Nintendo "Troubled" by Gamers' Demand For Content

[Meight08]

Stop. rereleasing. your old. IP.

Whilst I enjoy Pokemon White and Super Mario 3D land, and am considering getting the OOT 3D version, I'd really like to see the big N release something that isn't the same shit getting cranked out again. Harvest Moon, Star Fox, Paper Mario (this one kind of makes sense), Kingdom hearts, etc, HAVE ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE -_-

If they release different stuff people ask where mario and zelda are.
If they release mario and zelda people ask where different stuff is.
Do you see the problem?
People keep asking for mario and zelda why should they stop giving people what they want?

 

[ResonanceSD]

Stop. rereleasing. your old. IP.

Whilst I enjoy Pokemon White and Super Mario 3D land, and am considering getting the OOT 3D version, I'd really like to see the big N release something that isn't the same shit getting cranked out again. Harvest Moon, Star Fox, Paper Mario (this one kind of makes sense), Kingdom hearts, etc, HAVE ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE -_-

If they release different stuff people ask where mario and zelda are.
If they release mario and zelda people ask where different stuff is.
Do you see the problem?
People keep asking for mario and zelda why should they stop giving people what they want?

Because that's all that's been fucking released for the 3DS. Make them. ALSO MAKE OTHER GAMES.

 

[itsmeyouidiot]

Gonna have to agree with Reggie here.

Pikmin 3, Project P-100, and ZombiU, I'm actually pretty excited. The Wii U will also be my first chance to play Arkham City or Mass Effect, so that's also something cool.

I've never played Skyrim. I've never played Bioshock, or Assasin's Creed, or Grand Theft Auto IV, or Fallout 3, or Borderlands, or any of those. I've only ever played on an HD console at a friends house, and it's usually Halo or whatever arcade games he has on his hard drive.

People say that the Wii has no good games, but the honest truth is that they just don't look for them. Exitebots, Little King's Story, de Blob, Muramasa: the Demon Blade, Red Steel II, Sin and Punishment II, etc. have all kept me busy for quite a while.

I can't afford to buy a new game more than once every three months, two if I'm lucky. Sometimes I can't buy a game at all, so instead I have to replay some of my old ones.

I'm perfectly fine with not having 10 different AAA titles on launch. I'll never be sympathetic towards people who complain about not having enough games.

 

[Rouzeki]

Reggie? work to meet said demands as best as you can...

And someone PLEASE translate the Mother series! theres a lot of niche factors Nintendos fanbase likes that we have to flip over the world to get. you'd have a lot more of my money if y'sent that along... oh well, *cuddles upcoming kirby retrospective game*

..incidentally, anyone else tired of the 20 minute nintendo direct commercials coming up on youtube? someone please tell whoever plans what commercials go up where to just... put the trailer there...

 

[Evil Smurf]

I think Yatzee said once "you can never please fans" or something like that.

 

[Kennetic]

The thing that pisses me off about Nintendo of America is that there are games that get English translations for Europe but the US is left out. Wtf all you have to do is ship the damn games since you've already translated them

 

[Deviluk]

If E3 was overloaded with games that were to come out, we wouldn't want more. Most years when Oct/Nov come around, people have to pick a couple from a bunch of games they want. However, if Nintendo say just Pikmin...well thats great but, how about something else this year as well? Could we push you for 2 big games this year? If I'm a nintendo fan, I'm going to want my Nintendo console to satisfy me most of the year, not just for a month.

 

[Eve Charm]

Sorry nintendo but that's been your thing for the last well every console since the snes and handhelds since gameboy. You sit there and ask " what can we release for a new console? " and ever year it's been " alright first another mario, followed by a new zelda somewhere, then kirby" and so on and so on. Maybe you'll make a new character and ip once a console, and ya we'll want to see that character come back for another run if it was good ((note you didn't come up with anyone really on the wii))

Also you already dug your hole since last year's e3 showing us a new mario, telling us about a new smash, drawing link all over your wii u pad. and yes while zombi u and scribblenaunts can be new icing on the cake, you got a lot of games you still have to make to make that cake nice and plump.

I really don't think your going to get people to just fall for the new way to play the same games again with your 3rd party software support like for darksiders 2 or rayman, games gamers will have played beat and finished before the wii u even comes out.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

Yeah I think I agree with him.

Max Payne 3? That's nice but why isn't it longer and bigger and better?

Skyrim? Yeah it's like the biggest game ever made but why couldn't it be connected to the whole of the rest of the Elder Scrolls worlds?

Mass Effect 3? I'm not even touching this one.

Gamers get given so much. I got Batman Arkham City and Skyrim in December. I haven't needed to buy a game since. Partly that has been because I've been stuck in Ireland for 6 months, but from the little I've played of both, I think I'd probably still be playing Skyrim. Fallout 3 can take me months to finish, ditto for the Mass Effect games. Even the LEGO games take forever to get 100% completion.

And what do gamers do? 'I finished Skyrim in 110 hours, where's my new game just as big and involving and good?'

Maybe once in a while we should enjoy the fact that we get so much media released, and so much of it lasts so much longer than movies. I buy a new DVD for £12.99 and I get 90 minutes of content, maybe some special features. I buy a new game for only £20 more and I get hundreds of hours of content that I control (to a certain degree)

I'd never complain about not getting enough stuff, but sometimes it's all I see people talking about 'when's new stuff coming?'

 

[Micah Weil]

Huh...people want CONTENT. Who would have thought it?

 

[saintdane05]

Yeah we asked for Pikmin... the last one was released in 2004. I understand AAA's can take awhile but in that time Nintendo released 15+ games with Mario in the title. I know Mario gets around and he's their big star but... I want Pikmin... NOOOOOOOAAAAAAWWWWWW!!!

Bring on the Rock-min!!!

How many of those Mario games, however, were part of the "Main series" I.E 2-d or 3d platformers?

 

[MailOrderClone]

I would point him in the general direction of games like Littlebigplanet and the new expansion for Portal 2 and explain that these are games that allow players to create their own added content and share it with one another. Jam a level creation and sharing option into the next New Super Mario Bros game, and you've got a leg up on the competition right then and there.

 

[Callate]

On one hand, a lot of companies would be unreservedly thrilled to have customers demanding more of their "content".

On the other, Nintendo wouldn't have the "problem" of being solely responsible for creating most of the titles their customers actually want to play if they'd done more to create a friendly atmosphere for third party software. Hopefully they'll do better in that regard in the Wii-U generation.

 

[PunkRex]

Yeah we asked for Pikmin... the last one was released in 2004. I understand AAA's can take awhile but in that time Nintendo released 15+ games with Mario in the title. I know Mario gets around and he's their big star but... I want Pikmin... NOOOOOOOAAAAAAWWWWWW!!!

Bring on the Rock-min!!!

How many of those Mario games, however, were part of the "Main series" I.E 2-d or 3d platformers?

Oh I thaught I recognised your name Miku pony.

Its for those reasons I said that he gets around but I still counted about 4-5 and thats 4-5 more then Pikmin so meeeh.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

Nintendo
Dying since 1996.

I cut out the rest for space, but I agree with what you said. It's not the people who are asking for stuff at all that's the issue. It's that people demand stuff, Nintendo makes it, and then people complain about making X instead of Y. When they make Y, they get complaints about not making X. Nintendo can't seem to win.

I.E., gamers keep moving the goalposts. Like at E3 when Nintendo showed off the Wii U, new Mario titles, Project P-100, Pikmin 3, and a ton of 3rd party content and then piss and moan going "Where's Star Fox, where's F-Zero, where's Metroid, where's Zelda, where are new IPs, where's etc?!?" I'm sorry, did you REALLY expect all that? Were those guys HIGH when they set their expectations for Nintendo? The bar people set for Nintendo is so ridiculous it's become irritating.

 

[Zydrate]

People want stuff in their games? How dare they!

 

[StriderShinryu]

Eh.. the issue here is that just because something is a phenomenon there's no guarantee it's actually good or satisfying, especially to it's dedicated fans. Justin Bieber? You could certainly call him a phenomenon based on sales but is his output actually satisfying for music fans? Not really. Same thing goes for the Transformers movies. They are unquetionably phenomenal money makers, but they are not good movies and are not really satisfying to long terms fans of the franchise.

When those who have been fans of Nintendo say they want more, it's not just because they are insatiable, it's also because they want more of that uniquely Nintendo quality experience. That finely crafted feel you still really can't get anywhere else. They don't want reruns and retreads of games they've already played 20 years ago, and they don't really want gimmicky cash grabs.

 

[BehattedWanderer]

"I would argue that the gaming community actually is unable to differentiate between a phenomenon and something that is 'ho-hum... Until they play it," he said. "Until they experience it. Until their friends and their non-gaming associates say, 'Hey, have you seen X?'"

These are not people I take game buying advice from, not counting the apparent sub-group of friends that are gamers. Minecraft was both a game and a phenomenon. Guitar Hero and Rock Band were both games and phenomena, because everyone and their mother wanted to play these things, and have fun with them, and get better at them, so that they could play more. Wii Sports was a phenomena, but it was barely a game. When you put out Super Mario Galaxy, that was a game we absolutely wanted, but wasn't exactly a phenomenon. New Super Mario Bros is fine and all, but Mario's had enough spotlight for a minute, let one of the other cast have some stage time. Skyward Sword just came out, fair enough, but giving us Starfox as a cameo in your weird-looking festival game is not what we want. We want games first, and phenomena second, Reggie.

Of course, we are humans, and humans want. We don't want to have our gifts before Christmas, we like waiting for it, so that expectation and desire build up. We always want more. Of course, you could always pull some of your heavy hitters out of the closet to help launch a new platform, instead of these gimmicky throw away titles, a few ports, and one or two mild-interest titles.

 

[FantomOmega]

If E3 was overloaded with games that were to come out, we wouldn't want more. Most years when Oct/Nov come around, people have to pick a couple from a bunch of games they want. However, if Nintendo say just Pikmin...well thats great but, how about something else this year as well? Could we push you for 2 big games this year? If I'm a nintendo fan, I'm going to want my Nintendo console to satisfy me most of the year, not just for a month.

The whole fact that there's no actual roster of "completed" games planned for the Wii U (that is speculated to be released this October) proves how hasty Nintendo was in creating the Wii U to gather the "core" gaming audience after the casual side went flat. They haven't said "anything" about supporting the Wii and just assume that everyone will "move over" to the Wii U since all new games don't look like they can play on the wii

Notice how they think releasing a brand new console with nary a game and struggling to even get TWO games made internally at the same time forcing them to outsource plus putting the games (correction SINGLE GAME) that Nintendo fans have wanted for years and thought was forgotten by Nintendo suddenly gets revived since fans will buy the Wii U, no questions asked about what the future will hold for other rehash of titles a year from its release besides Zombu and 3rd party ports along with re-releases of Nintendo classics, a tactic they pulled for the 3DS when they had to do a price cut.

If meeting gamer expectations were easy then Sony and Microsoft wouldn't have to invest so MUCH time and money to get where they are today, they have fumbled in some titles and services in the past but they have learned from (*some) their mistakes and have refined their ability to satisfy the core gamers (even though Microsoft was pretty flat this E3, but yours was WORSE)

Sony have shown that they can define their console not just on "exclusive DLC content" or timed releases like Microsoft but on original IPs that have no fanbase what-so ever yet gets people excited to play like when Uncharted or Little Big Planet one was first released and now with The Last of Us being shown this E3, Nintendo Land feels halfassed in comparison.

Fans will sympathize with you Reggie but hardcore gamers will scoff at the mere fact that you are WHINING at why we gamers expect great things and will have this "I'll believe it when I see it attitude" towards the Wii U

Bring your A-game Nintendo, or get your asses kicked, YOU decided to come to the hardcore gamers that have spited you for abandoning them for years, NOT the other-way around!

 

[Denamic]

Really?
Complaining that there's too much demand for your products?
I can't even think of a first world problem joke that's more ridiculous than that.