New US ISP sanctioned/controlled piracy database will mean the end to internet privacy.

[Stall]

I dont want the ISP's to know my phone number, my families names and locations. The worth of my house. My email address. Yada yada yada, and so on. Without my consent.

No, Im not against people watching pirates. The Protect IP as such cut internet from people downloading illigaly. Why should they have the ability to cut internet.. From everyone, nomatter what they are downloading?

Given the fact that you do business with them, and you their client, they probably already know all those things. Businesses can find out all those things about you ANYWAYS through means that already exist.

Nope. None at all. I'm not doing anything incriminating, so why should it bother me? The only reason you WOULD get bothered is if those details implicated you in something.

Spoiler: Slippery slopes are bad

I wish them luck trying to arrest every teenager everywhere. Fucking degenerates.

Holy cow. Not even a page in, and we have ALREADY have hit Godwin's Law? Damn... that must be some kind of record.

 

[ThatDaveDude1]

It won't bother you from a practical standpoint if you don't illegally download.

It can still bother you on principle regardless.
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Men can still care about Women's Rights. Straight people can still care about Gay Rights. Human beings can still care about Animal Rights.

Why do you feel that in this one area people need to be directly affected to give a shit, when they don't have to be in any other?

Did you just draw a parallel between piracy and women's/gay rights? Um, alright... that's an interesting analogy. Piracy is kind of illegal you know. Last time I checked, it wasn't a basic human right like, say what women's/gay rights and such.

No, I drew a parallel between women's/gay/animal rights and privacy rights.

Piracy isn't a right, but privacy is (at least according to the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights).

 

[AugustFall]

You know, if you didn't pirate things, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Saying you are concerned with this sort-of thing is more or less admitting to piracy, since it wouldn't bother you in the slightest if you didn't illegally download things.

It won't bother you from a practical standpoint if you don't illegally download.

It can still bother you on principle regardless.
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Men can still care about Women's Rights. Straight people can still care about Gay Rights. Human beings can still care about Animal Rights.

Why do you feel that in this one area people need to be directly affected to give a shit, when they don't have to be in any other?

While this is true I don't feel empathy for pirates...

I don't like the chance that any legit legal torrents could lead you to be put in this database. P2P is a good way of getting large files if it's legal.

 

[Irridium]

Wasn't there a ruling a while ago that said that ISP's were not enough to legally punish people?

Or did I just imagine that or get the story wrong?

 

[Stall]

I couldn't find another image.

Is this better for you? [small]For fucks sake, I didn't even equate the two.[/small]

Given the historical connotations of that poem, I would still consider that Godwin's Law.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off (as an excuse for piracy).

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.

You can keep posting this as many times as you want and you are never going to get anyone on your side...

OT: Pretty ridiculous, but it seems like a rumor right now. We'll have to wait and see.

 

[USSR]

You know, if you didn't pirate things, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Saying you are concerned with this sort-of thing is more or less admitting to piracy, since it wouldn't bother you in the slightest if you didn't illegally download things.

..what?
If I value my privacy, I'm a pirate?
There is just so much wrong with what you just posted, I can't even begin to understand,

 

[Jowe]

hmm an ISP that doesn't sign up to this will have all of the pirate customers from the others (which I am assuming to be a significant number) , causing the scheme to rapidly fall in on itself as other ISPs pull out in an attempt to regain customers.
I see this scheme rapidly falling apart...

 

[Rhaff]

Doesn't this only apply in the US?

 

[Xanthious]

I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off as an excuse for piracy.

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.

You're right, please post your full name, social security number, home phone number, address, birthday, and mother maiden name . . . . . that is unless you have something to hide.

As soon as I infringe on copyrights, via file sharing, I will!

But I don't, so I won't : P

And there's my point you don't want your information out there but you think it's fine for large companies to gather information from other people, likely without any form of oversight. Just because someone MIGHT be violating a copyright (there is no way they can know who specifically is doing it) then it should be open season to violate their privacy? But as I said previously this will do fuck all to stop any one that downloads regularly with half a brain. Those people will be largely unaffected.

 

[Sonicron]

Oh America, you so crazy!

I suggest someone construct a generator around Orwell's corpse. That thing must be spinning in its grave so fast it should be able to provide adequate power for at least ten households.

 

[WaruTaru]

I wish them luck trying to arrest every teenager everywhere. Fucking degenerates.

Why arrest when the ISP can just slow down/cut off the offender's internet? So much faster and easier.

 

[Versuvius]

Can someone feed the white knights into a woodchipper? Defending your right to privacy, no matter whos privacy. If YOU want it, you had better respect and fight for the right of the bloke next to you too.

 

[Iron Mal]

Didn't we all freak ot the last time someone suggested something like this? And didn't we all stop and laugh it off when we realised that actively monitoring and taking action against what could potentially be millions of people all over the globe would be a practical impossability?

If governments can't even manage a task like that then I doubt that any private company, no matter how large, could even come close to having the manpower and time and effort to keep a hawk-like gaze on what everyone is doing at any given time (much less do anything about it).

That's not even getting into the fact that randomly cutting paying customers off from their service for doing what might the might not even realise is something punishable (I'm sure that more than a lot of cases of piracy today could potentially be traced back to people who didn't actually know that what they were doing is technically illegal) that's going to put a bit of a hurt on ther business and profits (remember, even ISP's are going to try and please their customers to keep them with them no matter what).

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off (as an excuse for piracy).

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.

You can keep posting this as many times as you want and you are never going to get anyone on your side...

OT: Pretty ridiculous, but it seems like a rumor right now. We'll have to wait and see.

So 'your side' would be that the internet is a God given right, 'Freedom of Information' should allow piracy of games, movies, ect, and that fighting internet piracy is bad.

Glad we know each other better : )

You are assuming I HAVE a side. By "Pretty Ridiculous" I merely meant that this is the kind of MASSIVE change that can't be done this quickly.

What I was saying is that no matter how many times you support things such as these, it's always just going to come off as inflammatory.