No Right Answer: Worst Reboot Ever
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Burton's Planet of the Apes could have been good, all it needed was Johnny Depp in a stupid hat.
With Regards to Tim Burton and franchises... I think he did alright with the two Batman movies he helmed.
I mean Hollywood has had something of a patchy record with Batman movies, Schumacher's two embraced the camp angle, which is good for anyone interested in that aspect, not so good for those not, and Nolan's Batman movies kinda started losing steam and limping the longer they went on.
And hell, all of them have had occasional script issues to a greater or lesser extent, the odd plot hole or head-scratching moment.
I mean Hollywood has had something of a patchy record with Batman movies, Schumacher's two embraced the camp angle, which is good for anyone interested in that aspect, not so good for those not, and Nolan's Batman movies kinda started losing steam and limping the longer they went on.
And hell, all of them have had occasional script issues to a greater or lesser extent, the odd plot hole or head-scratching moment.
Congrats, Chris!!
Speaking as a father of an almost 6 month old, there is nothing else like it (both good and bad). It will change your world forever, as I'm sure Dan could tell you. Best of luck to you.
Speaking as a father of an almost 6 month old, there is nothing else like it (both good and bad). It will change your world forever, as I'm sure Dan could tell you. Best of luck to you.
For a second there, I was expecting Bob to butt in and take over on the anti-Man-of-Steel hate. Good thing Burton's Planet of the Apes won (if you call that winning). For my money, one lousy reboot was Aliens vs. Predator. That one messed up 2 franchises for the price of one!
I hated both reboots, but definitely hated Planet of the Apees mroe. It's so bad I actually did only see it once and forgot it existed to the point that I thought this was about Rise with Franco, which confused me because that one was actually pretty good.
*flips table*
*leaves room*
I couldn't agree more. Honestly thought the rewrite of a lot of the original movie's most iconic moments crosses the line into parody well before they "catch" Khan. Hell, the movie's opening has Spock paradoxically speaking out about not violating the Prime Directive while violating the pri-canadamus_prime said:
*flips table*
*leaves room*
"Man of Steel 2 directed by Tim Burton!"
I'd watch that for a dollar!!
OT: I was never on board with reboots to begin with... and, so far, only Rise has been the only "reboot" that was worth watching in the theaters, based on my theater-viewing years...
I'd watch that for a dollar!!
OT: I was never on board with reboots to begin with... and, so far, only Rise has been the only "reboot" that was worth watching in the theaters, based on my theater-viewing years...
Of the two, Planet of the Apes suffered from heavy handed nonsense, like when the evil general ape borrowed a Barry Goldwater quote out of context, Yet, it had this weird aesthetic that made it fun to watch as long as you didn't make yourself listen to it.
Man of Steel's problems begin and end with WB trying to recreate the same money printing machine which was The Dark Knight by tacking on the same gloomy sensibilities onto Superman.
However, Robocop sucks Roboballs. The whole movie hinges on, and falls apart, by not having Murphy die and be resurrected as a machine. Then he spends a big chunk of the movie with him not being Robocop and not doing Robocop stuff. I didn't think the movie could meet what I wanted from a reboot, but it was just sooooo boooooriiiing!!
Man of Steel's problems begin and end with WB trying to recreate the same money printing machine which was The Dark Knight by tacking on the same gloomy sensibilities onto Superman.
However, Robocop sucks Roboballs. The whole movie hinges on, and falls apart, by not having Murphy die and be resurrected as a machine. Then he spends a big chunk of the movie with him not being Robocop and not doing Robocop stuff. I didn't think the movie could meet what I wanted from a reboot, but it was just sooooo boooooriiiing!!
Of course I meant the entire J.J. Abrams Star Trek reboot universe not just Into Darkness, but yeah that was pretty bad. I mean should I go over all the things about the first one that didn't make sense? Starting with Red Matter, a plot device that presumably was pulled out of somebody's ass, Abrams' I'm guessing.Icehearted said:
If you're going to go the route of cartoon reboots, even though it wasn't technically a reboot Season 3 of Gargoyles sure as hell felt like one. A bad one. One so bad I've edited it out of my memory except that it is a thing that exists somewhere in the netherworld of TV-land. Or how when Doug's production company was bought by Disney and put on ABC it wasn't even close to what made that cartoon fun. That and Billy West decided not to return which we all know Billy "Phillip J. Fry" West is awesome and NOT having him return is bad for business.rayen020 said:
Chris actually brought up a good point that I never thought of before about Superman. Although I don't like either movie they talked about in the video, part of what failed with Superman is that they couldn't come up with a competent sequel without putting Batman in it.
Do they have no faith that a sequel will do well after the first one without putting Batman in it?
Granted, this is DC and, well, it's DC. So who knows?
Do they have no faith that a sequel will do well after the first one without putting Batman in it?
Granted, this is DC and, well, it's DC. So who knows?
Between the two, I'd have to go with POTA. I'm not FOND of MOS, but it was still...Ugh....Better.
However, The Star Trek reboots have probably given the franchise the shot in the arm it needs to return to regular rotation, so I'd say it's pretty much the opposite of the criteria they set out.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go was the taste of defending MOS out of my mouth.
Even though it was more like the source material and did the opposite of stopping the franchise in its tracks?SilverUchiha said:
Or, and I'm just speculating here, they've read a Spider-Man comic in the main universe in the last....30 years.Mr. Omega said:
You know what I hated most of all, honestly?Newhouse said:
Oh my God, they couldn't make up their freaking minds! Did they want to remake Star Trek 2 or not? They seemed simultaneously to be afraid to remake WOK and afraid not to make WOK. A lot of the playing with expectations only work if you're a Trek fan, and if you are, it's probably going to play out as inferior. And I thought Kirk was still going to have that learning moment, but nooooooooooo!
However, The Star Trek reboots have probably given the franchise the shot in the arm it needs to return to regular rotation, so I'd say it's pretty much the opposite of the criteria they set out.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go was the taste of defending MOS out of my mouth.
This has been a speculation point since the announcement, so I'm surprised you haven't heard it before.Waaghpowa said:
However, keep in mind that this idea had been promoted before the new Superman. In fact, the idea had been floated surrounding the Superman Returns continuity. They even teased it with a similar icon deal as the current one.
I think I'm one of the few hardcore fans of the original Planet of the Apes series who doesn't really mind the 2001 "re-imagining". It was bad yeah (Even Marky Mark thought so. [http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Mark-Wahlberg-Discusses-Why-His-Planet-Apes-Movie-Didn-t-Work-28577.html]) but I didn't find it personally offensive. At least they tried something different rather than attempting to outdo the original at its own game, because that was never going to happen. And hey, the make up looks great.
I absolutely agree that they should stop giving reboots to Burton. It feels like he ran out of ideas 15 years ago and is increasingly just taking the piss.
Not sure what the worst remake/reboot etc. is. But I know Rob Zombie's Halloween couldn't possibly have missed the point and appeal of Micheal Myers any harder. So I guess I'll go with that until someone inevitably remakes A Clockwork Orange in the mold of Twilight or something..
I absolutely agree that they should stop giving reboots to Burton. It feels like he ran out of ideas 15 years ago and is increasingly just taking the piss.
Also Batman Returns was bad, go back and watch it. It's just... bad.
Not sure what the worst remake/reboot etc. is. But I know Rob Zombie's Halloween couldn't possibly have missed the point and appeal of Micheal Myers any harder. So I guess I'll go with that until someone inevitably remakes A Clockwork Orange in the mold of Twilight or something..