No skirts with Kinect?

[Cinnamonfloss]

Lol can you imagine if Microsoft made a whole clothing line for this?
I don't care about kinect. I'm having fun with mr much cheaper wiu, thanks
I say that because buying a wii would be cheaper than getting an xbox, kinect AND suitable clothing to play it

 

[Ironic Pirate]

Firstly, it's an amazing piece of technology regardless of it's limitations.

Secondly, to all the people bitching because they like wearing baggy clothes or because they think Kinect is a gimmick, grow up. Seriously. If you don't want to buy it. Fine. But don't exaggerate it's weaknesses into something of epic proportions. These are the same people that complained when someone said the Earth was round or the kind of person who claims "A witch did it, let's burn her!" If you stand in the way of the progress of humanity then seriously, go die in a hole. This is nothing to complain about in the scheme of things.

So, regardless of it's limitations, we should always embrace new technology? Even when it's this awful?

Because really, our bitching about it, and the bitching of the whole internet, is what makes them fix it. That means we all get better stuff, often for cheaper.

You see, the world runs on people bitching about things.

 

[Treblaine]

Spoiler

M.C. Hammer's Kinect is going to have a techno-hernia.

FEEUUUKIN' NINJAAAAAAHHH

NM... probably too off topic.

Microsoft simply aren't that great a innovators, yes they CAN innovate, but it just comes across as half baked. Really, they innovations doesn't seem to come from the top to become part of a cohesive strategy, rather in part. Look at Nintendo's strategy, not just innovative peripherals but a very effective blue-ocean strategy of disruption of established demographics.

 

[squid5580]

Just like Twister the only proper way to play it is naked.

 

[imnot]

People will have to dress up to play video games.

Or get naked.

Unless it also gets confused by my wang, it wouldn't be the first machine that has been.

and the first time ?

 

[Void(null)]

Normally I do not stoop to making demotivators, but this thread and good ol' Microsoft truly inspired me.

Way to go Microsoft, once again you prove just who exactly your target demographic really is.

 

[Jewrean]

standing up is constantly breaking the suspension of disbelief.

It's already been confirmed that you DON'T need to be standing up to use this.

Besides, bitching can be good. Bitching lets people know what's wrong with the thing they've made, and if they're good, they'll weed the good bitching from the bad and improve their product accordingly. If nobody bitched, we'd be stuck with a bunch of low grade crap.

That's why they beta test their product extensively and pay companies and people to do it professionally. They have already thought about every single point you could possibly raise and all the other people too. You don't think they knew wearing black or whatever was a bad thing? Of course they know about it. There is no point complaining to them if they already know.

it's a first step that actively obstructs other technologies and ideas. The only way that Microsoft can realistically make money on this is by making it mandatory for games they know are going to sell well.

By the same logic I could say that the Wii obstructs other technologies and ideas too when in-fact it gave rise to many. I'm sure there were plenty of people complaining about it back then in a similar way. Unless you can accurately see what the future holds then your judgement is little more than a fictional opinion.

Just because it's significant doesn't mean it's good.

This is true and it's why so many people claim to hate the Wii (ie: the hardcore crowd). It's popular for a reason though. I'm not a casual gamer, but the evolution of the future needs to start somewhere. If you want good story-telling then there's plenty of great books out there. If you want all those elements that make great games great then there's PLENTY of stuff out there to get your hands on. But if you stand in the way of the evolution of technology then technology will never go forward. YES many games will suck because of this, but it is still an important milestone nonetheless.

Well surely it doesn't matter if we ***** about it anyway then?

Good so why are you bitching about it?

so why worry?

Are you referring to me? Again, I'm reserving my judgement until I've tried it so there is no worrying or excitement to be had. Surely complaining about it is closer to worrying right?

but it won't have immersive games.

Damn right it probably won't, but development of new technology and tools is a necessary evil. You need to take the good with the bad. Gaming can't always be a Rainbow Road for you and your little Kart to enjoy. There's going to be bumps in the road. Each bump (whether positive or negative) will have an effect on the finishing line that eternally looms in the distance.

 

[Jewrean]

I don't see how this is going to better humanity in any way at all. And if you think Kinect is going to better humanity, you're the same kind of person who thought the LaserDisc was going to be the next big technological advancement. You understand that they could be spending this money on actual games instead of this camera.

You have just proven that you didn't understand my point. It's not about Kinect, it's about the big picture. You are living in the now and not looking to the future. This one piece of technology (regardless of it's power, technology, and popularity) will teach humanity how to develop better technologies and what to improve on. Every new CPU does the same. Every new type of networking cable, every new television, every new anything does the same. Just like the interest in a bank account, the wealth of knowledge accumulates. If you are complaining about it then you may as well be on every forum complaining about EVERY new piece of technology that has flaws.

Simple Example:
The vikings in the movie 'How to train your Dragon' were against what's his names inventions (regardless of how useful they were).

Kinect is focusing on games for young kids and fitness games.

Until you have seen the Kinects full library at the end of its full product cycle, your judgement at this stage only refers to the present, ergo is not a full description of the product.

The 3DS

Both 3DS and Kinect are great advancements in human technology. Both are positive things, software doesn't matter to me because there will always be GOOD games somewhere to find. Besides, the definition of a GOOD game may differ from person to person. The opinion of some 5 year old kid or some old granny playing Kinect is just as important as yours. All humans have the right play games no matter how experienced. If the market wants a certain type of game then who are we to stand in the way of progress?

rushing it out the door like this. Also, the price is way to high for its target audience.

Yes it's rushed, but at least this way they will be able to iron out the bugs much quicker when improving the technology in the future. Oh, and we are all used to new technology costing a lot of money. I remember when the original Xbox 1 cost $800 AU. Many were happy to pay it. Until the production of said product has become streamlined and value of the item has depreciated then of course it will be expensive. People still buy new cars no matter how much better they are compared to the previous model.

I don't see why we're wasting our time with this, and if it breaks even I'll be surprised.

Of course it will have issues. Every piece of technology does, what is an acceptable failure rate, 5% in one year of play? Less? More? The technology however is FAR from a waste of time.

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

Hm, something else wrong with the kinect. Seems to be going downhill a lot...

 

[Jewrean]

So, regardless of it's limitations, we should always embrace new technology? Even when it's this awful?

Because really, our bitching about it, and the bitching of the whole internet, is what makes them fix it. That means we all get better stuff, often for cheaper.

Beta-testers and companies test these things extensively. They are already aware of any issue you could raise and have addressed it as best they could given time and money constraints. By mass producing it they will also be able to see the efficiency of their production line and overall system design based on failure rates. Many companies do listen to the internet, many don't. But why list points to complain about when they are the ones that told you about the problem in the first place? They already realize it's an issue. If they are a good company then they will try and address it in the next piece of technology they release if it's even possible to address it. My advice? ***** about something they haven't already thought about.

 

[wrecker77]

I just cant wait till kinect thinks the couch is part of the player. And this will happen.

 

[Hileo20]

my little thought about the first post - kinect was meant for families and kids, not the obese gamer lol it should work for all, but that was a logic error lol

 

[Judgement101]

Go Mircosoft! Messing everything they work for up for no reason

 

[manythings]

YOu also can't play while sitting down. Since you will have to go through the motions of driving to play a driving game I invite any kinect enthusiasts to try the driving a car actions while standing up right.

you can play while sitting down BUT only if the game was made for it.

The way I read it the system couldn't get that your body parts are still there if you aren't fully upright. Something bizarre about joint recognition and bone shape (or whatever pretend thing they came up with).

 

[Ironic Pirate]

So, regardless of it's limitations, we should always embrace new technology? Even when it's this awful?

Because really, our bitching about it, and the bitching of the whole internet, is what makes them fix it. That means we all get better stuff, often for cheaper.

Beta-testers and companies test these things extensively. They are already aware of any issue you could raise and have addressed it as best they could given time and money constraints. By mass producing it they will also be able to see the efficiency of their production line and overall system design based on failure rates. Many companies do listen to the internet, many don't. But why list points to complain about when they are the ones that told you about the problem in the first place? They already realize it's an issue. If they are a good company then they will try and address it in the next piece of technology they release if it's even possible to address it. My advice? ***** about something they haven't already thought about.

Microsoft didn't tell us though. People from Techradar discovered it, then a website called Gamerzine did a story on it, then it was posted here. Microsoft, as far as we know, was not aware of the issue.

And what they haven't thought about is that the Wii doesn't sell because of the motion control, it sells because it's fairly cheap, and it's not marketed as a game console. The commercials all show people playing the Wii sports that comes with it, or established characters like Mario and Zelda, everyone loves them.

The commercials don't show off the awesome graphics, they're depicting it as a fun machine, something for parties.

That's really why Kinnect will fail. It's iffy technology marketed at people who will look at the price tag, shrug, and go buy a Wii. They don't research, they talk to their friends that have a Wii, they watch the commercials, and they look at the price.

 

[migo]

The Wii was laughed at when it came out but has become the best selling and most fun console imo on the market.
However the Kinect looks balls, it will flop hard, harder than the fat people from tiring themselves out trying to get it to register their joints through their flab.

The Wii was largely the best selling console based on price (less than $300) and the lack of viable competition at the time (360 broke down, PS3 literally had no games then).