therandombear said:"The programme contains two elements:
1.Beginning Sept. 1st, Nintendo 3DS Ambassadors will be able to download 10 NES? Virtual Console? games at no charge and before they are available in Nintendo eShop for the general public. These games, including Super Mario Bros.?, Donkey Kong Jr.?, Balloon Fight?, Ice Climber? and The Legend of Zelda?, will be released as paid downloadable games, but Ambassadors can download them in advance of launch for free. Once the paid versions of the games are released in Nintendo eShop later in the year, the updated versions will be available to Ambassadors for download at no cost.
2. By the end of 2011, Nintendo will provide Ambassadors with 10 Game Boy Advance Virtual Console games. These include games like Yoshi?s Island?: Super Mario? Advance 3, Mario Kart?: Super Circuit, Metroid? Fusion, WarioWare?, Inc.: Minigame Mania and Mario vs. Donkey Kong?. These games will be available exclusively to Ambassadors, and Nintendo currently has no plans to make these 10 games available to the general public on Nintendo 3DS in the future."
From Nintendo of Europe's site.
I'm starting to find "rehash" to be the most overused word when describing Nintendo(no matter how true it is), because guess what? Every game company relies on brand recognition to some extent. Especially Activision(I know everybody hates them but...), if isn't a new CoD or MW game than no one will give two shits about it. I agree with the part about a new name and design. But the WiiU is clearly a new console, consoles don't get different models like handhelds, I mean, did you really see a WiiXL, WiiLite or Wii250 gig?Monoochrom said:So..fail Nintendo?
3DS...that sounds rather familiar...oh yeah you have the DS thing too...oh and they look almost exactly the same...and your main selling point is something that cannot be shown in Advertisments...and it's a Eye-Strain...and it is a gimmick that would have to be meaningfully implemented into a Game to give it any worth beyond that of a pure novelty feature...and your game lineup sucks...and those Games that are coming are pretty much warmed up leftovers of known classics and rehashes of the same games you've been making for around 20 years...nope, just as clueless as you are as to why customers seem disinterested.
Maybe, just maybe, you should have tried a new Design and new Name? You know, give people that aren't totally in the know when it comes to gaming any reason to believe this is something completly different then the difference between a DS and a DSLite?
Oh crap, you're pulling the same shit with your next home console...except what people will see there are Ports of Games that have already been out for ages on the other consoles, then those will get their follow-ups and the WiiU will be exactly where the Wii is...shitty Gamesville.
See Nintendo, I know full well why I jumped ship after the N64. You got lucky with the Wii, now it looks like you decided you wanted to do a few more Gamecube caliber things...hey, thats cool with me, maybe I'll see a Mario Game on another Console in the next decade when you go the way of Sega.
Sounds like that, but that sounds silly. I have no idea.pluizig said:therandombear said:"The programme contains two elements:
1.Beginning Sept. 1st, Nintendo 3DS Ambassadors will be able to download 10 NES? Virtual Console? games at no charge and before they are available in Nintendo eShop for the general public. These games, including Super Mario Bros.?, Donkey Kong Jr.?, Balloon Fight?, Ice Climber? and The Legend of Zelda?, will be released as paid downloadable games, but Ambassadors can download them in advance of launch for free. Once the paid versions of the games are released in Nintendo eShop later in the year, the updated versions will be available to Ambassadors for download at no cost.
2. By the end of 2011, Nintendo will provide Ambassadors with 10 Game Boy Advance Virtual Console games. These include games like Yoshi?s Island?: Super Mario? Advance 3, Mario Kart?: Super Circuit, Metroid? Fusion, WarioWare?, Inc.: Minigame Mania and Mario vs. Donkey Kong?. These games will be available exclusively to Ambassadors, and Nintendo currently has no plans to make these 10 games available to the general public on Nintendo 3DS in the future."
From Nintendo of Europe's site.
What does the bolded part mean? We can download them before they are available, and once the paid versions are in the eShop, we van download the 'updated versions'? Does this mean the earlier free downloads aren't the full product?
I hadn't considered this part of the argument (mostly because I was just about to go to sleep when I typed that. Thanks for bringing this up. The reason I described this move as underhanded is mostly because I (and anyone else who bought/buys a 3DS) have lost 80 bucks to Ninty. Sure, we're getting money back with the games, but the question is "Would I have bought those games without this promotion?" Since some people are bound to answer no, that's extra money for Ninty.subtlefuge said:I think it has more to do with all of the developers jumping ship than just making a quick buck. Nintendo wants long term sales on the console and the games, and if not enough people buy the console, nobody will want to make games for it.Raeil said:This was a brilliant and underhanded move by Nintendo. I'm ok with it, because I think the 20 games will be worth the 80 extra bucks I spent on the system. However, it still must be mentioned that this was an extremely underhanded move to make more money, and I'm not sure how well it speaks to the image that Nintendo likes to maintain.
See: Dreamcast
Just that none of the games available for download are worth anything to me, because I don't want them.ProfessorLayton said:What else were they supposed to do? It's the easiest way to distribute games with assurance that they bought their 3DS before the deadline and it makes sure no one is taking advantage of them.Baneat said:Twenty downloadable games? ugh.. downloadable..
I happen to really like this idea. I bought a 3DS day one and was kind of upset when I heard the price was going down so much, but 20 free games is kind of a lot. At least they actually care about us enough to give us some free games, but now they've made it obvious to people who weren't already aware that they just need the money. Either way, I'm excited to see what games make it on the list.
Starfox 64 - Re-release... that should have happened on a console rather than a game boy...[sub]Or at least more Starfox attention when I bought your bloody Gamecube. *grumble*[/sub]Logan Westbrook said:...even going as far as to say that it had the strongest lineup of any videogame console this holiday season. These games include the 3DS re-release of Starfox 64, and new Mario, Mario Kart and Kid Icarus games.
The earlier downloads are the full game as it was when it was first released. The updated ones will be the 3d classics version that will be released later on (like excitebike)pluizig said:therandombear said:"The programme contains two elements:
1.Beginning Sept. 1st, Nintendo 3DS Ambassadors will be able to download 10 NES? Virtual Console? games at no charge and before they are available in Nintendo eShop for the general public. These games, including Super Mario Bros.?, Donkey Kong Jr.?, Balloon Fight?, Ice Climber? and The Legend of Zelda?, will be released as paid downloadable games, but Ambassadors can download them in advance of launch for free. Once the paid versions of the games are released in Nintendo eShop later in the year, the updated versions will be available to Ambassadors for download at no cost.
2. By the end of 2011, Nintendo will provide Ambassadors with 10 Game Boy Advance Virtual Console games. These include games like Yoshi?s Island?: Super Mario? Advance 3, Mario Kart?: Super Circuit, Metroid? Fusion, WarioWare?, Inc.: Minigame Mania and Mario vs. Donkey Kong?. These games will be available exclusively to Ambassadors, and Nintendo currently has no plans to make these 10 games available to the general public on Nintendo 3DS in the future."
From Nintendo of Europe's site.
What does the bolded part mean? We can download them before they are available, and once the paid versions are in the eShop, we van download the 'updated versions'? Does this mean the earlier free downloads aren't the full product?
Wii new Nintendo owned IPSelectivelyEvil13 said:I won't joke about "where are the games that aren't an established franchise, because by now that seems implicit, yet completely unnegotiable.![]()