Nintendo is not cool

[starwarsgeek]

I can't think of a single high profile Nintendo game coming out this year.

It will probably end up getting pushed back, but Skyward Sword is currently scheduled for 2011.

Now it's time for the Wii.

Mario platformers
Mario racers
Smash Bros.
DK country returns
Kirbys epic yarn
Fire Emblem
Klonoa
Little King's Story
Twilight Princess
Madworld
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
Monster Hunter Tri
No More Heroes
Red Steel 2 (The first was crap, the 2nd is just too short, but great great fun to play)
Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor
Tales of Symphonia
Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Possibly even better than MvC3)
Eledees (Known as Elebits outside Europe I believe)
Battalion Wars

If you don't mind a little feedback, I'd add Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, and House of the Dead Overkill. Muramasa is a game that, quality-wise, would have been right at home on the SNES...one of my favorite "retro" games on the system. As for RE and House of the Dead, rail shooters are just perfect for the Wiimote.

 

[Henkie36]

I absolutely hate Nintendo. Mainly because it's the largest, richest and oldest games developer in the world and they still can't think of a new game every 5 years or so, or even ten years. It's just a load of sameyness, dating all the way back to 1984, and the differences on terms of gameplay, story and character development are subtle (insert Yathzee quote), ''in fact, you can be forgiven for saying:''There aren't any.''.'' Zelda and Mario don't seem to have undergone any changes despite maybe a slightly remodeling in HD, but that's it. Rockstar can develop a character better in 30 minutes then Nintendo can in 30 years and yes that is pretty fucking embarrasing! I am totally tired of saving Peach's ass up to a big ''Screw you, *****, get someone else to do this besides Luigi!''

All right, I will admit that Rockstar basically have been making the same game for the past fifteen years, you dropped in a city and you murder everyone and steal their cars, but at least the guy you play changes, and you get to know everyone of them!

Hardware from Nintendo always is experimental, and mostly realeased before it fully works properly. This not a good thing, and learning throughh trial and error is not something in its favor when you have to pay 300 bucks for it. And the Wii wasn't that groundshaking, since the same company made it before, only a lot worse. And uglier. Even the most adement Nintendo fanboy can unirobically claim that the Power Glove worked just fine.

In short, I hate Nintendo because they spend less time writing new scripts then they spend counting all the money Mario has made them.

 

[Mehall]

The PS1 and PS2 were the same. Tons and tons of shovelware, and you had to look for the gems. People have just gotten lazy and not bothered LOOKING anymore.

I can't think of a single high profile Nintendo game coming out this year.[/quoet]

Not one?
The Last Story
Skyward Sword
Xenoblade Chronicles

A different controller does not equal innovation or pushing gaming in any way; it will remain nothing more than a remote until something actually takes that idea and makes something new with it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aside from Nintendo properties, No More Heroes, and that Monster Hunter game, what has come out that oozes excellence and really made something different and did it almost perfectly?

See my previous reply. Almost every single one of the games I listed used it an either an intuitive or exciting way.

As for what you said with HD - it does matter a little. HD claimed to be better video and sound, and that's exactly what it delivered. HD also makes everything in the picture clearer, allowing a gamer to make out better details at further distances. It's nothing big, sure, but it never claimed to be. Nintendo claimed to be something huge, and as far as I can tell it hasn't done anything.

HD was hyped more than even 3D is being hyped. I disagree with Nintendo not at least having some form of true HD output on the Wii, but when the Wii was released most people still used SD screens.

Oh, and when I statred working in a games shop ni 2009 (and through most of 2010) most people buying any console (including the Blu-ray equipped PS3) didn't have an HD TV, or weren't hooking up their console to the main TV.

 

[Mehall]

I can't think of a single high profile Nintendo game coming out this year.

It will probably end up getting pushed back, but Skyward Sword is currently scheduled for 2011.

Now it's time for the Wii.

Mario platformers
Mario racers
Smash Bros.
DK country returns
Kirbys epic yarn
Fire Emblem
Klonoa
Little King's Story
Twilight Princess
Madworld
Metroid Prime: Trilogy
Monster Hunter Tri
No More Heroes
Red Steel 2 (The first was crap, the 2nd is just too short, but great great fun to play)
Sin & Punishment 2: Star Successor
Tales of Symphonia
Tatsunoko vs Capcom (Possibly even better than MvC3)
Eledees (Known as Elebits outside Europe I believe)
Battalion Wars

If you don't mind a little feedback, I'd add Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles, and House of the Dead Overkill. Muramasa is a game that, quality-wise, would have been right at home on the SNES...one of my favorite "retro" games on the system. As for RE and House of the Dead, rail shooters are just perfect for the Wiimote.

Muramasa! Of course! Knew I was forgetting one!
And I don't think Overkill should make the list, but I would agree with you on the Resi games.

 

[Total LOLige]

Ok first of all I'm going to remind everyone that HD is just a big fucking gimmick

I agree with you on this I see no difference in picture when watching TV, in games the graphics are slightly better.

 

[Total LOLige]

Ok first of all I'm going to remind everyone that HD is just a big fucking gimmick

I agree with you on this I see no difference in picture when watching TV, in games the graphics are slightly better though

 

[conflictofinterests]

Yeah, fuck Nintendo. Not even Paper Mario is worth this shit.

 

[NerfedFalcon]

Super Mario Galaxy/2. Twilight Princess. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. Mario Kart Wii. How is it that you own a Wii and supported Nintendo for the last four generations, and yet you didn't buy any of their first-party games? Or is it that your nostalgia has grown into a semi-sentient parasitic being and is somehow preventing you from buying any Zelda game that isn't one from 13 years ago with clunky combat and the world's most annoying exposition dumps courtesy of two of the world's most annoying characters?

Heck, if you own a Wii and want good games, you should at least take the time to track down a copy of Okami!

 

[Mehall]

I absolutely hate Nintendo. Mainly because it's the largest, richest and oldest games developer in the world and they still can't think of a new game every 5 years or so, or even ten years. It's just a load of sameyness, dating all the way back to 1984

They released two new franchises in 2001, Animal Crossing and Pikmin, have frequently published small developers both in Japan and other territories, to allow them to try their own new franchises.

Also;

Endless Ocean (2007)
Chibi Robo (2005)

 

[Phlakes]

Yes it is. Like they said at E3, they care more about innovation than staying with the types of bars the other systems set. No matter what they're like now, motion controls have potential. If everyone stopped working on them now because they don't work perfectly, that potential will never be realized. People these days are so impatient. If something doesn't work exactly how they think it should, they think it should be dropped completely and developers should go back to what we've been doing for at least a decade.

Did people complain when graphics were four colors + transparency? Hell no. And now look at what we have.

 

[sms_117b]

I was never a Nintendo kinda guy (except Pokémon), SEGA all the way!

I can see you're point, Nintendo do try to do something different quite a lot, doesn't always work, but I don't think they've messed up consistently frequently enough for no-one to give them any money.

 

[Saltyk]

Hey, I haven't played on a Nintendo console since the Original Nes. I don't feel like I have missed a thing. Honestly, I didn't really care about any Nintendo games one way or the other this whole time. At least, not enough to buy their consoles just for those 2 or 3 games I was actually interested in.

And I was, and still am, openly hostile towards the Wii. I had no interest in motion controls. And from what I've seen Nintendo doesn't care about them either, anymore. Most of their games can be played without the motion controls and apparently play better that way. And the Wii U apparently dropped them from what I've heard.

Long story short, I don't care about Nintendo. But I don't think Nintendo cares about me either, so there's no love loss.
[sub]Wouldn't mind them porting a Zelda game to another console, though.[/sub]

Oh and as for Arkham City...I'll be playing it months earlier on my PS3 thanks Reggie.

This bugs me. Does Nintendo actually think anyone will buy their new console to play games like Arkham City and Dark Siders 2? Games that can be played on other systems, too. Systems that most people who would be interested in them already have. I'm sorry, but its just too little too late in my mind.

And the Wii U only supports one Wii U controller at a time? That literally ruins 90% of the games I could see the touch screen being useful for. It just reeks of desperate gimmick to me.
[sub]Though the PS3 Six-axis controller wasn't much better[/sub]

 

[emeraldrafael]

You could say that for any game. Microsoft/Sony fanboys will always say that they are better then the other and then the Wii, and PC boys will always say that they beat any console in graphics. the wii has its good games and it has its bad, and if nothing else, you have the whole GC catalog.

 

[starwarsgeek]

(insert Yathzee quote), ''in fact, you can be forgiven for saying:''There aren't any.''.'' Zelda and Mario don't seem to have undergone any changes despite maybe a slightly remodeling in HD, but that's it.

This picture sums up why I think complaints like that are total crap.

Spoiler

Obviously, the series will use similar core mechanics that evolve through the years, but Nintendo has made a serious effort to make sure the games have enough variety to stand out. Same goes for Mario, but I don't have a picture for that one.

Muramasa! Of course! Knew I was forgetting one!
And I don't think Overkill should make the list, but I would agree with you on the Resi games.

Fair enough. I mostly suggested it for the cut scenes, which I think are funny enough to make the game worthwhile, but not everyone is going to think that.

 

[starwarsgeek]

Oh and as for Arkham City...I'll be playing it months earlier on my PS3 thanks Reggie.

This bugs me. Does Nintendo actually think anyone will buy their new console to play games like Arkham City and Dark Siders 2? Games that can be played on other systems, too. Systems that most people who would be interested in them already have. I'm sorry, but its just too little too late in my mind.

And the Wii U only supports one Wii U controller at a time? That literally ruins 90% of the games I could see the touch screen being useful for. It just reeks of desperate gimmick to me.
[sub]Though the PS3 Six-axis controller wasn't much better[/sub]

Actually it's five, not one. It supports one Touch-screen controller and four wii-remotes. I'm really interested to see how this works out...the new controller opens up a lot possibilities, and motion controls are more of an "option" than ever...the majority of single-player games will use the new controller, and for multiplayer...well, it's safe to assume that just about anyone who likes the Wii but not its remote has a classic controller. It can't take too long to prepare for the classic, can it?

 

[Jazoni89]

Nintendo is a much different company, to the one I fell in love with years ago.

Now they are shadows of their former selves (kinda like Sega as well really), releasing old games (and charging full price for them), and relying on gimmicks to sell their products.

Watching Nintendo fail Is kinda like a car crash, utterly traumatic, but you can't help but watch it.

 

[ThePuzzldPirate]

For one, they have said that it can support more than one wii-u tablet, they are at the moment just looking at cost and hardware power. The console itself has to render two separate screens at once, without not taking a quality hit on the tablet, you aren't gonna see more than that.

And for the love of god, can we stop harping on Nintendo for not making new Ip's when the entire Industry is at fault for this. This is the equivalence of me asking you to quit your job and get a new one when your making 26-30$ bucks an hour because you have been doing it for years.

If you don't like what Nintendo offers for games, go buy from the other developers that will be making games for it.

 

[Leoofmoon]

Its there marketing department to mainly blame, they made a system with VARY little prosseing power and motion controles that didnt work.and with the new WiiU there clearly adandoning the Wii system. if project rainfall wants to move the games to a PS3 or xbox im sure they would make jsut as much money

 

[Toriver]

"HOW DARE NINTENDO TRY CHANGING SOMETHING BESIDES GRAPHICS! Graphics are EVERYTHING! I wanna see REALISTIC wood grain on that gray-brown crate I'm about to shoot in Gears of Halo: Medal of Duty so my gray-brown character can blow up those gray-brown enemies! I'll just go back to playing that, and God help them if they dare try to change anything in the next 20 years, or God forbid, make me MOVE something aside from my thumbs! And I won't dare play anything unless it's at least rated T!"

This (Theory: Yahtzee-influenced) crap is getting as old and stale as the games this kind of thinking produces. And before anyone blows up at me for picking on FPS, I can level similar claims against RPGs. No, Nintendo doesn't consistently make the most innovative software, but what company does? (And before you all say Valve, NO THEY DON'T. They're still mostly gray-brown shooters, but more "light-hearted" gray-brown shooters. And Portal alone doesn't save them in that.) At least Nintendo has a lot of variety in style in their software offerings, and more importantly, innovates in its hardware past just graphics in a way that actually impacts GAMES. I suppose I can credit MS for popularizing and streamlining online multiplayer on the console. But aside from graphics and technical stuff, what has Sony done with its Playstation hardware to actually innovate the way we play games? Seriously? I can't think of anything that hadn't already been implemented by someone else. The other console developers, especially Sony, (again, can't entirely fault MS for an original idea once in a blue moon with Live and Kinect) don't want to actually innovate gaming itself because then it takes away from the true focus they want to emphasize: that their machines are really entertainment centers or extra computers that just so happen to play games too. If they emphasize the games too much, it becomes "about" the games, not the other brands in their corporation that MS and Sony want to push on you. Nintendo has none of that baggage, and none of that to lose by pushing gameplay innovation. They're primarily a gaming company, so they have always put games first, not stuff like DVD players, MP3 music storage, streaming movies and TV, or any of that. And for all the Wii's faults (and it does have some of its own), I at least give Nintendo credit for having the balls to try new ways to play games, something MS and Sony have been playing catch-up with them on since they got into the business.

 

[Saltyk]

Oh and as for Arkham City...I'll be playing it months earlier on my PS3 thanks Reggie.

This bugs me. Does Nintendo actually think anyone will buy their new console to play games like Arkham City and Dark Siders 2? Games that can be played on other systems, too. Systems that most people who would be interested in them already have. I'm sorry, but its just too little too late in my mind.

And the Wii U only supports one Wii U controller at a time? That literally ruins 90% of the games I could see the touch screen being useful for. It just reeks of desperate gimmick to me.
[sub]Though the PS3 Six-axis controller wasn't much better[/sub]

Actually it's five, not one. It supports one Touch-screen controller and four wii-remotes. I'm really interested to see how this works out...the new controller opens up a lot possibilities, and motion controls are more of an "option" than ever...the majority of single-player games will use the new controller, and for multiplayer...well, it's safe to assume that just about anyone who likes the Wii but not its remote has a classic controller. It can't take too long to prepare for the classic, can it?

I'm quite well aware that it supports multiple wii-remotes and only one touchscreen. That was my point. The console doesn't support more than one of its "new and improved" controller model. It would be like if the PS2 only supported one dual shock controller.

And what possibilities do you see?
In a Zelda or Metroid type game, it would be a used to select items or weapons much more quickly without having to pause the game. Which would be pretty cool.
In a sports game, it could let you select a play without letting your opponent see them. Only your opponent would either have to use your controller or suck it up and select from the TV screen which seems to defeat the purpose.
In a Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles or Zelda Four Swords type of game, you could select items from your inventory without inconveniencing your friends. Only you can't, because the Nintendo completely overlooked allowing other players to use touchscreen controllers.
In Mario.... you could... honestly, I don't know. I'm sure Nintendo will come up with some gimmick for their flagship title to use the touchscreen.
In a Pokemon game, I'm sure it would be used to select pokemon, items and pokeballs.

The point I'm trying to make, is that the touchscreen would either be a slightly pointless, but nice, gimmick in most games. Or it is completely lost in any game where it could be really fun, like party games.

Sorry, I'm not trying to shit on something that you seem to be excited for. I just don't see it as much more than a gimmick at worst or something I don't have any interest in at best. To put it in perspective, I felt the same way about all motion controls (from the Sixaxis to the Wii and Kinect).