Don't blame Team Ninja, Nintendo is the one who had mapped out Samus' personality and the plot.Ahlycks said:
Nintendo Puzzled Over Other M's Poor Performance
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Also, in response to the official manga, I don't think those can nor should count, ever.
So what if they're 'official', Samus' character was being designed into gamers minds way before they were invented.
Hell, I have official Zelda manga, but when do you ever see Link's Apple Orchard in the games?
Not to mention, most people didn't read these manga, they played the games and got use to Samus from the games. Not some manga tossed out with 'official' labeled on it.
Hell, when do you see an Arbok's head seperated from its body, then regenerate the body in the games? Yet according to the official Pokemon manga I've got, it can regenerate body parts.
And also, The Elite Four are all evil and want to kill off humanity for a Pokemon paradise.
Yet I still haven't seen Lance do that in the games.
So what if they're 'official', Samus' character was being designed into gamers minds way before they were invented.
Hell, I have official Zelda manga, but when do you ever see Link's Apple Orchard in the games?
Not to mention, most people didn't read these manga, they played the games and got use to Samus from the games. Not some manga tossed out with 'official' labeled on it.
Hell, when do you see an Arbok's head seperated from its body, then regenerate the body in the games? Yet according to the official Pokemon manga I've got, it can regenerate body parts.
And also, The Elite Four are all evil and want to kill off humanity for a Pokemon paradise.
Yet I still haven't seen Lance do that in the games.
Technically it doesn't introduce that plot hole.Grygor said:
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At the end of the game Adam jettisons the Tourain Sector, destroying any Metroids in it. Later, after killing Phantoon, -- Which, by the way, came completely out of nowhere for me. I mean, PHANTOON!? -- and retrieving Adam's helmet from the command deck, the Bottle ship begins to self destruct, destroying any Metroids that may be left. It's explained in the story that they're trying to cover up what they did by sending in an "Eraser" to kill anyone who might spread word, and all the data relating to the MB project. By the end of the game, that particular plot-line is closed, by the report from the head researcher at the facility, and the correlating reports from both Samus and Anthony. So it's completely plausible from Samus to be surprised by the breeding of Metroids by BSL, because by that time, to her knowledge, all data relating to the Bottle Ship incident had be destroyed, save for the last DNA of the Baby metroid.
"Another difficulty with the scene is that, even if we go into it knowing that Samus is supposed to have been emotionally scarred by Ridley as a child, by this point in her life she?s already killed the beast several times (at least twice, in the original Metroid and in Super Metroid; twice more if you include the ambiguously-canonical Metroid Prime trilogy). Even the manga has her overcoming her childhood trauma by this point in her life."
lmao Wow, that sure puts a hole in the "manga" defense.
lmao Wow, that sure puts a hole in the "manga" defense.
From the videos i watched, it looks remarkably 'stiff', bland and just plain 'old'. I don't want to get into the characterization of Samus and that sort of stuff because i've obviously not played it, im speaking from the perspective of someone who didn't buy it (and i don't own a Wii, but that's besides the point, i wouldn't buy it anyway).
10BIT said:
Wow, just wow. That is one messed up 'relationship', even shooting her in the back and almost killing her to the fact that Samus is sooo obessed with him, she's become so obedient that she only acts independent when she thinks he can't hear her.
I guess it's either because it's a hardcore game on a platform dominated by family friendly casual games, or because it isn't a Mario game.
Former, and sort of current, commanding officer in the Galactic Federation Army.Gralian said:
I'd re-post my problems with Other M from Kotaku, if not for Kotaku mysteriously rejecting my comments. But I will say that waiting for permission to activate weapons makes sense, but needing permission to activate purely defensive abilities does not.
"This is the bounty huntress who laid low the Mother Brain and destroyed Zebes. This is the woman who ventured alone into the caverns of SR-388 and exterminated the feral metroid bioweapons. This is one of the the first and most enduring heroines of gaming, an icon for female gamers. After all these years, it turns out that Samus Aran is a battered housewife who takes it and likes it. This is the way in which Yoshio Sakamoto chose to ?correct? the popular conception of Samus Aran."
Wow. After reading that, he's right. Either Sakamoto sucks at writing stories, or is sexist.
Wow. After reading that, he's right. Either Sakamoto sucks at writing stories, or is sexist.
JediMB said:
It does if you see that Samus is blindly loyal to Adam.
And if you note that Adam is a cold, bitter man and doesn't want her to ever disobey even once.
JediMB said:
If it isn't, then Sakamoto needs to stop writing stories, as he's very bad at it.
Who honestly can say they'd shoot someone they 'care' about in the back with the chance of killing them, to stop them from going forward, rather then shouting at them to stop when your in close enough range for them to hear you and up 'till now, they've followed every order you ever made, wether they had to or not, even ones they didn't want to.
Team Ninja fucked it right up the butt on this one. Instead of developing a game like the Metroid Prime series. (That is to say, a long and refreshing action/puzzle/platformer with appropriately epic boss fights.) They decided to make a bland, boring platformer. They also proved to me why having full voice acting in a Metroid game is stupid. It sucks. The whole point of the Metroid series is that you are all alone, traversing a planet with just your gun, and about 10,000 things that want to eat you.
Sadly, it sounds like we can expect his 'story' telling to appear in the next Metroid game.JediMB said:
Wich seems like a real shame as this story felt like he didn't know what he was doing with the characters, and didn't know how to show what he wanted in story, let alone parts of his story didn't mesh with the gameplay.
Maybe Nintendo should~ I dunno... READ THE REACTIONS THE FANS MAKE. 
Fils Aime said it himself: "I read the blogs and the forum posts." Why don't you watch the reviews? Why don't you read about this one?
Metroid Fans are actually fan of just one game: Super Metroid. Some are so stubborn that they don't want to give Metroid Fusion a try because it's not the same. (well, it was short, but had the same feel.) I saw what they did in Other M, adding bosses of other Metroid games (I recognised Nightmare so easily.)
Nothing has beaten the gameplay and feel of Super Metroid. Nintendo tries to be hyper realistic with their shiny new graphics. Seeing Samus without her suit was a reward (a shallow reward) but now it's just fanservice.
I think Metroid is dying like Sonic is. 3D just doesn't cut it. New gimmicks are just ruining the play. New stories are churned out even though it's rehashed. Where did it go wrong?
Fils Aime said it himself: "I read the blogs and the forum posts." Why don't you watch the reviews? Why don't you read about this one?
Metroid Fans are actually fan of just one game: Super Metroid. Some are so stubborn that they don't want to give Metroid Fusion a try because it's not the same. (well, it was short, but had the same feel.) I saw what they did in Other M, adding bosses of other Metroid games (I recognised Nightmare so easily.)
Nothing has beaten the gameplay and feel of Super Metroid. Nintendo tries to be hyper realistic with their shiny new graphics. Seeing Samus without her suit was a reward (a shallow reward) but now it's just fanservice.
I think Metroid is dying like Sonic is. 3D just doesn't cut it. New gimmicks are just ruining the play. New stories are churned out even though it's rehashed. Where did it go wrong?
'What's past....is prologue.' I blame that line in the horrible commercial for the lack of sales. Also a teen game on Wii and Samus's ass hanging out doesn't help either.
So what people disliked the most was the story and Samus' characterization. What was featured most heavily in commercials for the game? The story and Samus' characterization.
What did people dislike about Metroid Fusion? Adam and his unending monologues. Some would say it's also partly because the pace is slow in the beginning with very little exploration available, but to be fair the same thing applied to Super Metroid. It only feels way more constrained because even very short sections in the beginning are broken up by long text feeds from Adam.
When this Reggie character is done with his ostrich impression, let us know.
What did people dislike about Metroid Fusion? Adam and his unending monologues. Some would say it's also partly because the pace is slow in the beginning with very little exploration available, but to be fair the same thing applied to Super Metroid. It only feels way more constrained because even very short sections in the beginning are broken up by long text feeds from Adam.
When this Reggie character is done with his ostrich impression, let us know.
Hey Nintendo, GET OVER YOURSELF! not every game you develop is gold even if you think they are the greatest things since slice bread. You fucked up. You thought more ppl cared about Metroid than there actually was.
move along and release another Zelda or Mario game already. Or dig up corpses like Donkey Kong or Kirby. Not like your any good at coming up with NEW IPs anyways (at least any that are any good.)
move along and release another Zelda or Mario game already. Or dig up corpses like Donkey Kong or Kirby. Not like your any good at coming up with NEW IPs anyways (at least any that are any good.)