the better part of 10 years worth of flatus.

 

[Woodsey]

I dunno about the mirror universe thing, no one had a beard....
And do these movies take place before during after or instead of the series?
And what's with the Deadspace zoomy-through debris sequence.
Colonial Marines, Thi4F (shudder) now this.
I'm cryogenically freezing my expectations for this year I'm so tired of hype and the associated dissappointment.

It's just Thief. And they take place in an alternate time line.

 

[mrseriousguy]

Glad that problem is now solved, OlasDAlmighty! It's good to see debate on Trek/not Trek, it shows there is still passion about the franchise(s) almost 50 years since it first series came about. I for one am still going to see the movie. If Gene thought us anything always come with an open mind and to have fun every once and awhile.

 

[Laughing Man]

Yeah, it could definitely be some new type of ship. It is just really hard to tell based off of the angles they provided. Maybe it is someone from the future trying to get revenge on the changes in the past movie, someone like Picard or something. That would be interesting, but kind of a weird story.

It would be weird but I hope to god that is not a Galaxy Class ship, the Galaxy Class was a good looking ship and to be honest that thing is just any ugly brute. Only thing we have to remember is that The Enterprise only became the flag ship of the fleet and ergo the most advance ship of the fleet from The Next Gen onwards, before that it was just another ship of the Fleet and in some cases (Search For Spock) it was nowhere near the biggest and most advanced ship of the fleet.

As trek fan my position on the new Trek reboot? Well the problem is the word reboot. I have no really issue with the every minute has action, wobbly camera, explosions everywhere, lense flair, little character, action drives story rather than story drives action movie making style that the new movies are going for and had this been set in a post Voyager Trek Universe it would be fine, it's Star Trek and it's going in a new direction, fine, but taking the established canon and throwing in a new look and style, basically trying to rewrite the history but pushing it aside under the guise of alternate time line, well that doesn't wash I am afraid.

I recon the backlash from Trek fans would be much smaller if it had been set post Voyager rather than trying to rewrite the History, I make that assumption on what happened with Stargate Universe, that went in a different direction to SG1 and Atlantis, loved SG1 and Atlantis and fucking hated Universe but apart from them trying to rewrite the way the Stargate worked in the first episode I couldn't care less after that because they didn't really try to change what had come before.

I am gonna see this movie I hope that this alternate timeline story has some carry through and wasn't just used in the first movie as a way to split off from the established canon and do whatever the hell they want with it because you know 'alternate timeline'.