Nintendo Announces 2DS, Wii U Deluxe Price Cut

[JasonBurnout16]

Really not understanding much of the hate for the 2DS. I have a 3DS XL and would have brought this if it had been released before hand. The fact is I rarely use the 3D on my console, and this is the perfect solution for that. Also I rarely take it anywhere with me and would never carry it in my pocket, so the size wouldn't be an issue.

In fact I'm seriously debating selling my 3DS XL and some games, and picking one of these ups and making a small bit of extra cash on the side.

I especially thought the Escapist would be more open minded though; with the amount of people who usually complain about the 3D effects on the console, this has certainly surprised me.

 

[Roguebubble]

I don't see the point of handheld designed for the desk.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Really not understanding much of the hate for the 2DS. I have a 3DS XL and would have brought this if it had been released before hand. The fact is I rarely use the 3D on my console, and this is the perfect solution for that. Also I rarely take it anywhere with me and would never carry it in my pocket, so the size wouldn't be an issue.

In fact I'm seriously debating selling my 3DS XL and some games, and picking one of these ups and making a small bit of extra cash on the side.

I especially thought the Escapist would be more open minded though; with the amount of people who usually complain about the 3D effects on the console, this has certainly surprised me.

Here's the thing. The 3D was supposed to be so important to the system that it's in the name so for Nintendo to even offer a non-3D 3DS is surprising and it devalues the 3D feature from here on out as it's no longer a standard feature. For those who like the 3D effect, that would change everything.


Maybe you don't take your 3DS out but Nintendo designed it to be something people would take with them everywhere, hence the Streetpass feature. The 2DS not having a clamshell design is probably going to see it left at home more than the 3DS. I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time.

Also, some 3DS games have a great soundtrack, reducing the sound to mono is a slap in the face to those soundtracks. I saw something on NeoGaf similar to: "It has a stereo camera (though no 3D screen) and mono sound."

 

[JasonBurnout16]

Really not understanding much of the hate for the 2DS. I have a 3DS XL and would have brought this if it had been released before hand. The fact is I rarely use the 3D on my console, and this is the perfect solution for that. Also I rarely take it anywhere with me and would never carry it in my pocket, so the size wouldn't be an issue.

In fact I'm seriously debating selling my 3DS XL and some games, and picking one of these ups and making a small bit of extra cash on the side.

I especially thought the Escapist would be more open minded though; with the amount of people who usually complain about the 3D effects on the console, this has certainly surprised me.

Here's the thing. The 3D was supposed to be so important to the system that it's in the name so for Nintendo to even offer a non-3D 3DS is surprising and it devalues the 3D feature from here on out as it's no longer a standard feature. For those who like the 3D effect, that would change everything.

Maybe you don't take your 3DS out but Nintendo designed it to be something people would take with them everywhere, hence the streetpass feature. The 2DS not having a clamshell design is probably going to see it left at home more than the 3DS. I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time.

Also, some 3DS games have a great soundtrack, reducing the sound to mono is a slap in the face to those soundtracks.

But not everyone likes the 3DS but likes Nintendo games - now those people who want to play the new Nintendo games coming out can do so, without the 3D, at a much cheaper price. I don't see how that's a bad thing - it's only a good thing for Nintendo. The games are still going to be made in 3D so it won't be 'devaluing the 3D feature', it just gives a new choice for consumers. Also as the main poster says it's also meant for children 7 years and under who cannot play the games because of 3D features. Easy solution, opens up a new consumer base for Nintendo, and a cheaper price for the kids parents.

Furthermore the streetpass feature where I live is pretty moot - you wouldn't get a hit on it at all unless you went somewhere extremely public or somewhere that you knew there would be other DS players. Children also aren't going to be that bothered about streetpass. I rarely take my 3DS XL out anyway.

Lastly if the soundtrack is so great it will be enjoyed ether way. Don't really get this point so I won't argue it, but needless to say a soundtrack does not 'make' a game.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Really not understanding much of the hate for the 2DS. I have a 3DS XL and would have brought this if it had been released before hand. The fact is I rarely use the 3D on my console, and this is the perfect solution for that. Also I rarely take it anywhere with me and would never carry it in my pocket, so the size wouldn't be an issue.

In fact I'm seriously debating selling my 3DS XL and some games, and picking one of these ups and making a small bit of extra cash on the side.

I especially thought the Escapist would be more open minded though; with the amount of people who usually complain about the 3D effects on the console, this has certainly surprised me.

Here's the thing. The 3D was supposed to be so important to the system that it's in the name so for Nintendo to even offer a non-3D 3DS is surprising and it devalues the 3D feature from here on out as it's no longer a standard feature. For those who like the 3D effect, that would change everything.

Maybe you don't take your 3DS out but Nintendo designed it to be something people would take with them everywhere, hence the streetpass feature. The 2DS not having a clamshell design is probably going to see it left at home more than the 3DS. I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time.

Also, some 3DS games have a great soundtrack, reducing the sound to mono is a slap in the face to those soundtracks.

But not everyone likes the 3DS but likes Nintendo games - now those people who want to play the new Nintendo games coming out can do so, without the 3D, at a much cheaper price. I don't see how that's a bad thing - it's only a good thing for Nintendo. The games are still going to be made in 3D so it won't be 'devaluing the 3D feature', it just gives a new choice for consumers. Also as the main poster says it's also meant for children 7 years and under who cannot play the games because of 3D features. Easy solution, opens up a new consumer base for Nintendo, and a cheaper price for the kids parents.

Furthermore the streetpass feature where I live is pretty moot - you wouldn't get a hit on it at all unless you went somewhere extremely public or somewhere that you knew there would be other DS players. Children also aren't going to be that bothered about streetpass. I rarely take my 3DS XL out anyway.

Lastly if the soundtrack is so great it will be enjoyed ether way. Don't really get this point so I won't argue it, but needless to say a soundtrack does not 'make' a game.

They could play the games without 3D with the 3DS OG and 3DS XL. Let's not pretend that this model is the only one that allows 2D gaming. You say it's only good for Nintendo but in my previous posts I have listed why it isn't.

- They are competing against themselves
- This is going to cause unnecessary confusion

This does devalue the 3D feature, you know how non standard features are treated by third parties. 3D not being a standard feature anymore may very well affect future 3DS games.

I don't think your personal experience with Streetpass matters to this discussion nor is the fact that YOU don't take your 3DS out very often. Then again, you have an XL and that damn thing is huge too. It's size is one of the reasons I prefer my original 3DS.

Well, you may think there is no difference in mono and stereo but a handheld released in 2013 with mono sound is shameful. Maybe it saves Nintendo a quarter to not include that extra speaker.

 

[JasonBurnout16]

Really not understanding much of the hate for the 2DS. I have a 3DS XL and would have brought this if it had been released before hand. The fact is I rarely use the 3D on my console, and this is the perfect solution for that. Also I rarely take it anywhere with me and would never carry it in my pocket, so the size wouldn't be an issue.

In fact I'm seriously debating selling my 3DS XL and some games, and picking one of these ups and making a small bit of extra cash on the side.

I especially thought the Escapist would be more open minded though; with the amount of people who usually complain about the 3D effects on the console, this has certainly surprised me.

Here's the thing. The 3D was supposed to be so important to the system that it's in the name so for Nintendo to even offer a non-3D 3DS is surprising and it devalues the 3D feature from here on out as it's no longer a standard feature. For those who like the 3D effect, that would change everything.

Maybe you don't take your 3DS out but Nintendo designed it to be something people would take with them everywhere, hence the streetpass feature. The 2DS not having a clamshell design is probably going to see it left at home more than the 3DS. I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time.

Also, some 3DS games have a great soundtrack, reducing the sound to mono is a slap in the face to those soundtracks.

But not everyone likes the 3DS but likes Nintendo games - now those people who want to play the new Nintendo games coming out can do so, without the 3D, at a much cheaper price. I don't see how that's a bad thing - it's only a good thing for Nintendo. The games are still going to be made in 3D so it won't be 'devaluing the 3D feature', it just gives a new choice for consumers. Also as the main poster says it's also meant for children 7 years and under who cannot play the games because of 3D features. Easy solution, opens up a new consumer base for Nintendo, and a cheaper price for the kids parents.

Furthermore the streetpass feature where I live is pretty moot - you wouldn't get a hit on it at all unless you went somewhere extremely public or somewhere that you knew there would be other DS players. Children also aren't going to be that bothered about streetpass. I rarely take my 3DS XL out anyway.

Lastly if the soundtrack is so great it will be enjoyed ether way. Don't really get this point so I won't argue it, but needless to say a soundtrack does not 'make' a game.

They could play the games without 3D with the 3DS OG and 3DS XL. Let's not pretend that this model is the only one that allows 2D gaming. You say it's only good for Nintendo but in my previous posts I have listed why it isn't.

- They are competing against themselves
- This is going to cause unnecessary confusion

This does devalue the 3D feature, you know how non standard features are treated by third parties. 3D not being a standard feature anymore may very well affect future 3DS games.

I don't think your personal experience with Streetpass matters to this discussion nor is the fact that YOU don't take your 3DS out very often. Then again, you have an XL and that damn thing is huge too. It's size is one of the reasons I prefer my original 3DS.

Well, you may think there is no difference in mono and stereo but a handheld released in 2013 with mono sound is shameful. Maybe it saves Nintendo a quarter to not include that extra speaker.

While the other models do let you play in 2D this model is cheaper and therefore people who want to only play in 2D will want to buy this model. I don't really care about them competing against themselves or it causing confusion to other people - if people don't do the research before buying something worth over £100 then that's their problem, I just know that I most certainly would.

However I don't understand why I can't use my personal experience with streetpass when you use your personal experience with the Vita to back up your statements by saying 'I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time'. That's just a bit hypocritical.

Does that extra speaker really make all that much of a difference? You'll still have sound! You'll still have music! It's just picking really small holes for very little reason.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Really not understanding much of the hate for the 2DS. I have a 3DS XL and would have brought this if it had been released before hand. The fact is I rarely use the 3D on my console, and this is the perfect solution for that. Also I rarely take it anywhere with me and would never carry it in my pocket, so the size wouldn't be an issue.

In fact I'm seriously debating selling my 3DS XL and some games, and picking one of these ups and making a small bit of extra cash on the side.

I especially thought the Escapist would be more open minded though; with the amount of people who usually complain about the 3D effects on the console, this has certainly surprised me.

Here's the thing. The 3D was supposed to be so important to the system that it's in the name so for Nintendo to even offer a non-3D 3DS is surprising and it devalues the 3D feature from here on out as it's no longer a standard feature. For those who like the 3D effect, that would change everything.

Maybe you don't take your 3DS out but Nintendo designed it to be something people would take with them everywhere, hence the streetpass feature. The 2DS not having a clamshell design is probably going to see it left at home more than the 3DS. I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time.

Also, some 3DS games have a great soundtrack, reducing the sound to mono is a slap in the face to those soundtracks.

But not everyone likes the 3DS but likes Nintendo games - now those people who want to play the new Nintendo games coming out can do so, without the 3D, at a much cheaper price. I don't see how that's a bad thing - it's only a good thing for Nintendo. The games are still going to be made in 3D so it won't be 'devaluing the 3D feature', it just gives a new choice for consumers. Also as the main poster says it's also meant for children 7 years and under who cannot play the games because of 3D features. Easy solution, opens up a new consumer base for Nintendo, and a cheaper price for the kids parents.

Furthermore the streetpass feature where I live is pretty moot - you wouldn't get a hit on it at all unless you went somewhere extremely public or somewhere that you knew there would be other DS players. Children also aren't going to be that bothered about streetpass. I rarely take my 3DS XL out anyway.

Lastly if the soundtrack is so great it will be enjoyed ether way. Don't really get this point so I won't argue it, but needless to say a soundtrack does not 'make' a game.

They could play the games without 3D with the 3DS OG and 3DS XL. Let's not pretend that this model is the only one that allows 2D gaming. You say it's only good for Nintendo but in my previous posts I have listed why it isn't.

- They are competing against themselves
- This is going to cause unnecessary confusion

This does devalue the 3D feature, you know how non standard features are treated by third parties. 3D not being a standard feature anymore may very well affect future 3DS games.

I don't think your personal experience with Streetpass matters to this discussion nor is the fact that YOU don't take your 3DS out very often. Then again, you have an XL and that damn thing is huge too. It's size is one of the reasons I prefer my original 3DS.

Well, you may think there is no difference in mono and stereo but a handheld released in 2013 with mono sound is shameful. Maybe it saves Nintendo a quarter to not include that extra speaker.

While the other models do let you play in 2D this model is cheaper and therefore people who want to only play in 2D will want to buy this model. I don't really care about them competing against themselves or it causing confusion to other people - if people don't do the research before buying something worth over £100 then that's their problem, I just know that I most certainly would.

However I don't understand why I can't use my personal experience with streetpass when you use your personal experience with the Vita to back up your statements by saying 'I don't take my Vita out much because it doesn't fit in my pocket but my 3DS goes with me all the time'. That's just a bit hypocritical.

Does that extra speaker really make all that much of a difference? You'll still have sound! You'll still have music! It's just picking really small holes for very little reason.

Confused consumers are Nintendo's problem.

The difference is that your Streetpass experiences are not representative of everyone while most people would agree that the Vita is too big to fit into your pocket. However, if you want to throw my Vita example out, that's fine.

As for sound, I guess I thought we were beyond the Game Boy days.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

2DS: Ultimately it's completely harmless. It's meant for kids, so Nintendo is just being considerate towards a demographic that most game companies seem to ignore almost out of spite. They'll still be making money.

Wii U: The price drop is a surprise, but considering the titanic lineup it has for this fall I can see it not being an issue for them. The circumstances are almost exactly the same as the 3DS and I can't help but feel that naysayers will wish they had shut their mouths for the past year

 

[Dark Knifer]

I was almost happy about this but it looks like a goddamn brick.

Let's hope they fix that or the 3ds gets even cheaper.

 

[Loop Stricken]

I just bought a 3DS today, too...

 

[JasonBurnout16]

Confused consumers are Nintendo's problem.

The difference is that your Streetpass experiences are not representative of everyone while most people would agree that the Vita is too big to fit into your pocket. However, if you want to throw my Vita example out, that's fine.

But I don't think it's something to condemn the console over - it's offering a service to 2 areas of people not yet targeted: Those too young for 3D and those who dislike 3D, at a cheaper price. I still do not understand how this is a negative.

You use your Vita example saying that you take your 3DS with you where ever you go: However just because you do, does not mean that other people also do.

On the other hand I will admit that the console could look a lot better and would be MUCH more improved with a flip screen. However overall I believe Nintendo can justify a need for this console, and the 'confusion' people are claiming would easily be solved if consumers read up on what they were buying.

 

[Madame_Lawliet]

I just laughed for fifteen minutes straight.
Thank you Nintendo, this made my entire day!

 

[WeepingAngels]

Confused consumers are Nintendo's problem.

The difference is that your Streetpass experiences are not representative of everyone while most people would agree that the Vita is too big to fit into your pocket. However, if you want to throw my Vita example out, that's fine.

But I don't think it's something to condemn the console over - it's offering a service to 2 areas of people not yet targeted: Those too young for 3D and those who dislike 3D, at a cheaper price. I still do not understand how this is a negative.

You use your Vita example saying that you take your 3DS with you where ever you go: However just because you do, does not mean that other people also do.

On the other hand I will admit that the console could look a lot better and would be MUCH more improved with a flip screen. However overall I believe Nintendo can justify a need for this console, and the 'confusion' people are claiming would easily be solved if consumers read up on what they were buying.

So the confusion could be solved if consumers educated themselves? That's true but it won't happen and it's Nintendo's job to educate consumers about Nintendo's products and part of that is not to have a confusing name.

We saw this with the 3DS, people were confused about the difference between the DS and the 3DS. Fair enough but then Nintendo did it again with the Wii U and now they are doing it a third time.

Also, you keep calling it a console. It's a handheld, it's meant to be portable and it's meant to be taken places. Even Nintendo has stressed it's portability with Streetpass. The Game Boy was also meant for on-the-go gaming but the 3DS goes that extra mile to drive the point home. Being portable enough to fit in a pocket is important for a portable gaming device. IMO.

 

[WeepingAngels]

2DS: Ultimately it's completely harmless. It's meant for kids, so Nintendo is just being considerate towards a demographic that most game companies seem to ignore almost out of spite. They'll still be making money.

The ad shows adults playing it too and that kid in the ad is older than 6 or 7..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAExBTWIp3M

Somebody better tell the marketing department that this is just meant for kids who are too young to use the 3D feature. They didn't even put any pre-3D aged kids in the ad. I am going to say that this is not meant just for kids.

Can we not pretend that all the flaws are ok because it's meant for kids?

 

[WeepingAngels]

*Spits out drink* This WASN'T a joke?! Someone told me about this and i honestly just chuckled to myself thinking it was cute. Oh god it looks like a POP station riff-off of a Nintendo DS you'd get in Pound-land! They want over £100 for that monstrosity?

It looks like a door wedge. DS=Door Stop.

The IGN guys said that when they came back to the office, after Nintendo showed them the 2DS, everyone thought they were trolling.

 

[Midniqht]

This thing looks grossly unwieldy. Also, 2DS? They aleady have those... they're just called every other device Nintendo has made in the past

I guess they ran out of names to call it. Could say 4DS, and certainly couldn't use the Wii again. No points on their naming department.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Is it me or does this seem kind of superfluous?

 

[WeepingAngels]

So what happens if this sells really well due to it being $40 cheaper? Will we see a 2DS XL? Will we see the 3DS get phased out?

It's unlikely but what if?