Next Fallout: Ideas?

[A-D.]

Oh I agree with your point you just made, Bethesda were stoned while making most of Fallout 3 and the Enclave shouldn't have been in F3 along with the BoS.

I just think that the Enclave shouldn't return because they've already been featured enough, new factions should be introduced.

I would love to think that Fallout 3 never happened but sadly it did and it is sadly considered canon which means the Enclave did get blown up once again.

Well it offered Closure to the Enclave, mainly what happened to the Troops stationed outside the Rig, since you only blow up the Rig in F2.

Alas i'd like to keep them "present". That being that they exist, instead of merely used as a boogeyman of sorts. Hell they could make the next one set so you are actually a part of the Enclave, or rather what remains of it. Basicly like the Remnants, but starting over. Chicago would work for that one. And the "big bad enemy" is actually the Brotherhood this time around. The Van Buren Design Documents do include the Circle of Steel, a much darker Version of the Brotherhood which could just as well work. Include the shift from one to the other, and allow your Character to make a Impact, helping them towards either side, Brotherhood or Circle and "rebuild". If Tactics is considered entirely Canon, the Midwestern Brotherhood laid the groundwork for the only existing Civilization after the War, that being a actually controlled and civilized Area that gets as close to Old World Tech as possible.

Perhaps the Enclave Remnants, which you could play as, help make it happen, make up for the Shit they did basicly. Its a Option at least. As long as they dont bring back Vault 0 anyways.

But other than that, well yeah, Florida, Everglades, Arizona or Montana could be good Locations to base a future Installment in.

 

[CodeOrange]

Simple.

Place the next fallout hundreds of years after the last game, have an area where the enclave had flourished and created a fascist utopia/dystopia, where the main story involves you starting a revolution, though either terrorism, politics, or rising through the ranks.

Ofc the world around the enclave utopia is still a wasteland.

The Enclave have been blown up 3...fucking...times!

They're done, finished, kaput, gone, extinct, only remnants remain, and those remnants were in Fallout: New Vegas.

How about instead of reusing old factions we make new ones?

Well it doesn't need to be the Enclave, it could be any other faction. Either way, an old faction that's taken over will most definitely have more effect than just some random faction with no history. Well, either way would work.

Still, kinda sad that the Enclave would just continuously fail time after time. Would be nice to see them succeed for just one time.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Of course, you know the next Fallout will suck assballs.
Seriously, they actually fucked up Civ 5, stop getting hyped.

Based on what?
What does Civ 5 have to do with Fallout?

Although there are a few new elements I'd enjoy seeing. Maybe an opportunity to develop a romance with a companion, and have better character development with companions like Bioware does . . . where they actually make comments in your conversations with other NPC's. What about rain? It would be interesting if there was irradiated rain ever few weeks.

I thought Obsidian did a great job with the characters in Fallout: New Vegas.

The companions did develop over time and reacted to the various things you did in the wasteland, taking Veronica with you to Hidden Valley Bunker is a very different experience than not taking her. Dealing with Caesar's Legion is a lot different if you have Boone with you, Arcade Gannon allows you to meet former member sof the Enclave and see what it was like for them and what they think of the current world. Then there's Raul who basically provides an entire backstory that strecthes ober hundreds of years and gives us insight to Mexico during the Great War.

Well it offered Closure to the Enclave, mainly what happened to the Troops stationed outside the Rig, since you only blow up the Rig in F2.

Alas i'd like to keep them "present". That being that they exist, instead of merely used as a boogeyman of sorts. Hell they could make the next one set so you are actually a part of the Enclave, or rather what remains of it. Basicly like the Remnants, but starting over. Chicago would work for that one. And the "big bad enemy" is actually the Brotherhood this time around. The Van Buren Design Documents do include the Circle of Steel, a much darker Version of the Brotherhood which could just as well work. Include the shift from one to the other, and allow your Character to make a Impact, helping them towards either side, Brotherhood or Circle and "rebuild". If Tactics is considered entirely Canon, the Midwestern Brotherhood laid the groundwork for the only existing Civilization after the War, that being a actually controlled and civilized Area that gets as close to Old World Tech as possible.

Perhaps the Enclave Remnants, which you could play as, help make it happen, make up for the Shit they did basicly. Its a Option at least. As long as they dont bring back Vault 0 anyways.

But other than that, well yeah, Florida, Everglades, Arizona or Montana could be good Locations to base a future Installment in.

You bring up some interesting ideas but no, Tactics is not considered fully canon, however, that doesn't mean that Obsidian can't figure out a way to make them canon, most of the problems could be retconned but it would be messy and not as easy as getting rid of Aliens.

Also I think the Gulf Commonwealth (Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama) could be a good setting for a Fallout game. It hasn't been explored yet and could have new factions.

Well it doesn't need to be the Enclave, it could be any other faction. Either way, an old faction that's taken over will most definitely have more effect than just some random faction with no history. Well, either way would work.

If there's one thing Obsidian can do it's create new factions and give them a good history. Look at Caesar's Legion , ok yes they've been around since Van Buren but Obsidian fleshed out everything and put them in the game and created all the characters. I have faith Obsidian can create a solid, new faction.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Civ 4 is, quantitatively, one of the greatest PC games of ALL FUCKING TIME.
Civ 5 is, quantitatively, one of the greatest "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED NO ABANDON ALL FAITH GOD DOESN'T EXIST NOOOOO" of all time.

And Fallout 3 was just OK, do you think they can keep that up? (or even improve on that?)

I still don't get what Civ V has to do with the Fallout series.

Also, Fallout: New Vegas improved on Fallout 3 in every single way, so yes I do think they can do better. As long as Bethesda let Obsidian make future Fallout games then I personally think the Fallout series has a bright future.

 

[GonzoGamer]

London!

When my friend and I were walking around the other week (being the keen nerds we are), we were highlighting places that could be used in a Fallout: London game. Just think about it; it would be awesome. Big Ben, Houses of Parliament, O2 Arena, Thames, London Eye etc etc.

If it wasn?t an American city, I would definitely say London as well. But I always pictured that the US and China nuked each other back to the dark ages. Everyone else made it through allright and was happy to keep US and China in the dark...for the greater good.

 

[C-Mag]

It seems what we have in this thread is a sort of war between bright eyed newbie idealists who entered around Fallout 3, vs the grizzled old veterans of Fallout 1 staunchly defending the spirit of the first two games and the story that comes with it.

The idealists only know 3 and NV, and so find it much easier to imagine taking the series in a new diection. The vets loved the first two games, either tolerated or hated No 3, and liked NV (which actually seems like a bit of Obsidian fanboyism, but that's just me); they loved the world and greater theme of the fallout games and want to keep it completly pure.

The newbies and the vets both see the Fallout series in completely different ways, and as such will never agree with eachother. One group will continue to imagine a Fallout set outside of America, the other will instantly hate on that idea, and this has been going on for PAGES.

Can we move onto something other than setting?

 

[ChupathingyX]

SNIP

I entered the Fallout series with 3, but didn't like the way things were handled in the game, and so I went back and played the originals and explored the lore and timeline.

After that my opinion of F3 chnaged even more for the worse and my respect for New Vegas rose exponentially.

Bethesda just took the Fallout setting and went crazy with it, making heaps of stupid places and dumb plot ideas. For me Fallout 3 to this day still has the worst ending ever, not from a story standpoint but the whole sacrificing yourself thing which was just beyonf stupid.

As long as Bethesda let Obsidian create the next Fallout I'll be happy. Also I don't know if you know this but some of the devs who worked on the classic Fallouts moved to Obsidian which is why many, as you call them "vets", love Obsidian because they kept to the message of the originals and didn't screw up any lore.

 

[honestdiscussioner]

Although there are a few new elements I'd enjoy seeing. Maybe an opportunity to develop a romance with a companion, and have better character development with companions like Bioware does . . . where they actually make comments in your conversations with other NPC's. What about rain? It would be interesting if there was irradiated rain ever few weeks.

I thought Obsidian did a great job with the characters in Fallout: New Vegas.

The companions did develop over time and reacted to the various things you did in the wasteland, taking Veronica with you to Hidden Valley Bunker is a very different experience than not taking her. Dealing with Caesar's Legion is a lot different if you have Boone with you, Arcade Gannon allows you to meet former member sof the Enclave and see what it was like for them and what they think of the current world. Then there's Raul who basically provides an entire backstory that strecthes ober hundreds of years and gives us insight to Mexico during the Great War.

It was an improvement, that is for sure. Again, no romances were available. The closest thing was our Whiskey drinkin' caravan ridin' woman, which I totally would have wanted to get with, but alas. ***spoiler alert for new vegas*** the closest that comes is a brief flirting and in the end game when she decided to sleep with you only you can't be found, so she bangs a random soldier.

Despite Obsidian's improvement, there's still a lot more you can do with it.

 

[Peter Pottorff]

*Synthesised voice* Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace!!

Or alternatively some mutations available to the player, e.g. ghoul player or slow increase to super mutant.

What about Van Beuren Interplay's Fallout 3 that got cancelled?

 

[AlternatePFG]

Oh yeah, and for modern day Interplay to stay far, far away from it.

 

[GrimTuesday]

Seattle, I want to travel to the Space Needle and see how all of the hipsters died horrible horrible deaths (I live in Seattle don't get butthurt Washingtonians)
Fallout shouldn't leave America or at least it shouldn't go beyond Canada, that would make an interesting game.

I agree but think that it needs to be bigger than just Washington, we need the northern part of Oregon in it too. I really want to go traipsing about Portland, rummage through Powells bookstore for skill books, stare up at the ruins of The Rose Garden, and laugh at all the dead hipsters.

There seems to be a pattern here...

Also, think how cool it would be to go walking through the forests and suddenly out of nowhere a Yao guai
comes crashing through the trees with the sole purpose of ruining your day. Also I don't think Deathclaws would work in that environment, there are all sorts of bugs and other creepy crawlers in the NW to mutate into fearsome foes.

 

[Tuesday Night Fever]

Why would the chinese bomb Australia?

Radiation travels. When the Chernobyl disaster happened, radiation levels spiked all over Europe, for example.

Ever heard of the movie On the Beach (1959)? It's a movie set in the then-future 1960's a few months after World War III went nuclear. Most of the United States and Soviet Union got wiped out, Fallout style.

An American submarine, the U.S.S. Sawfish ends up in Australia, which wasn't hit by the warheads. Even though it wasn't directly hit, though, it is still just waiting to die, as radiation has polluted the atmosphere. Very, very bleak film.

Perfect for Fallout and its brand of dark humor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Beach_%281959_film%29

That's the film if anyone's interested.

 

[ExodusFlame]

Personally i like the idea of moving outside of America but there is parts of America id like to play for instance.

"The brotherhood out west": I would like to see these people and see how truly different they are from the brotherhood in fallout 3 and the outcasts in fallout 3

The rest of the world: Indeed there is a world out there! what happened to it? who knows make some DLC like if the next fallout was in a big city and the airport still worked could get a plane up and running and put a DLC add on or a new game where you can enter a plane that someone has fixed and travel to another part of the world like as mentioned London was it just America that got nuked?.

More enclave sort of heavy parts of the usa: One thing I really missed in New Vegas was the enclave were gone and the brotherhood were confined to a bunker the enclave were just a mention among the NCR who may have integrated some of the enclave. There was just no feel of the enclave anywhere in the NCR and i would like to see more enclave heavy parts of the USA like i would like to see more brotherhood heavy parts of the USA.

That's about it for now on destinations but there is more i would like to see like maybe when experiencing advanced radiation poisoning you could be in danger of mutating into a ghoul and if further exposed turn into a glowing one. Super mutants as much as i can gather from playing fallout 3 Super mutants are attracted to radiation and its like an aphrodisiac for them or something similar high radiation zones seemed to create them like in one of the vaults you had to enter in fallout 3. apparently the master created the first generation of super mutants but how did he do it? what causes them to turn? and why is the second generation of super mutants different from the first? something must have been done because as i recall in new vegas listening to black mountain radio signal the first generation are prone to wandering and are known to be unintelligent but second generation are intelligent. I would also like to be able to become or play as a nightkin increced sneak and agility but take a charisma penalty.

I would like to see new companions too like robots better than a Mr Gutsy or an Enclave Eyebot id like to have something bigger with maybe a tad more firepower like a secureitron or a new kind of robot rob co must have many many more models than we have been shown so far. Other new companions instead of a Dog you could have the likes of a mole rat a rad scorpion or something be able to find a tame one some crazy out there in the wasteland must have managed.

One last thing i would like to see in fallout that may or may not have been thought of a mental stability bar and items to help control it make it a new factor so good mental stability would have add perks to factors such as speech and bartering as well as intelligence the more mentally unstable you are you gain in strength and agility.

 

[Russian Pancake]

Wow, I slept for 6 Hours and come back to 200+ Responses! When this thread dies out, Ill probably try to contact Bethesda and get them to read this forum.

 

[Brazilianpeanutwar]

Wow some of you are sooooooooooooooooooooo boring -___-

"waah waah,canon states that blah blah blah"

"But in fallout world that wouldn't be feasible because..."


Who gives a fuck,just make a london game! DO IT NOOOOWW!!

 

[Alguien Manzano]

Have it take place in China, or the USSR or whereever the communist bad guys were!

OOh, and the protagonist is a super-mutant, or a robot!

 

[Kavic86]

I say if they are going to make a good fallout game with shit tons of possibilities include the entire planet and not just locations. That would be my idea, make it an mmo or something.

Please, please, please do not turn another great RPG series into an MMO. It's bad enough with KotOR going down that path

Not all MMO's are bad, sure some people may hate MMO for the only reason of them having to pay in order to play it while others hate it because its nothing more than do this thing 1000 times in order to level. But if done right it would be nice. I would really like to see Fallout online actually work out. If they take some of the good things from all the MMO's out there and work them in It would be good.

But I would still like to see a fallout game with the entire planet open for exploration, sure that would be a pain in the ass to do but it would be really cool to see how the world as a whole turned out, see if there are any unaffected areas out there and what not.