New US ISP sanctioned/controlled piracy database will mean the end to internet privacy.

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Stall said:
Nikolaz72 said:
Private companies getting ahold of your private security details? No. . . No worries m8. Its all cool.
Nope. None at all. I'm not doing anything incriminating, so why should it bother me? The only reason you WOULD get bothered is if those details implicated you in something.
I disagree completely. I don't pirate software nor do I condone it and this news bothers me. I value my privacy and believe that as long as I'm not breaking a law, my thoughts and actions are my own and I maintain the right to control who knows them. I also value your privacy and your rights. Even if a download is 100% legal, it will be tracked and that's not right. More and more of our lives are conducted online and that will continue. Our computers are akin to our homes now. Unless the police have a credible reason that a crime is being committed in my home they need a search warrant to enter, and it takes credible suspicion to obtain a search warrant. The more we allow our rights and privacy to be whittled away, the more the authorities will want to take. We need a law protecting our online homes.

It slows down your browsing, but check out the Tor Browser. It was developed for use in countries where internet use is restricted. As with most things it can be used for "bad", but the intent of it is for freedom of thought and speech.
 

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You know, if you didn't pirate things, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Saying you are concerned with this sort-of thing is more or less admitting to piracy, since it wouldn't bother you in the slightest if you didn't illegally download things.
Oh ignorance is bliss isn't it :D
Let me explain what the actual name for this is, information control, something communism was extremely popular for and is well established in China.
It is also something highly illegal in any democratic country (if you indeed still have that), now let me know if you find it ok for your country breaking the laws it swore to uphold while controlling peoples communication?

I already know your answer, but maybe just maybe someone here will think for a second on what is going down.
 

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Given the historical connotations of that poem, I would still consider that Godwin's Law.
Umm, I'm sorry. Godwin's Law is not a "your argument is invalid" button.
The original meaning behind it was gauging whether a topic had been derailed. With Hilter and the Nazis being a hyperbolic example.
 

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The funny part about this is that there are already more than a few ways around this. As I said earlier downloading a torrent has always been kind of risky. This is just going to push pirates off to things like newsgroups and darknets.
 

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Why don't we take that

And keep it on your side of the Atlantic.

Joking aside; this just seems silly. They can't really do something like that. Can they?

Also; half of the american government will get caught downloading porn. That has to be worth something........
 

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I still hate my online life being tracked by ISPs
There was a reason why in the UK we fought so hard for some stupid internet law not to pass
because piggybacking can get you fucked over, but what if someone uses your internet to pirate and it isn't you?

Thats the thing, you can track I.P. address, but not computers and until they start tracking via MAC Address, they won't get anywhere at all
Until they figure out how to track individual pirates MAC Address' I don't want my private data being fucking lifted off my PC because they think I've pirated something
 

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I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off (as an excuse for piracy).

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
So no worries mate you were never in the loop for this.

Cookies for the authors name
 

theultimateend

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Stall said:
You know, if you didn't pirate things, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Saying you are concerned with this sort-of thing is more or less admitting to piracy, since it wouldn't bother you in the slightest if you didn't illegally download things.
This is why when people complain about the TSA I remind them they are a terrorist.

Nice to know someone else doesn't think about anything they write out.

I thought I was alone :(.

Mr.K. said:
Sober Thal said:
I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off (as an excuse for piracy).

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.
Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.
So no worries mate you were never in the loop for this.

Cookies for the authors name
Before I double check, I think Franklin.

*googles*

WOOT! Benjamin Franklin!

Thank you Civilization! (And I guess school)
 

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Oh America, you so crazy!

I suggest someone construct a generator around Orwell's corpse. That thing must be spinning in its grave so fast it should be able to provide adequate power for at least ten households.
Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Well, I'm hoping us in the UK can hold out a bit longer. I always thought we were the ones that would get this sooner. America has always been about freedom. I'm thinking Orwell had more of an effect here.

Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you and you sold me
There lie they, and here lie we
Under the spreading chestnut tree
 

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Meh. I'm in Sweden, so...
*Slurps on a slurpee*

But really, I am unsure this will come to pass. From what I read, it's far too ungainly to be of any practical use within said copyrighters aim. Not to mention it includes quite illicit methods of acquiring said goals.
...On the other hand, I have been surprised by far exceeding levels of ignorance.

But, with all plans, there's always a B; Storm the White House.
 

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Maybe the deep web will become something other than child porn and Russian gore when this shit flies. Would never image going there again.

it's a good thing I'm behind 7 proxies
 

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theultimateend said:
Before I double check, I think Franklin.

*googles*

WOOT! Benjamin Franklin!

Thank you Civilization! (And I guess school)
Extra crispy for you sir.


Avalanche91 said:
They can't really do something like that. Can they?
Oh you would be surprised what sorts of things money makes possible, but it is technically highly illegal.
 
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I think this is a bit ridiculous and I hope it gets shot down somehow aside from the obvious stupidity of kicking out paying customers and actually trying to monitor millions of people. If it is utorrent or whatever do they could everything as illegal or how do they plan to track people.
 

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AHAHAHAHA. Great, they can catch the stupidest people. Nowadays, the real pirates use filehosts, not P2P torrent programs. /notapirate

I am worried however, this will lead to a somewhat Atlas Shrugged moment and lead to bigger things. I am haunted by these words of wisdom: "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
 

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Sober Thal said:
Xanthious said:
Sober Thal said:
I don't see the internet as a God given right, and the 'Freedom of Information' BS just pisses me off as an excuse for piracy.

I say this is a great step in the fight against the spoiled internet thief.
You're right, please post your full name, social security number, home phone number, address, birthday, and mother maiden name . . . . . that is unless you have something to hide.
As soon as I infringe on copyrights, via file sharing, I will!

But I don't, so I won't : P
What? Why not now? Obviously you have nothing to hide, so why not post it up so that we can all use it as we see wish?

Wait, what's that? You like your privacy? Now that isn't right. Only pirates and people who have something to hide need privacy.
 

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You know, if you didn't pirate things, you wouldn't have to worry about it. Saying you are concerned with this sort-of thing is more or less admitting to piracy, since it wouldn't bother you in the slightest if you didn't illegally download things.
So you wouldn't mind me putting up a camera in your house? Of course you won't since you´re not doing anything wrong, right?

See how silly what you just said is? T.T"