Nintendo Exec Asks That Disappointed Metroid Fans "Trust Us"

[Snotnarok]

This is not "reinventing the franchise" Reggie. The original Metroid Prime games, those were reinventing the franchise. This is making a different franchise and slapping the Metroid name on it.

I was about to make the same accusation of different game with a familiar name slapped on it. It's really common with them so it wouldn't be a surprise.
I hate that they keep doing it though, some of the games seemed like they'd have been entirely better if they didn't have the familiar name slapped on it. Star Fox Adventures being one of them.

 

[vagabondwillsmile]

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong.

It's a proper name. They get corrupted with time. The spelling isn't wrong for the pronunciation, as it's not spelling the word.

Yeah, that often happens for any number of reasons. Some documents have the accent for his name though and others don't. His twitter doesn't have it so we could use that as an indicator of how he would spell it himself. But is that a twitter thing, or is it him making it easier on people who don't know the key stroke, or the way he actually spells it. We could always get him to sign something with his full name and see how he WRITES it! Haha!

 

[And Man]

my only thought on this game is that it should have been an extra mode in Splatoon not part of the Metroid universe

What does this have to donope, I thought all it was was just playing soccer in a Metroid universe with Splatoon? You do know that the soccer game isn't the entire game, don't you?

nope I thought the whole thing was just Metroid's version of a soccer league game. So is this like that horrible Metroid Prime for the DS? That's even worse

Looks like a 4-player co-op, mission-based Metroid Prime game. The gameplay looks fairly standard for Metroid Prime, though with less exploration. Here's some gameplay from Nintendo's Treehouse at E3. I think it looks decent enough.

Honestly, I think a good part of the backlash is probably due to poor marketing/presentation by Nintendo, which sadly isn't really anything new.

 

[Silentpony_v1legacy]

Because when has Nintendo ever pile-driven a beloved franchise into the ground with bullshit titles and cheap gimmicks?!

Oh wait...

 

[vagabondwillsmile]

Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

My issue isn't that it doesn't have Samus, or even that it doesn't resemble a Metroid game. My issue is that it does resemble a Metroid game, Metroid Prime Hunters, and that game was garbage. Reinventing a franchise is fine, but don't use it as an opportunity to repeat past mistakes.

Something of a tangent, but how exactly does one pronounce "Fils-Aime"?

Fees-a-may

P.S. Thanks

That is pronouncing his name correctly, but the spelling is wrong. Everybody keeps leaving off the accent that is supposed to appear over the "e" like this: "Aimé". See the accent? WITHOUT the accent it is pronounced "Fees-Am".

That accent mark is VERY IMPORTANT because it changes this particular word from being a verb the simple present tense (in the first person singular) "Aime", to the past participle (congugated in the masculine) "Aimé" - or even as an adjective. Without the accent the word is pronounced differently and is contextualized in a different tense.

Oh you whacky Europeans, putting little hats on all your letters.

I don't even know how to type an accent on my 'e'.

The keyboard shortcut is alt (opt for mac) plus e. The little accent appears, and then you press e again to put it under the accent. There is an accent that goes in the opposite direction as well over e's and a's. It's in the top left of your keyboard - alt plus that, and then e. Depending on context, the accents serve a variety of functions.

 

[TitanAura]

Reminds me of the nonsense that happened with Metroid Prime. Man, that game was TERRIBLE! /sarcasm

I can get why people would be worried, but honestly I'm glad Nintendo is taking more risks like this. Even if it fails, we're given something that is at least INTERESTING to discuss, ala Other M. Say what you want about how terrible Other M was, at least it sparked real discussions.

 

[thewatergamer]

Uh Huh see guys here is the problem trust isn't something just given to you, it's something you earn, and as of now, the Metroid series has been dead for far too long, and instead of making a true sequel to the prime series on the Wii-U (not the BS one like Other M) you instead make a spin-off for the 3DS... Yeah see the problem?

 

[dumbseizure]

Nintendo, it has been 8 years since you have done a Metroid Prime game, and 5 years since you did a Metroid game in general.

Showing off this game, what appears to be a chibi style metroid on the 3ds that looks akin to Metroid Hunters (which wasn't exactly good) was always going to get some backlash. There are a lot of people who wanted a more traditional 2d metroid or a tried and true 3d Metroid Prime on a home console (wii-u), not this......thing.

But whatever, I know I won't be buying it, what the hell do I care.

 

[Baresark]

Well, people are upset because the game looks like shit, to be honest. I don't want a MP Metroid game, I would prefer an actual Metroid game (preferably 2D, but I would take 3D)(also, clearly looking for that solo fun experience that feels so creepy and solitary).

I love it, "we have to reinvent the games to keep fans interested"... that is the dumbest line of reasoning I have ever heard. No, you don't reinvent games to keep fans interested, you make more of that fuckin' game. This is rather funny since there has been little change in Zelda since it hit 3D, all the while the handhelds keep up the same exact gameplay as the SNES Zelda. Same thing with Mario.

I hate to say it, this is how you alienate fans, not make them happy.

I also thought we were passed the point where companies were thinking that in order for a game to successful it has to have MP. Nintendo, they have addled minds at this point, my god.

 

[EbonBehelit]

Nintendo? We're not disappointed that you made a spinoff game. We're disappointed that you elected to do so for a franchise that hasn't had a new proper iteration in eight years (damn right I'm ignoring Other M).

Nobody gets mad when Nintendo makes spinoff titles for Mario or Zelda, because for the most part we always know that a new installment of the series is being worked on since Nintendo actually cares about keeping those IPs relevant. The niche stuff like Metroid and F-Zero, though..... good luck.

I don't even necessarily want a new Prime game, either. Can you imagine how good a new 2D Metroid game could be on the Wii U? *drool*

 

[go-10]

Looks like a 4-player co-op, mission-based Metroid Prime game. The gameplay looks fairly standard for Metroid Prime, though with less exploration. Here's some gameplay from Nintendo's Treehouse at E3. I think it looks decent enough.
Honestly, I think a good part of the backlash is probably due to poor marketing/presentation by Nintendo, which sadly isn't really anything new.

I know I'm wrong but that reminds me more of Monster Hunter in the Metroid universe, not bad although I don't like the idea of another first person Metroid game

I think the backlash though is due more to a lack of Samus, these characters haven't been introduced yet so it's hard to care for any other part of the Metroid universe when our focal point has always been Samus

 

[Nazulu]

Oh c'mon. They should know this is one of their biggest franchises. Some of those classics are seen as epics, so Federation Force was obviously going to be compared to them, and it just looks fucking lame.

I believe the artist can do whatever they want with their ideas, but they've already failed delivering the wow factor with this one.

Then again, Nintendo can't do anything like they used to anymore, so this looks about right.

 

[Casual Shinji]

"Trust us." *working on releasing a new console for the following year*

Yeah Nintendo, wonderful. So glad I bought a Wii-U.

 

[Redd the Sock]

And the damage control begins.

It's hard to pity Nintendo here. They slapped Metroid on a rather meek trailer for something that in no way would make anyone get excited. The hatred may be overdone, but it's still a "what the fuck did you expect" moment.

As for as re-inventing games, has Nintendo looked at their biggest hits in the last few years: Pokemon, Mario Kart, New super mario bros, Smash bros, Zelda OOT and LBW, fucking mario party. Nintendo's biggest wins that weren't the gimmicks to more the wii have come from not re-inventing the wheel, but rather tweaking past successes and refining them. It might be stagnant, but at least people like what you've stagnated on.

 

[Erttheking]

Yeah see, trust is earned. I bought Metroid Prime without a second thought because the series had earned my trust.

otherfucking M followed by six years of no releases burned all of that trust with white phosphorous.

Also, FUCK YOU you are not keeping the franchise fresh. How the fuck is copying Metroid Hunters keeping it fresh you cunts!?

 

[Erttheking]

After the farcical disaster that was Metroid: Other M, you don't get any trust on this subject Nintendo. Not before you've proven you can actually deliver a proper Metroid game(be it a proper Prime type or preferably a proper 2D one ala Super M, Fusion and Zero Mission).

Oh, get over yourself, Other M was by a completely different developer altogether, and the guy who primarily screwed things up isn't even involved this time. This is Next Level Games, the guys behind Punch-Out!! Wii and Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon. They're not Retro, but they've shown what they can do with a 3DS. Besides, the Treehouse Live playthrough painted a much better image of the game than the Direct trailer.

I was angry at first, too, saying this didn't deserve the "Prime" subtitle, but after seeing this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu5haRZ9A8], I feel more reassured. Plus, they've stated that the story in this game is meant to be a setup for a proper Prime 4 in the future, which is possibly what Retro's working on.

Yes, we were all disappointed by E3, but have a little faith.

Nintendo is not a religion, they are a company. I don't have faith in a company because having faith requires trust and I don't trust them after a goddamn eight year drought of proper Metroid games, one that's looking to go on for a few more years, and I don't have faith in companies in general because every time I let my guard down around a corporation my trust gets taken advantage of. And I'm sorry, when I'm looking at a game and it reminds me of the goddamn worst game in the series until Other M came along, "have faith" is not a phrase that springs to mind.

And Metroid Other M still shows an appalling lack of judgement on Nintendo's part, a matter chibi-prime has yet to convince me otherwise on

You know, none of the other Prime games needed a set-up.

 

[Quellist]

Oh bollocks Nintendo. If it ain't broke dont fix it, anyway this isn't taking the IP and making it new again, this is slapping the Metroid name on a crappy game that has fuck all to do with Metroid and hoping no-one will notice

 

[loa]

I don't remember that kind of backlash for hyrule warriors or pokemon mystery dungeon so maybe whether the spinoff is good or bad isn't relevant.
You also did plenty of "reinventing" in other M but nobody reacted negatively to its announcement cause it's still samus shooting or otherwise doing stuff with metroids.

People also reacted positively to mario kart because there was an actual mario game, mario kart wasn't all there is.
Mario wasn't "reinvented" to be a racing game but you're telling me that metroid needs to be "reinvented" to now be something completely else that appears to radically differ from what made metroid metroid? That's kind of ludicrous.

You do the the equivalent of taking masterchief out of a halo game or snake out of a metal gear solid game or indeed taking mario/luigi out of a game but still slapping the "mario" label on it.
That's like that XCOM shooter or that dungeon keeper mobile game except that those still had more to do with their franchises than whatever you showed.

Also you keep re-iterating pokemon and mario games without batting an eye.
You have not earned the right to claim you seek to prevent your franchises from getting stale, you are the epitomy of iterative franchises and I hope this isn't the new trend nintendo will follow because I would like my pokemon to still somewhat resemble a monster enslavement game instead of poke city, city building simulator featuring nothing you saw in a pokemon game ever.

 

[Jofe]

This is not "reinventing the franchise" Reggie. The original Metroid Prime games, those were reinventing the franchise. This is making a different franchise and slapping the Metroid name on it.

Exactly. I can't tell if the game will be good or bad at this point, but if they're going to deviate this much why not make a new ip instead of slapping the Metroid name on it? It's not like making it a new ip is a death sentence, Splatoon did well.