Nintendo Will "Never" Develop For Other Platforms, Says Iwata

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

The smart thing to do would be to license out ONE game in each franchise to other consoles, to get a few people hooked on it, then to release the next game just on their own console so that if people wanted to play the next installment they had to buy a nintendo console.

you bastard....

then again, square enix did that with kingdom hearts, FUCKING ANNOYING AS HELL. I don't know a single person in real life who has played all the games due to this reason, especially when the stories connect in a closely related timeline sequel/prequel style.

 

[Aiddon_v1legacy]

I'm sorry, how is Nintendo doing bad? Yeah, their console launch is horrible but THEY'RE STILL POSTING A PROFIT! They have $6 BILLION dollars in the bank! Not stock. Bank! Why are people screaming that this company is on its dying throes? If Nintendo is dying then Sony and Microsoft are bleached bones in the sand. Like, there is a lot wrong with the Wii U launch line up but can we please just stop with the nonsense!

Yeah, especially since MS didn't post a single profit from their gaming division until EXTREMELY recently (if even that) and Sony burnt all the money it made with the PS1 and 2 due to the PS3's manifold mistakes. It's amazing at how badly those two can screw up and yet THEY'RE giving an infinite number of continues.

 

[WeepingAngels]

So where are all the people calling for Uncharted 3D (LOL, the 3DS would choke) since the Vita is doing poorly too?

 

[RJ 17]

Angry Snip.

I said the console was doing bad, which you agreed to. I never said the company was doing bad.

Snip.

"Winners" of console wars are determined by units shipped, not necessarily how much money was made. If you ship more units, the game library will make up for any losses the console itself made. If you failed to sell your console, you "lost" that generation's war.

But it's like I told Segaposto: I've got nothing against Nintendo. I just wish I didn't have to buy one of their sub-quality consoles to play their games. Well, I guess calling their console "sub-quality" is having something against them...but the facts are the facts: the hardware of the WiiU just isn't that great.

 

[WeepingAngels]

Angry Snip.

I said the console was doing bad, which you agreed to. I never said the company was doing bad.

Snip.

"Winners" of console wars are determined by units shipped, not necessarily how much money was made. If you ship more units, the game library will make up for any losses the console itself made. If you failed to sell your console, you "lost" that generation's war.

But it's like I told Segaposto: I've got nothing against Nintendo. I just wish I didn't have to buy one of their sub-quality consoles to play their games. Well, I guess calling their console "sub-quality" is having something against them...but the facts are the facts: the hardware of the WiiU just isn't that great.

Well, based on the number of consoles sold, someone should be calling for either Sony or Microsoft to shop out their exclusives this gen. Have you heard of that happening?

 

[xaszatm]

So where are all the people calling for Uncharted 3D (LOL, the 3DS would choke) since the Vita is doing poorly too?

Well...it's not the 3DS but...

Spoiler

will be coming to phone markets everywhere...

Angry Snip.

I said the console was doing bad, which you agreed to. I never said the company was doing bad.

Sorry, I'm just so sick of hearing that phrase that I snapped. I apologize for my wording.

 

[WeepingAngels]

So where are all the people calling for Uncharted 3D (LOL, the 3DS would choke) since the Vita is doing poorly too?

Well...it's not the 3DS but...

Spoiler

will be coming to phone markets everywhere...

This is sad, I didn't know about this.

 

[RJ 17]

Angry Snip.

I said the console was doing bad, which you agreed to. I never said the company was doing bad.

Snip.

"Winners" of console wars are determined by units shipped, not necessarily how much money was made. If you ship more units, the game library will make up for any losses the console itself made. If you failed to sell your console, you "lost" that generation's war.

But it's like I told Segaposto: I've got nothing against Nintendo. I just wish I didn't have to buy one of their sub-quality consoles to play their games. Well, I guess calling their console "sub-quality" is having something against them...but the facts are the facts: the hardware of the WiiU just isn't that great.

Well, based on the number of consoles sold, someone should be calling for either Sony or Microsoft to shop out their exclusives this gen. Have you heard of that happening?

Look, I didn't intend on starting a fight over this, and I don't have the energy (or care, really) to go on with it. So besides the point that the PS3 and 360 sold plenty enough consoles to merit their existence, I'll close out my part of this conversation by simply saying that I don't like the concept of exclusives in the first place. I think all games should be out on all consoles, as I believe that would lead to true innovation in console technology in order to make your console stand out from the rest rather than the only difference being what games are in the libraries.

So there, you've now officially heard one person call for Sony and Microsoft to shop out their exclusives.

 

[The_Echo]

It's not really this in particular, but just the general way Nintendo's been doing its business since Iwata took control that gives me some real foreboding feelings about how he's going to run the company in the future.

On this in particular: It's one thing to say "Mario will never be on Xbox." It's something completely different to say "Nintendo will never develop for other platforms."

While yes, I do understand Nintendo has their own platforms to support with their own development... y'know, reaching out to other markets can't really hurt.

Nintendo is a company that has never stopped progressing

Progress, yes.

So... how many more times will Mario be fighting Bowser? Link fighting Ganon[dorf]? Samus fighting Ridley?

 

[Zeriah]

Unsurprising as doing so would bury their console and any future consoles they decide to make. Who on earth would buy a Wii/Wii U if they could get all the Nintendo exclusives for other consoles?

 

[WeepingAngels]

Angry Snip.

I said the console was doing bad, which you agreed to. I never said the company was doing bad.

Snip.

"Winners" of console wars are determined by units shipped, not necessarily how much money was made. If you ship more units, the game library will make up for any losses the console itself made. If you failed to sell your console, you "lost" that generation's war.

But it's like I told Segaposto: I've got nothing against Nintendo. I just wish I didn't have to buy one of their sub-quality consoles to play their games. Well, I guess calling their console "sub-quality" is having something against them...but the facts are the facts: the hardware of the WiiU just isn't that great.

Well, based on the number of consoles sold, someone should be calling for either Sony or Microsoft to shop out their exclusives this gen. Have you heard of that happening?

Look, I didn't intend on starting a fight over this, and I don't have the energy (or care, really) to go on with it. So besides the point that the PS3 and 360 sold plenty enough consoles to merit their existence, I'll close out my part of this conversation by simply saying that I don't like the concept of exclusives in the first place. I think all games should be out on all consoles, as I believe that would lead to true innovation in console technology in order to make your console stand out from the rest rather than the only difference being what games are in the libraries.

So there, you've now officially heard one person call for Sony and Microsoft to shop out their exclusives.

Seems like that would lead to all consoles being the same and would eventually lead to only the top selling console releasing a next gen system. Anyway, let's agree to disagree.

 

[DataSnake]

Snip.

Why not ask Sony and Microsoft that? They've been in the red for their consoles most of said consoles' lifetimes.

They also have lots of third party support, which means lots of other companies paying them licensing fees. Third party support for the Wii U could be charitably described as mediocre, and charging themselves licensing fees won't really solve anything.

They should stop making consoles as well and just put their games on the other consoles as well. Wait, if they do that, then there would be no consoles. So Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft should develop for PCs then, right? That way they only have one platform to make their games and then they can develop said games in dedication

That would be infinitely preferable to the current model where some games are exclusive to one console and some to another. To give you a concrete example, if Halo 3 and Bayonetta had come out on PC, I'd have bought both. However, rather than shell out $60 each , I'd have also had to spring for a 360, a PS3, and a TV, and rearrange everything so there was enough room for all that new hardware, and neither game looked to be worth that much trouble.

not having to worry about the fact that the PC market is fraught with its own perils akin to the console market, right?

I'm not sure what you mean by that, can you elaborate?

 

[Charli]

Where did this nonsense start? Why do people expect Nintendo to make games for competing consoles? Is anyone suggesting that Microsoft put Halo on the PS3/4 or the Wii U?

The XBone hasn't had a chance to fail yet. Just wait till it's extremely lack-luster release (at least all signs are pointing to a lack-luster release) and you never know, there just might be calls to shop out some of it's exclusives to Sony and/or Nintendo.

There were no calls for Sony (who was losing most of this gen) to shop out their exclusives.

Because they weren't losing nearly as bad as Nintendo currently is, who is currently selling their console at a loss in order to make it more appealing. The PS3 wasn't nearly as big of a dud as the WiiU has turned out to be, or as big of a dud as the XBone is turning out to be.

Then again, as I just got done agreeing with someone in my previous post: there does seem to be a lot of anti-Nintendo sentiment around this website, so that could be where these calls for Nintendo to sell-out are coming from.

I'm sorry, how is Nintendo doing bad? Yeah, their console launch is horrible but THEY'RE STILL POSTING A PROFIT! They have $6 BILLION dollars in the bank! Not stock. Bank! Why are people screaming that this company is on its dying throes? If Nintendo is dying then Sony and Microsoft are bleached bones in the sand. Like, there is a lot wrong with the Wii U launch line up but can we please just stop with the nonsense!

EDIT: This statement shouldn't be directed at this person, but it is a more general shout at this stupid statement that Nintendo dying. I apologize to this person for quoting him.

Yeah I was scrolling down until I found this but...Jeezus Christ Nintendo have pulled themselves out of worse positions surviving on their fanatical core fanbase and the fans of said franchises alone. They'd have to be mad to hand out their golden eggs this early just because of a slow start. All it takes is one lucrative angle or their competitors to trip up to put them back ontop of a very very close three man race. Where even the 3rd place competitor is still doing embarrassingly well.

 

[Roxor]

Okay, so they don't want to put their games on other consoles. Fair enough. What about the PC? Any chance of a Nintendo counterpart to Steam to let you emulate all the old games for Nintendo's past systems?

 

[Adon Cabre]

Where did this nonsense start? Why do people expect Nintendo to make games for competing consoles? Is anyone suggesting that Microsoft put Halo on the PS3/4 or the Wii U?

Because Nintendo's 2 major exclusive franchises, and which come every few years, are the only ones that sell into the 10's of millions -- it's not enough, and its why they jumped ship with the Wii.

Microsoft and SONY have Third Party Support. Nintendo Wii U does not, at all. Just look at their sales figures for Assassin's Creed III and Call of Duty, which were marketed for the Wii U -- abysmal numbers. How they conceived a Wii U launch without a franchise title attached is beyond my understanding.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Agreed, sometimes I wish there was a law against this crap, they are literally holding games hostage and being anti consumer about it. Pah! Just means that I wont be getting another Halo for a very long time if ever, not that I'll lose sleep over it as 4 seems to indicate the quality is going downhill anyway. Unfortunate though.

Oh please, come on.

If a company making their games for only the console that their company made is anti-consumer, then we are venturing in really bizarre and just plain untrue territory.

This is going into territory that would make ignorant people start saying that companies wanting money for the things they produce is anti-consumer.

Really, has the world really come to the point where people think that they shouldn't have to pay for anything, that they shouldn't have to work for anything, and they should be given anything they want, when they want it.

Businesses are about making profit. There is nothing wrong with that. You don't get something for nothing. That is not how the world works.

If I take my time to make something to and someone wants it, I should be compensated for the work that I did.

Microsoft and Sony are Nintendo's competition. Microsoft and Sony would never release their game on a competitor's platform. Nintendo doing so would be financial suicide. They might gain a bit of brief extra income, but then that wouldn't matter. Why would people buy Nintendo's console if they could get Nintendo's games on the console the already own.

And besides, as it has been said, Nintendo isn't failing. They are still making money and are in the black. Yeah, they are selling fewer Wii Us than they intended, and they are now having to sell them at a loss, but with the profits from their other property sectors, they are easily taking that lose and still making profit.

 

[EvilRoy]

On one hand I have zero doubt that Nintendo will survive as they have in the past. On the other hand, I find myself wondering if they aren't painting themselves into a corner here. With fewer and fewer companies providing 3rd party support to the Wii U, should the trend continue, Nintendo may end up being the proud manufacturer of a solid handheld, and a peripheral that plays Nintendo games on your television.

Luckily the peripheral is standalone so one can use it with either their playstation or xbox, but the price makes it hard to justify.

 

[RA92]

So where are all the people calling for Uncharted 3D (LOL, the 3DS would choke) since the Vita is doing poorly too?

Well...it's not the 3DS but...

Spoiler

will be coming to phone markets everywhere...

At first I was laughing at your brilliant satire.

Then I went to Google and found out this was a thing... my God...

You kill off Studio Liverpool and give us this shit?

 

[MrHide-Patten]

I can see why they would hold onto their Franchises because without them, why would anyone buy a Wii-U? Seriously, why?

 

[klaynexas3]

I'm sorry, how is Nintendo doing bad? Yeah, their console launch is horrible but THEY'RE STILL POSTING A PROFIT! They have $6 BILLION dollars in the bank! Not stock. Bank! Why are people screaming that this company is on its dying throes? If Nintendo is dying then Sony and Microsoft are bleached bones in the sand. Like, there is a lot wrong with the Wii U launch line up but can we please just stop with the nonsense!

Yeah, especially since MS didn't post a single profit from their gaming division until EXTREMELY recently (if even that) and Sony burnt all the money it made with the PS1 and 2 due to the PS3's manifold mistakes. It's amazing at how badly those two can screw up and yet THEY'RE giving an infinite number of continues.

Have you seen the Xbone hate? Or the Sony hate for that matter? People don't tell these companies to go multi-platform because they don't care about the games they make. I like the first party games they put out(well, at least Sony), but they hardly have large first party development teams making any long lasting brands worth making multi-platform. They might have great exclusives, but chances are, most of those exclusives that are great are not under the direct control of either major company. Nintendo, however, has most of the games on their console be first party games under their direct control. They have a vast collection of IP that other people would love to see, but don't see them as whole console movers, and Nintendo, as of late, has lacked a great amount of third party support to grant their main consoles(not portable, though I assume most people forget about those), and so most people don't care the shell out money for another console just for the Nintendo games, however great their library output may be.

If that seemed like a jumbled mess and a mouthful, that's because it was a lot to get out. All in all, I'm not saying Nintendo should do it, I'm just saying why people would think they should do it over Sony/Microsoft. They like Sony/Microsoft's consoles, but Nintendo really does have the best first party support out there, and so they wish that they could see those great games on the great consoles that they greatly love. In all greatness. They don't care about Sony/Microsoft first party games.