Nintendo President Says Competitors Must Respond to Wii U

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The WiiU will thrive of the same niche the wii was filling. It will print lots of money for them, "hardcore gamers" will likely be dissapointed.

The Wii had it's fair share of excellent games, but critics mostly focus on the shovelware and sequels. If the WiiU has at least that many good games i might consider buying it too.
 

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Nintendo's key advantage is still that the barrier to developing for their consoles, in pure money terms, are extremely low, and their lot-check (the internal testing department which makes sure games fulfill certain standards and don't break their console) arbitrary enough for an extremely lucky but insanely untalented and cheap developer to slip through somehow.
 

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Darmy647 said:
Extreme gaming PC. Now im buying a Wii U. Why? So i have everything. "what about the xbox and playstation console?" Who needs them? Superior PC.
Well, it could be that, you know, there are many great games on the 360 and PS3 that aren't on the PC or Wii U?
 

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Imagine if he'd come out and said this instead: "Hey guys! We released a buggy console with very few games and a gimmick that causes a lot of processor bottlenecking. We're pretty sure Sony and Microsoft are going to kick our asses this time!"

Do you want your company's American division president saying that? Uh, probably not.
Then maybe he should keep his mouth shut? Radical concept, I know, but this is kinda begging for ridicule.
 

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Yes, Nintendo's competitors must respond to their new and buggy console with no good games, tons of gimmicks, and severely outdated hardware.
It's like shooting yourself in the foot then saying "What're you going to do about it?" I'd take you to a hospital, Nintendo.
*Staggers down the street with half a foot.

"What you gonna do? Come at me bro."

Collapses.

"I think he's dying of blood loss."

"Should we take him to the hospital?"

"Nah, let him die."*

But seriously, this is moronic. You released first Nintendo. Big whoop. Your new innovation? Asymetric control systems in the form of yet another fucking gimmick disguised as innovation. You've got two screens? Big fucking whoop. I've got a television big enough to do that without a clumsy tablet warming my crotch. That's really nothing to be proud of, and there's good reason your stocks took a hit after you announced it. Sony and Microsoft will just release as they've already planned. Planning around your floundering corpse isn't going to stop them. The audience who you'll get with a gimmick, is not the same as the one who is happy just playing games, and the other consoles have the capability to offer better ones.

And, as many have pointed out: Congratulations Nintendo! You've just managed to be the first to the next generation... with the capabilities of the last generation, not overlong before the predicted release of your competitors consoles. Well done.

Reggie: "It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers."
Everyone else: "It's likely that more gimmicky gimmicks, and more excellently executed rehashes of classics, coupled with buggy shovelware, won't be enough to motivate customers."
 

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ProtonGuy said:
Bad mouthing Nintendo is like disrespecting your grandfather. It's rude, ungrateful and you wouldn't be where you are today without him. Remember Nintendo brought the industry back to life after it crashed in the early 80's.

I'm not saying you have to run out and prostrate yourselves at the foot of a Nintendo shrine, but you don't have to hate them just because they released a new system that you don't like. Your own opinion is very important, but it doesn't need to be hateful.

Sure it may be under-powered and a little buggy, but the games are fun and the controller is neat.
Then again, if your grandfather is a racist, homophobic, wife beating, abusive wanker who shows you no respect, but did the service of serving in World War 2, he doesn't get extra credit and consideration for that. You still notice the shit he's pulling.

It's a silly analogy. You can respect Nintendo for what they were, and to some extent, still are, and still despise the WiiU, or any other system.
 

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They did respond, 5 years ago when your "new" technology was current gen and not aging.

The Wii U doesn't have appeal, its going to flop.
 

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So with all of those sold out pre-order the new Wii U sold 200,000 less than the Wii in week one?

Yeah, this basically confirms that Nintendo is limiting the supply to create demand once again. There's no other reason for the sales to be one third less than its predecessor when they were touting sold out pre-orders so hard.
Yep. 475,000 [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120789-Nintendo-Shifts-400-000-Wii-Us-in-a-Week] - 400,000 = 200,000. Math sure looks like that.
Conflicts with this link kind of [link]http://www.flesheatingzipper.com/gaming/2012/11/wii-u-first-week-sales-on-the-light-side-down-33-from-wii-launch/[/link]

So either the Wii, on its 8th day after launch sold an additional 125,000 units (which would mean that 1 sixth of its launch sales came in the 8th day after launch, which would be odd), or one of the articles is wrong. Judging by the fact that your link goes to an Escapist article that throws the 475,000 Wii launch number out of nowhere (with the CNET link in that very article not mentioning that the Wii's launch sold 475,000 at all) I'd say that the 475,000 number is wrong considering there is no source for it for some reason.

So my point still stands.


EDIT:This link also shows that the original sales launch number of the Wii was 600,000 and not 475,000
[link]http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/26/wii-u-sells-400-000-units-in-first-week/[/link]
 

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They already have, with the current generation.

Welcome to the seventh generation Nintendo.
Exactly. Reggie's comments are a joke. The Wii U isnt something that Xbox and the PS3 have to respond to, because its honestly only a response to THEM.
 

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ProtonGuy said:
Bad mouthing Nintendo is like disrespecting your grandfather. It's rude, ungrateful and you wouldn't be where you are today without him. Remember Nintendo brought the industry back to life after it crashed in the early 80's.

I'm not saying you have to run out and prostrate yourselves at the foot of a Nintendo shrine, but you don't have to hate them just because they released a new system that you don't like. Your own opinion is very important, but it doesn't need to be hateful.

Sure it may be under-powered and a little buggy, but the games are fun and the controller is neat.
Thats all well and good, but when Reggie goes about trying to "call out" the other consoles, that changes the nature of things. What he is doing is akin to bringing a slingshot to a gunfight.
 

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Basically, these ports aren't telling us all that much at all, but note this: Even if they look slightly worse now, or run slightly worse, the 360 and PS3 versions can't mirror the freaking game inside of the controller or send UI elements to it. This is the hand they're dealing.
Why does it sound to me like you think that controller is some sort of a great innovation and improvement to the gaming experience?
I apologize, the emphasis was not to dictate my personal opinion on the controller, but rather a reminder that the controller itself (and what it's capable of doing) is what Nintendo believes will win out over graphical horsepower. Reggie's just doing his job, maybe it's because the Peters and Johns (heh heh) have cooled down with the calling out and shit throwing that it seems he's being outrageous and making ridiculous claims. I'm sure that when S&M finally release their Aces we'll see a full blown PR wrestling cage match.
 

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Uh, did you forget how markets and competition work Nintendo?
Just because you've played Pied Piper with your ridiculous stunt last time, doesn't mean Sony and Microsoft have to dance to your tune NOW. The Wii sold better because of its price point and new demographic, not because the "experience" you had to offer was worth a damn (and game-for-game, the Wii's experience was laughably awful compared to the PS2, let alone the 360 or PS3).

Unless you want me to bring up the Gamecube and how the PS2 knocked it off its candy ass, danced all over it and its tux before running off to shag its prom date.

It's not worth bragging about preorders selling out when you are obviously limiting supply.

Though I will give Nintendo some credit here: Both Sony and Microsoft stupidly bit the hook and produced the Kinect and Move and neither of those have taken gaming by storm. Maybe you're right; maybe the execs at Sony and M$ are braindamaged enough to follow your gimmicky lead again.

The Lunatic said:
They already have, with the current generation.

Welcome to the seventh generation Nintendo.
Took the words out of my mouth.
(cool new avatar pic, BTW)
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
So with all of those sold out pre-order the new Wii U sold 200,000 less than the Wii in week one?

Yeah, this basically confirms that Nintendo is limiting the supply to create demand once again. There's no other reason for the sales to be one third less than its predecessor when they were touting sold out pre-orders so hard.
Yes, but only in the U.S. The console hasn't launched anywhere else as far as I know. So maybe they can brag a bit about that.

I think Reggie is just taking a jab at microsoft and sony for introducing their motion control schemes (kinect and move) even thought they had both mocked motion controls when the Wii was announced. Reggie is basically saying "I hope you can get to give the player something more than just an system upgrade, it would be a shame if your next consoles got to use dual screens attachment"

And with that, the console wars are once again on the horizon.
 

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Marshall Honorof said:
Nintendo President Says Competitors Must Respond to Wii U


Sony and Microsoft have to match the Wii U's appeal, according to Nintendo.

After moving 400,000 [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120789-Nintendo-Shifts-400-000-Wii-Us-in-a-Week] units in one week, Reggie Fils-Aime, president of Nintendo of America, is pretty optimistic about the Wii U's long-term prospects. Fils-Aime is so confident, in fact, that he's issued a challenge to competitors Sony and Microsoft: this time, you'll respond to us. While the original Wii was the last one released in the console wars of the last generation, the Wii U has spearheaded console gaming's next generation, and Fils-Aime stands behind its early launch.

Fils-Aime has some harsh words for Sony and Microsoft regarding their next consoles, which will likely be more traditional than Nintendo's Wii U. "In the end, our competitors need to react to what we're doing in the marketplace and need to figure out what their innovation will be," says Fils-Aime. "It's likely that faster processors and pretty pictures won't be enough to motivate consumers." The Nintendo president believes that one of the Wii U's primary selling points is its unique control scheme, and that Sony and Microsoft will have to offer something of similar distinctiveness to deliver a worthy next-gen experience.

While the Wii U has launched far ahead of the purported Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4, Fils-Aime does not believe that the difference in release windows will hamper Nintendo's system. "For us, launching new systems is about bringing new consumer experiences to the marketplace and we're doing that," he explains, and believes that all the technology is already in place for a new system launch. "[Now] is the right time to launch new hardware."

The Wii U more or less has a monopoly on next-gen consoles for the time being, but Microsoft and Sony are sure to respond in kind, and perhaps with more ambitious plans than just increased specs for their consoles. Now is as good a time as any for Nintendo to play offense, but with the forthcoming introduction of two new consoles, the landscape could change very rapidly.

Source: CNET [http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57554148-235/nintendos-fils-aime-microsoft-sony-need-to-react-to-us/]

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Just look at this guy, what a stupid gorrila man. They should respond to EACH OTHER, not to the people who failed to make a console when they released the GameCube and have since re-released minor tweaks in the form of what they call 'a new console'.

What serious wankers, the PS4/Orbis and the 720/whatever will be competing with each other, but there's no serious console gamer out there that will go 'oh, well I had a 360, bought a WiiU, so now I won't consider a 720 or PS4' - There might be about one person, out of millions of people, who would do that. But I still think it's unlikely.