Guy should just download a crack. (HEY GUY IF YOU SEE THIS DOWNLOAD A CRACK)
He bought it, he has every fucking right to play it.
He bought it, he has every fucking right to play it.
No Dragon Age 2 for Suspended BioWare Forumite - UPDATED
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I still support EA and Bioware, sure it is extreme, but the lack of evidence that the comment were in those exact words (ban victims tend to lack in the details when they fight their ban). Also if he digitally downloaded the game why didn't he install and activate when he got it, that way he could have avoided the entire mess.
Also it is only a 72 hour ban if I read right, so he can't play the game for a few days. I was going to have to wait until next week (pay day) to pick up my pre-order (but then I won $30 on a scratch off so I didn't have to wait). Think of it as delayed gratification.
No sympathy on my part (well maybe a tiny bit)
EDIT:
I do not mean for my comments to seem like "haha you got banned" I mean more in the terms play by the rules and don't do/say anything dumb and you will be fine. Jackass comments always have the chance for punishment in the future (think before you type)
Also it is only a 72 hour ban if I read right, so he can't play the game for a few days. I was going to have to wait until next week (pay day) to pick up my pre-order (but then I won $30 on a scratch off so I didn't have to wait). Think of it as delayed gratification.
No sympathy on my part (well maybe a tiny bit)
EDIT:
I do not mean for my comments to seem like "haha you got banned" I mean more in the terms play by the rules and don't do/say anything dumb and you will be fine. Jackass comments always have the chance for punishment in the future (think before you type)
This hits rather close to home, actually. I bought the expansion to Red Alert 3, "Uprising", straight from EA's store. But because I had removed the download (assuming it was just going to take up wasted space), it wouldn't let me download it ever again. So when I got a new computer, you can bet your ass I was pissed off that I couldn't play the game I'd already bought.
What the hell is wrong with EA? Seriously, what the hell?
What the hell is wrong with EA? Seriously, what the hell?
I feel like boycotting them now. Both Bioware and EA. I don't care, this is unacceptable, and I will not accept it, for it is unacceptable.
I'm a bit confused as to all of these "SUE EA!" comments. His case would never, ever hold up in court. Why? Because he broke rules that are clearly defined in the EA Terms of Service. That would be like me complaining that my school sent me home for wearing jeans and a t-shirt to class when the rules stated everyone had to wear a uniform.
Is the 72 hour ban a bit draconian? Well, yes. Are they in the right to do as they wish to someone on their forums? Absolutely. This wouldn't even be an issue if he had installed prior to his post. Their DRM is clearly a faulty system, but it is their decision to use it.
No one is making anyone buy EA games. You agree to their rules once you do. Freedom of speech is irrelevant in a private institution.
Is the 72 hour ban a bit draconian? Well, yes. Are they in the right to do as they wish to someone on their forums? Absolutely. This wouldn't even be an issue if he had installed prior to his post. Their DRM is clearly a faulty system, but it is their decision to use it.
No one is making anyone buy EA games. You agree to their rules once you do. Freedom of speech is irrelevant in a private institution.
Sure it is extreme, but it proves the point of think before you act. On a forum connected to EA's system (a system that controls your gaming account), you should think about ALL possible repercussions about what you post. Not thinking about the possible outcome that he would be unable to activate his game due to his account being temporarily shut down is poor judgment.Garak73 said:
As for not getting the code. If he wanted the game to be ready, call customer support give your information, get the code. 10-20 minutes taken, but the ability to install and to possibly have avoided this unplayable game mess.
I firmly believe that EA is not in the wrong.
(AGAIN not trying to be a jerk with these comments, I am trying to relay what I was taught to be common sense, and put my opinion into the pot to contribute to this discussion. Not trying to be a hater)
I usually buy every new game that comes out for my systems, however i think i might just check ea off my list. it would be something else if he insulted another forum member or said something racist, blah blah blah, but bashing the company?! That is like getting a ban for giving an EA game a bad review or rating on thier forums.
I understand the forum ban. they can make whatever rules they want, but crossing it over into you can't play your game that you paid for being an idiot on the forums seems in itself idiotic.
I understand the forum ban. they can make whatever rules they want, but crossing it over into you can't play your game that you paid for being an idiot on the forums seems in itself idiotic.
I said this in the thread before this, but I guess the discussion has moved here.
I place the blame much more on EA here than on BioWare. As the BioWare rep said, they basically have no choice but to use EA's crappy (and legally questionable) forum rules.
My respect for EA goes down a lot here, but I'm definitely not pointing any fingers at BioWare.
On another note, though, can't this guy just make a new EA account and activate the game on there? It's not like DA2 has any multiplayer, so I don't really see the downside of playing it on a different account.
I place the blame much more on EA here than on BioWare. As the BioWare rep said, they basically have no choice but to use EA's crappy (and legally questionable) forum rules.
My respect for EA goes down a lot here, but I'm definitely not pointing any fingers at BioWare.
On another note, though, can't this guy just make a new EA account and activate the game on there? It's not like DA2 has any multiplayer, so I don't really see the downside of playing it on a different account.
What an absolutely ludicrous system - that this is even possible is truly a failure that somebody somewhere really ought to be held accountable for, because there is just no sound business case for allowing it to happen.
Think of what Dragon Age II is for a moment - a single player RPG, albeit one that links to a social/EA account to determine unlocks, dangle DLC in front of you (at some point or right now depending on whether you have the Signature Edition or not), or upload your "in game accomplishments" so uninterested strangers can (probably not) gawk at them on said social site.
Now ask yourself - is there any situation imaginable where not allowing paying customers to play that game would benefit either the company's bottom line (via word of mouth reputation) or the experience of other Dragon Age 2 players? If you didn't just think "No, of course not, that would be stupid", then I'm afraid you are insane (my condolences). Obviously there is no benefit from preventing abrasive jerks playing a single-player game - it's not like they can replicate their behavior in-game and drive off other customers, now can they? The only possible outcome of a forum suspension/ban equating to a lockout is bad publicity.
In other words, this is completely retarded - maybe it made sense to somebody at EA to link forum conduct with your ability to play the damn games you buy from them, but they were obviously thinking of multi-player titles with persistent online communities at the time if they were ever not crazy assholes with the business sense God gave goldfish. Doing that sort of thing, while quite polarizing and doubtless bound to generate some negative word of mouth, might still benefit you because the community playing that game appreciates not having jerks around. But nobody cares if I play Dragon Age 2 or not, it's a single-player game; ban me from getting access to a legally purchased copy of the game because of conduct on a forum though?
Yeah, now everyone who reads that story hates you - this is not a beneficial business condition at all. Way to think things through jackass who made that stupid, stupid decision, you should be proud of yourself. Oh wait, no you shouldn't, because you've created a system that can only ever make you look bad while also reducing the potential for future revenues; there is a reason shopkeepers do not traditionally verbally abuse and then proceed to pistol whip their customers - most of them probably don't like that and wouldn't come back (unless that's your business model, in which case your weird clientele would be cool with it), you might get sued, and it's just so much more trouble than the satisfaction you derive from being a jerk is really worth.
As satisfying as it is to stomp on somebody else for your own amusement, businesses have a very simple goal - making money. This can't possibly help with that, ergo somebody really should be out of a job for allowing this ridiculous scenario to even play out in the first place - your company would be better off without whoever thought this was a good idea.
Think of what Dragon Age II is for a moment - a single player RPG, albeit one that links to a social/EA account to determine unlocks, dangle DLC in front of you (at some point or right now depending on whether you have the Signature Edition or not), or upload your "in game accomplishments" so uninterested strangers can (probably not) gawk at them on said social site.
Now ask yourself - is there any situation imaginable where not allowing paying customers to play that game would benefit either the company's bottom line (via word of mouth reputation) or the experience of other Dragon Age 2 players? If you didn't just think "No, of course not, that would be stupid", then I'm afraid you are insane (my condolences). Obviously there is no benefit from preventing abrasive jerks playing a single-player game - it's not like they can replicate their behavior in-game and drive off other customers, now can they? The only possible outcome of a forum suspension/ban equating to a lockout is bad publicity.
In other words, this is completely retarded - maybe it made sense to somebody at EA to link forum conduct with your ability to play the damn games you buy from them, but they were obviously thinking of multi-player titles with persistent online communities at the time if they were ever not crazy assholes with the business sense God gave goldfish. Doing that sort of thing, while quite polarizing and doubtless bound to generate some negative word of mouth, might still benefit you because the community playing that game appreciates not having jerks around. But nobody cares if I play Dragon Age 2 or not, it's a single-player game; ban me from getting access to a legally purchased copy of the game because of conduct on a forum though?
Yeah, now everyone who reads that story hates you - this is not a beneficial business condition at all. Way to think things through jackass who made that stupid, stupid decision, you should be proud of yourself. Oh wait, no you shouldn't, because you've created a system that can only ever make you look bad while also reducing the potential for future revenues; there is a reason shopkeepers do not traditionally verbally abuse and then proceed to pistol whip their customers - most of them probably don't like that and wouldn't come back (unless that's your business model, in which case your weird clientele would be cool with it), you might get sued, and it's just so much more trouble than the satisfaction you derive from being a jerk is really worth.
As satisfying as it is to stomp on somebody else for your own amusement, businesses have a very simple goal - making money. This can't possibly help with that, ergo somebody really should be out of a job for allowing this ridiculous scenario to even play out in the first place - your company would be better off without whoever thought this was a good idea.
I read this last night on a diffrent topic but what I have to say is the same This is bullshit and Respect is lost from Bioware and EA well it duesnt have any